For the shape shifter i'm still a little confused , does the effect of it becoming a creature last indefinitely or does it become that creature indefinitely.

Also i think that it should be changed to a may ability.

@SirNips:

Whenever a creature enters the battlefield, it becomes that creature indefinitely. However, it is still enchanted, so the next creature that enters the battlefield will trigger the ability again, changing it to the newly emerged creature. The rules on Unstable Shapeshifter may explain better than I can: http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=4740

Slash and Burn

Cost 3r 2g 5 converted

Destroy target land than you may search your library for a basic land and put it into play tapped.

Flow: 6r 3g (As you draw this card, you may reveal it and cast it for its flow cost.If you do destroy all lands your opponent controls and than you may search your library and put two lands into play under your control.

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Storm Cloud Elemental

Power / Toughness: 5/2

Cost 3r 3 converted

Haste

Trample

Flow: 3r, X (As you draw this card, you may reveal it and cast it for its flow cost. If you do, Storm Cloud Elemental gains +X/0 until the end of the turn.

At the end phase of your turn exile Storm Cloud Elemental.

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Lightning Spear

Cost 1r 1 converted

Discard 2 cards from your hand and deal 7 damage to target creature or player. An opponent damaged by lightning Spear may draw a card.

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Flow Giant

Power / Toughness: 3/4

Cost 3g 3 converted

Trample

When Flow Giant enters the battlefield you may search your library for a card that contains flow and reveal it than place it on top of you deck.

Entry 1:

Infested Oak

3RG

Creature -- Treefolk Mutant

0/6

Defender, Reach

Whenever damage is dealt to Infested Oak, put that many tokens into play. Treat these tokens as 1/1 red green Insect Mutants with Forestwalk and Mountainwalk.

Irindu Militia

2RG

instant

creatures you control gain +2/+2 until end of turn

if RR was spent to cast this spell, target creature gains first strike and intimidate until end of turn.

if GG was spent to cast this spell, target creature gains trample and lifelink until end of turn.

if UU was spent to cast this spell, target creature gains shroud and "if this creature deals combat damage to an opponent, draw two cards" until end of turn.

Molten Menagerie

2RR

Enchantment

Whenever you cast a creature spell for a flow cost, that creature gains haste, and molten menagerie deals two damage to target creature or player.

@SirNips - I thought about making it a may ability, but that would make it too OP. This way a player using it could get beat by smart plays by opponent

Verdant Chaos

Lightning Sphinx

Churning Terrain

Primal Drive

My four entries. I can post the text if you need to, just thought this looked cleaner.

@Dr. McMeen:

That's perfect, no need to type it all out again. However, if you make any edits before the deadline, let us know, just in case we've already transferred it onto our judging document.

Aunt Flow 2RR Creature- Human Wizard 2/2

Flow clots you pay cost RR more

When You pay a Flow cost Aunt Flow deals 3 damage to target creature or player.

"Hell hath no furry like a woman's scorn" -Aunt Flow

Play with the top card of your library revealed

If the top card of your library has Flow you may play it for its Flow cost. Do this only once per turn.

Multikicker - RR - For each time Wildfire was kicked Wildfire deals 1 damage to each creature and player.

Wildfire deals X damage divided among and number of creatures and/or players.

(The wording on this one seems a little off. I'm trying to add a sort of Pyroclasm ability to a fireball like spell)

2,Discard a card : If that card had Flow you may draw a card.

Any time You pay a Flow cost put a 0/1 plant tokens into play.

Flowstone Wurm 4RG Creature - Wurm 4/4 Trample R: Flowstone Wurm gets +1/+0 until end of turn. G: Flowstone Wurm gets +0/+1 until end of turn.

Demented Seer -- 1RR

Creature - Human Wizard

T, Deals one damage to target creature.

At the end of your turn, if you drew exactly one card this turn, flip Demented Seerer.

(Flip side)

Mareck, Mutated Mage

Legendary Creature - Mutant Wizard

Haste

T, Deal 2 damage to target creature or player and add U to your mana pool.

At the end of each opponents turn, if that opponent drew two or more cards that turn, flip Mareck, Mutated Mage.

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Mindful Approach -- 2GG

Enchantment

Flow 3U

Spells in your hand and library have Flow where the Flow cost in equal to 1 less that spells converted mana cost as long as Mindful Approach is on the battlefield.

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Five-Bladed Spear -- GR

Artifact - Equipment

Enchanted creature gains +2/+0 lifelink and first strike.

UU: Attach Five-Bladed Spear to target creature.

Equip 2

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Knowledgeable Awakening -- R/G R/G

Instant

Until end of turn, whenever you draw a card you may put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.

Blessing of Might 1RG

Enchantment

When ever an instant or sorcery you control deals damage to a player you may put X +1/+1 counters on target creature you control where X is the damage dealt.

Sorcery

Unstable Energy deals damage to each player and each creature that player controls equal to the number of permanents that can produce mana that they control.

Creature - Elemental

Haste, Trample

r: Rampaging Elemental gets +1/+0 until the end of turn

6/7

Gorz, Master of Beasts 3GGG

Legendary Creature - Beast

Shroud, Forest walk

Beasts you control get +1/+2 and cost 1 less to play.

When Gorz is sent to the graveyard from the battlefield you may put any number of beasts whose total converted mana cost is 6 or less from your hand into play.

4/4

Zylo has totally inspired me with his demented seer. well, Zylo and my dyslexia.

Cemented Deer

2RG

Creature -- Deer Golem Weird

2/5

First Strike, Defender

Whenever you take damage, Cemented Deer loses defender and gains "R: This creature gains +1/+0 until end of turn" and "G: this creature gains +1/+0 until end of turn." This effect lasts until the end of your next turn.

Latchvein Canopy

3G

Creature - Mutant Wall

Reach (This creature can block creatures with flying)

Deathtouch (Creatures dealt damage by this creature are destroyed)

If a creature dealt damage by Latchvein Canopy is put into a graveyard from play, you may put a +0/+1 counter on Latchvein Canopy.

The power and toughness is

1/4

Symbiotic Meltdown

4GR

Enchantment

During each player's upkeep, the creature with the highest power becomes a 0/1 Mutant token with no abilities. If two or more creatures share the highest power, they are all turned into 0/1 Mutant tokens.

When there are no non-Mutant creatures in play, sacrifice Symbiotic Meltdown. Destroy all creatures. They can't be regenerated.

Riverbreach Scout

1GG

Creature - Human

Flow 2GG

Islandwalk

Shroud (This creature can't be the target of spells or abilities)

If Riverbreach Scout was paid for it's flow cost, turn target land an opponent controls into an Island.

4/3

Expansive Terrain

2G

Sorcery

Flow 2RG

Search your library for two basic land cards. Put one into play untapped and the other into play tapped.

If Expansive Terrain was paid for it's flow cost, you may destroy target creature or land.

Dragonoid

3RR

Creature - Human Dragon

Flying

When Dragonoid enters the battlefield, you may choose a card from your hand with converted mana cost of 3 or less, and put it into play.

If you put a creature into play in this way, it gains haste and 'At end of turn, sacrifice this creature'

4/4

Irindu's Splendor

2G

Enchantment

Whenever you tap a land for mana, you may add one additional mana of that type to your mana pool. If you do, that land does not untap at your next untap step.

Fanged Mage

2RG

Creature - Beast Wizard

Flow RRGG: As you draw this card, you may reveal it and cast it for its flow cost. If you do, draw a card.

Tap: Fanged Mage deals 1 damage to target creature or player. You may untap target land you control.

Marksmanship

4RR

Enchantment

Creatures may attack other creatures directly. Creatures attacked in this way that can not block do not deal combat damage.

Sorry, Fanged Mage is a 2/2.

Instinct Invoker 1GR

Creature- Shapeshifter Shaman

Whenever you cast a card for its flow cost, all creatures you control get +1/+0 and gain haste until end of turn. 1/2

Enchantment

At the beginning of your upkeep, reveal the top card of your library. If the revealed card has the "flow" ability, search your library for a land card and put it into your hand. Shuffle your library.

Flow from the Forest 2G

Instant

Flow 3GG

Counter target blue spell. You gain 8 life.

If you played this for the Flow Cost, you then instead get an Emblem with "Counter target spell. This can be activated only when a blue spell is being cast." Also put out a 2/2 Green Mutant that says "When this card is removed from the field, its controller may put a card from his graveyard back on top of his library."

Enflamed Entity 2RG

Creature - Elemental 4/1

Haste Trample

If you paid 3 G mana for this card, you may search your library for two Mountain and put them into play.

If you paid 3 R mana for this card, this card gains "Pay 3 life. Put 2 1/1 counters on this card. You may only do this twice.

Legendary Enchantment

Indestructible

Pay 10 life when you cast this card. If you don't, you lose the game.

Whenever your opponents add mana to their mana pool, this card gains a counter.

Once there are 20 counters on this card, sacrifice it. Exile all lands on target player's field.

Elemental seed

• No casting cost -

Creature Elemental - 4/4

Elemental seed's color is red & Green

Haste

Discard this card : search your library for a mountain or forest card, put it into your hand, then shuffle your library.

Whenever Elemental seed is put into a graveyard from anywere, you may add R & G to your mana pool, if you do, reveal your hand and Elemental seed deals X damages to you where X is twice the number of land cards in your hand.

Flow : discard a forest, a mountain and an elemental creature.

The flow dragon

4(r)(r)

5/5 flyer

w/ (r/u) Flow Dragon gets +1/+0 until end of turn.

and flow cost of 4(u)(u)

Instant

1(r)(g) Swap target creature you control with a creature your opponent controls. Your new creature gains haste until end of turn. Opponent draws a card and may cast it as though it had a flow cost of 2.

Creatures with power 3 or less get +3/+3 until your next upkeep and gain trample and creatures with power 4 or greater get -3/ -3 until your next upkeep and gain haste.

ok scratch harness the flow... that entry didn't quite fit ... gonna go with

Elemental flow beast

1(r)(g)

3/2 elemental w/ reach and deathtouch

Burning Insight Blast 3RRR

Tribal Instant : Elemental

Target creature gain +4 +4, trample and double strike ans becomes an elemantal red creature in addition of it's other colors, types & subtypes until end of turn.

Flow : Sacrifice three land cards

Cunning form - 2GGG

Creature Shapeshifter (x / x)

Flash

When cunning form enters the battlefield exile target permanent;

Cunning form as power & toughness equal to that permanent casting cost.

When cunning form leaves the battlefield return that permanent from exile.

Flow : GG

If you play Cunning form for it's flow cost, Exile it at the begining of your next turn upkeep.

Cunning form (2) - 2GGG

Creature - Ooze Shapeshifter (0/0)

Flash

When cunning form enters the battlefield exile target permanent and put x +1+1 counter on Cunning form equal to that permanent casting cost. At the begining of your upkeep, remove a +1+1 counter from cunning form.

Whenever cunning form leaves the battlefield return that permanent from exile.

Flow : GG

If you play Cunning form for it's flow cost, Exile it at the begining of your next turn upkeep.

Forget submission number 30, the number 31 is an update

Burning soul madness 1R

Enchantment

At the beginning of your first main phase, you may choose to remove your hand from the game.

If you do, draw 12 cards, you may play any number of cards among them. Then, at the end of the last main phase of that turn, discard each card unplayed and burning soul madness deals 2 damage to you for each card discard this way.

Return your hand from exile afterward

Flow cost : 3RRR

If you have played burning soul madness for its flow cost, burning soul madness deals only 1 damage to you for each card you discard this way instead of 2.

Irindu Falls Huntmaster 2G (3)

Creature - Human Warrior

When Irindu Falls Huntmaster enters the battlefield, draw a card.

Whenever a spell is cast for its flow cost, Irindu Falls Huntmaster gains flash until end of turn.

2/2

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Quakespawn 2R (3)

Enchantment

Whenever a creature spell you control is cast for its flow cost, put a 3/2 red elemental creature token with haste onto the battlefield.

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Stoneslag, The Eldest Hate 4RR (6)

Legendary Creature - Dragon

Flying

UU: Until end of turn, target player can't draw cards.

1G (2): You may tap or untap two target lands. Activate this ability only once each turn.

"I don't wish to appear impolite, but shouldn't you have brought reinforcements?"

4/4

What was I thinking? I just reread Stoneslag's UU ability and realized it completely shuts down the game. Scratch that one.

Getting a little wordy, but this is more along the lines of what I was thinking.

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Stoneslag, The Eldest Hate 4RR (6)

Legendary Creature - Dragon

Flying

1U (2): Until end of turn, target player can't draw cards. Activate this ability only during that player's main phase.

1G (2): You may tap or untap two target lands. Activate this ability only once each turn.

I don't wish to appear impolite, but shouldn't you have brought reinforcements?

4/4

Fury Elemental

3RRR

Creature Type - elemental

Flow RRR

Trample, Haste

If you cast Fury elemntal with its flow cost, sacrifice it at end of turn.

6/6

My 4 Entries are as follows:

Dragonsoul

Instant

Cost: 1, 1R - 2 converted

Until end of turn, target creature loses all abilities and becomes a 5/5 red elemental dragon creature with flying and haste. Sacrifice it at end of turn.

(Im not sure if this card should be a rare or an uncommon, but I'm posting it anyway)

Land

If you cast Luscious Rise from your hand, sacrifice it unless you pay 1

Luscious Rise comes into play tapped

Flow: 1

[Tap]: add GR to your mana pool

(Since it's a land, i'm not sure if this counts. And i'm also unsure as to whether the flow cost should be 0 or 1, since on Irindu the flow causes a lot of crazy stuff to happen)

Sorcery

Cost: X, 1G - 1 converted

Sacrifice X lands, search your library for X lands and bring them into play tapped.

(and you are meant to be able to search for any lands, not just basic lands. Because on Irindu, nothing is basic. Although this may be incredibly over-powered, particularly in legacy)

Creature - Weird Shapeshifter

Cost: 2,2G,2R - 6 converted

P/T: 4/4

R: Fluctuant gets +1/+0 until end of turn

G: Fluctuant gains trample until end of turn

UU: Fluctuant gians shroud until end of turn

Meadow Dancer

1GG

Creature Type - Stag Mutant

Meadow Dancer cannot be countered.

When a spell is played with flow, Meadow Dancer gets +X/+X until end of turn, where X is the Flow Cost of that card.

1/1

From prey, to predator, to prey again.

Unstable Wall

Creature - Elemental Mutant

3R

Defender, first strike.

When CARDNAME enters the battlefield, if exactly G was spent to cast it, it gains deathtouch.

When CARDNAME enters the battlefield, if exactly U was spent to cast it, it gains either flying or shroud.

When CARDNAME enters the battlefield, if exactly UUG was spent to cast it, it gains deathtouch, flying, and shroud.

1/4

Can I just point out really quickly that the fact that Flow cantrips is REALLY broken at the moment? Unless all flow costs are increased by a LOT it's going to end up being bad. I'm sure it'd be fine if it didn't draw you a card, but as it stands... dunno. Maybe it's just me.

@ Dr. McMeen - I recall that the design team was worried about the possibility of flow being overpowered. But many argued that it would not be that powerful. We will not really know until playtesting. I am sure that as head of this project mistergreen527 will ensure that cards are playtested rigorously for these issues. If it turns out to be too strong or too weak I am sure that costs will be adjusted (a natural part of design). I know that the concern was also quashed to some extent because the plan is to not have a great deal of cards with the flow ability. This alone will limit abuse, especially by cards that may be effected by flow cost being paid.

A very good concern though and something for all the the card designers out there to keep in mind.

I agree with dr.-mcmeen, I mean the flow cost of cards should be at the very least the same as the CMC but people are making it less then the CMC which in and of itself is broken AND on top of that people are adding "If the flow cost was paid do this also" whcih makes it even more dumb because now they play the card for less, draw a card, AND get something bonus! People don't seem to realize the extent of what they're doing.

Update!

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Instinct Invoker 1GR

Creature- Shapeshifter Wizard

Whenever you cast a card for its flow cost, all creatures you control gain +2/+0 and first strike until end of turn.

1/2

Irindu Shaman 1RR

Creature- Human Shaman

UU Tap: Up to two target creatures gain either Flying or Shroud until end of turn.

GG Tap: Up to two target creatures gain either Trample or +1+1 until end of turn.

1/1

Flowing Quakes 2GR

creature-Elemental

first strike, trample, Haste

Flow GR

sacrifice Flowing Quakes at the begining of your upkeep

8/2

Uuiller do you realize how OP that is? It's 8 damage plus a draw for 2... I don't know if you meant for it to die after you play it for the flow cost but remember it goes untap, upkeep, draw so that creature will last two turns before it get's sacrificed.

Comment on luscious-rise from leon_raymond

What the ... ; Casting dual lands for 1 for it's flow cost & drawing card, that would so much overpowered.

would mean that you could play between 2 or 3 (if you play a card like [lotus petal] or a mox) lands on turn one and much more on turn two.

In my views "casting lands" goes against the very essence of MTG.

Also to expand on user:Zimongab, the conditional statement "If you cast it from your hand sacrifice it unless you pay 1," you would even be casting it from your hand, you'd be playing it. By definition you don't cast lands, the only way you would in this situation would be using Flow. I think you mean "If you play it from your hand."

Memory Theft 2RBG

sorcery

look at target players hand choose nonland a card, that player discards that card then you search each players library for each card with the same name. target creature gets +1/+1 for each card exiled this way

(for the record: 'cemented deer' was completely a joke. Here is my 4th entry.)

Quickroot Instant 1G Kicker: U Target Creature gains Defender and +0/+2 until end of turn. if Quickroot was kicked, return it to your hand as it resolves.

Flavor text:

"Sit. And stay."

@ Dr. McMeen: i agree fully - the only possible drawback is that you then commit to casting that card this turn as opposed to leaving mana open for whatever else. While in some decks (control, combo) this is a drawback, in others (aggro) they don't care, and would rather have the cantrip and just get damage through the red zone.

@quiller:' 1) Each submitted card can only contain red and/or green in its mana cost.

1) Just because you can't have blue in the mana cost, doesn't mean that it can't be part of an ability's cost, such as on Ceta Disciple . However, keep in mind that white and black are not found on Irindu."

post #49's card contains black in the casting cost. Just in case you missed it.

@landlot: but i LIKED Cemented Deer. :(

I suspect flow won't be as broken as it looks right now -- remember, these are the rares we're building. I don't see it getting to overpowered, though, really -- it hinders everyone, not just aggro decks; if you want the flow benefit, you have to cast it then, during your draw step -- having your turn that controlled by a mechanic limits your play options just as much as the extra card gives you more choices. at least, that's how it seems to me.

broken would be flow lands, with a 1 or 0 flow cost.

@sporkife re: cemented deer: thanks. I'm sure that the next set we develop as a group will be Irindu UNclogged, and he'll make a comeback.

or I could just change the name, I guess.

sustaining river

Enchantment

2GG (4 converted)

whenever you draw a card as a result of flow, you may put a 1/1 saproling creature token into play

when you cast a card for its flow cost, you may choose to put a +1/+1 counter on each saproling creature you control rather than draw a card

actually I think "river of sustenance" is a better title

Infested Oak

Molten Menagerie

Stonevigil Hart

Quickroot

Are my four official entries. I made some edits; please ignore my previously posted cards. Sorry about cluttering up the thread.

(stonevigil Hart used to be Cemented Deer, but the name got changed -- other rejected name: Hart Monitor. sigh )

pssst...it still says cemented deer in the text box. also i think the correct wording would be either "whenever you are dealt damage" or "whenever you are dealt damage for the first time each turn". It could also be s/dealt damage/lose life/.

good catch. thanks. should be fixed now.

Monk of Ul-Gura

1GG

Creature - Human Monk

When Monk of Ul-Gura comes into play, sacrifice all artifacts, enchantments and non-basic lands you control.

Players cannot cast spells using Flow

2/2

"The Flow is a Force not of nature, but of sorcery. Only by removing yourself from all that is unnatural, can you truly be free."

The Path of Freedom, the second teaching of Ul-Gura the Enlightened

Hmmmmm... The drawback on the monk may be a bit too harsh depending on how good/bad/playable flow is. I guess time will tell though.

@user:Zimongab my intent was that playing luscious rise for it's flow cost would count as playing a land, thereby not allowing you to play another one that turn. Although this is still remarkably overpowered since you get to draw another card. Let me change it to something maybe a little fairer.

The idea is that it's a tap land which can be "flowed" but if you do so, it still counts as playing a land that turn.

Luscious Rise

Land

Luscious Rise comes into play tapped

Flow: 1

[Tap]: add G or R to your mana pool

Is this a little less OP?

Respond to leon_raymond #60

May I remind you that the flow ability allows you "to cast" the permanent.

Flow: COST (As you draw this card, you may reveal it and cast it for its flow cost. If you do, draw a card.)

Moreover, If I read Lucsious Rise closely, I don't see what can prevent me from casting it after I played my first land card.

If it's being "cast" then it's a spell.

You should defenitively write something like "When Luscious Rise comes into play draw a card" rather than creating a flow casting cost on a land. You would got the effect you wish without any confusion.

oh i see what you mean. never mind then, i realise my mistake. Yes, it should probably let you draw a card when it enters play to solve any confusion that may occur. I just wanted the it to be coherent with the set by using flow, but i realise now that it wouldn't work. Thanks for pointing this out.

I made some changes to my 4 submissions. Consider these for the challenge :

fire-elemental-seed ;

Cunning Form ;

Irindu's Aerial Torrents ;

Ardent Insight Blast.

I know that some flow cost have a lower value than their casting cost. I don't think it goes again the spirit of this ability or that it breakdown the whole game. I think that the card are sitll balanced if you need to make sacrifice to play them or if their effect is a lot reduce.

Anyway I believe that the cost of a permanent is the easiest thing to discuss without changing a card concept.

Sorry leon_raymond

I've just red your last comment.

I was writing my answer while you were answering and I didn't refresh my webbrowser.

If I understand correctly the flow hability, you can't play a card for it's flow cost if it's already in your hand.

The ability can only trigger the first time you draw it and never after. Right?

Flow: COST (As you draw this card, you may reveal it and cast it for its flow cost. If you do, draw a card.)

If it's the case I don't see how these cards can be so overpowered.

In fact they are less powerfull than permanent with cascade like [Bituminous Blast].

... They are less powerfull than permanent with kicker cost like [Into The Roil] wich is an instant and allow you to draw a card for it's kicker cost.

If you got some [Thought storm]s in your opening hand, you will never be able to play them. (except if you return them on top of your library).

I've change the previous name "Burning Soul Madness" for irindu's-aerial-torrents .

Just to fit the set...

I'm sorry but 6 posts in a row is kinda of ridiculous and agitating when I get tons of emails about it when I could have gotten maybe one or two...

Hey Zylo why don't you unsubscribe from this discussion rather than posting one more anoying comment. If you have another low personal critic on the way I send my comments on this interesting thread you should send me a private message rather than making it a public event.

I apologize to the other users for breaking the thread, I'm a new user here, and it's my first participation in a challenge.

A low personal critic? Chill out dude, I was just suggesting you should try to not post so many times in a row, where do you get off thinking I'm attacking you? o.O

I'm chilling out; I think YOU sound kinda of RIDICULOUS and AGITATING, while you suggest i'm attaking you, I was just suggesting that you should unsubscribe if you don't want to receive those anoying emails that filled up your email account. ... Dude

Alright peeps, let's cool out and move on. I didn't sign up on this site to deal with flame wars. We're all above that. Let's just keep the ideas coming and keep everything else offline.

Sorry again guys, I was trying to make a silly point... Wathever

I think Zylo 's idea of introducing back the "fip" concept form the kamigawa's set for a mutant creature is pretty cool.

Demented Seer -- 1RR

Creature - Human Wizard

(Flip side)

Mareck, Mutated Mage

Legendary Creature - Mutant Wizard

But I was thinking that like Irindu, the flip side creature should be a lot more different and diversified hability ;

"The shard of Irindu is a place saturated in blue mana that has been spurred on by red mana and green mana to twist all aspects of life and wizardry. (...) The environment and creatures here are in a constant state of change. Something as simple as changing color would be considered mundane here. These unusually sudden evolutions could mean that one day you're hunting your prey and the next day that same prey is hunting you."

Maybe one side could be cast as a red spell and the other as a green or blue spell.

One side would deal damage, the other would make you gain life or draw cards (...)

So what do you think?

@landlot: :D

@leon_raymond: flow just doesn't work with lands, sorry. And a dual land with 187: draw a card, even if it has a "187: pay x or sac" clause, is either wickedly overpowered or epically weak - see Horizon Canopy for comparison.

re:flip stuff

Flip, though I think it could be interesting (kinda like Possessed Aven and kin, but reverting back to the other side?), would most likely be shot down by the design team because even though it's not a keyword it is really a mechanic and i don't think they want anything other than flow...i could be wrong though. Can't hurt to try.

Or, for more amusement, split cards!

Right. Well a flip card can only be cast once and as one color... You could be suggesting the flip side could "change" colors which could fit for Irindu, but I thought the idea that the flip becomes a legendary creature fit Irindu pretty well, and the fact that it can flip back to normal which is out of the ordinary (as far as I know there are no other flip cards that flip both sides, I'm probably wrong but that's as far as I know).

RE: flip cards

Yeah I think that flipping back and forth is a very cool idea, however the design team will shoot it down I am sure, unless they want to make it only one in the set as the story does indicate that creatures are transplants from other planes. Maybe one from Kamigawa got through.

I would not count on it though. Love the creative idea though

Thanks, I really hope they consider it, I mean the basis that it flips back and forth fits in perfectly with the setting of Irindu. Also, some interesting things could happen if you and your opponent both have one out. I just thought it was a cool idea so I hope they do too.

Uneven Flow - 2R (3)

Creature - Elemental

Flow 3R (As you draw this card, you may reveal it and cast it for its flow cost. If you do, draw a card.)

Whenever a player draws a card due to flow, Static Flow deals 2 damage to target opponent.

2/2

Creature - Beast

All cards cost 2 more when cast with flow.

4/4

Creature - Dragon

Flying

1U: Return target creature to the top of its owner's library. If it is the next card its owner draws, it has "Flow 1" until it is cast.

R/G: Target player shuffles his or her library.

5/5

Trample, Haste

RG: Exile all creatures. Return all creature cards in all graveyards to the battlefield under their owner's control. Then move all cards exiled by Lifeshifter into their owner's graveyard. You may activate this ability while Lifeshifter is in the graveyard.

5/5

Update

Kara, Flow Shifter

Instinct Invoker

Irindu Shaman

Lotus Evolution

I'm thinking this is the last time I will edit/add cards to this one, pretty happy with how they turned out.

Edit: Lifeshifter is a Creature of type Lifeshifter

Moss Covered Golem

Converted Mana Cost - 5

Creature - Golem

Moss Covered Golem comes into play with a +1/+1 counter on it for each green mana that was spent to play it.

Whenever a spell is played using flow, remove a +1/+1 counter form Moss Covered Golem.

0/0

I fear The Flow will be the end of me.

Obsessive Thought

RRR

Enchantment

R, Discard a card at random: deal 2 damage to target creature or player.

G, discard a card at random: search your library for two lands, reveal them, put one into your hand and one on top of your library.

U, discard a card at random: Draw a card.

SocialistElite, you've submitted 5 entries when the max is four, you might want to fix that.

@darksteelknight: um. about that Lifeshifter? Living Death is a nasty enough combo piece as it is...that card would be restricted in Vintage and banned in Legacy and Extended before it was even released if Wizards somehow managed to print something like that. I could build a deck in extended that would reliably have lethal damage in the red zone turn 4 with that without even trying hard. At best, it's "RG: put CARDNAME into play under your control. play this ability only if CARDNAME is in your graveyard". At worst, it's "RG: put CARDNAME, a Madrush Cyclops , a couple Darksteel Colossus , and an Emrakul, the Aeons Torn into play under your control]]" or something similarly broken. (those guys works since it's an instant-speed ability and you can respond to the shuffle trigger.) It's really quite broken. I like the idea (living death on a stick) but it needs a much greater drawback, and I think it's in the wrong colours.

@sporkife Edit:

Lifeshifter - 4RG (6)

Trample, Haste

If a creature would be put into the graveyard from anywhere other than the battlefield, instead exile that creature.

1RG: Each player exiles all creature cards from his or her graveyard, then sacrifices all creatures he or she controls, then puts all cards he or she exiled this way onto the battlefield. You may activate this ability while Lifeshifter is in the graveyard.

5/5

:D

that's a really simple fix. I like.

Calling of the Elements

2RRGG

Enchantment

Cards in your library have Flow X, where X is that cards converted mana cost.

Whenever you pay a flow cost, the flow cost of all cards is reduced by 1 until the end of turn (Flow cost can not be reduced to less than 1).

Exploding Earth

RG

Instant

Deal 3 damage to target creature.

Target creature gains +3/+3 until the end of the turn.

Re: #88 exarkun809

10 | ? | Zylo says...

3:55 p.m. on August 19, 2010

"... Mindful Approach -- 2GG

Enchantment

Flow 3U

Spells in your hand and library have Flow where the Flow cost in equal to 1 less that spells converted mana cost as long as Mindful Approach is on the battlefield. ..."

What you posted looks very similar to something I've already proposed. Maybe you already knew that and decided to make something a little different than mine, maybe you didn't see that. I'm just letting you know in case you didn't and might want to change your's.

@zylo: holy crap. How did i miss that!? Well, thanks a ton for saving me there. haha.

So Yeah, Ignore the Moss Covered Golem! Ill just save it for the artifacts ;)

Master of Irindu

3GG

Creature - Elemental Spirit

Untap all permanents you control during each other player's untap step. For each mountain and red permanent untapped this way, Master of Irindu deals 1 damage to target creature or player.

Tap: Scry X, where X is the number of islands and blue permanents untapped this turn.

At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice Master of Irindu unless you tap all lands you control.

2/3

@Zylo

Ha, too funny. I didn't see yours (so many submissions!). You can scratch that entry since it's no longer original :)

Although, mine is geared towards like a cascade of flow... (you pay 1 less then 2 less then 3 less). But similar ideas.

Irindu's Interdition

2RG

Instant

Pick one: Counter target white or black spell, untap up to 2 target lands.

or

Destroy target white or black permanent.

Stem

RG

Instant

Counter target spell that was paid with its flow cost.

what can I say - the world needs more counters.

Meliadoul, the Shattered Monolith

2RRG

Legendary Creature - Lavastone Golem

Flow 6U

If Meliadoul, the Shattered Monolith's flow cost was paid, it gains double strike and reach.

Whenever a creature is cast for its flow cost, you may either have Meliadoul, the Shattered Monolith deal 2 damage to target creature or player or have creatures you control gain +2/+2 until the end of turn.

4/6

@exarkun809 Lol, it's all good! I just figured you might have looked over mine because there are so many submissions. :)

Spellform Mutant

3RG

Creature - Mutant Wierd

UX : Exile target Spell where X is its CMC. Spellform Mutant gains X +1/+1 counters.

Remove all counters from Spellform Mutant : You may cast any of these exiled spells without paying their mana cost.

1/1

@ exarkun809 keep it in if you like your card. They are different. Maybe just a little different, but those are sometimes the differences that count

Oh, yeah, don't get me wrong exarkun809, if you wana keep your submission go right ahead and keep it, don't think I was telling you to get rid of it lol.

Respond to $mh?i? 's # 99 post ;

Your Spellform mutant submission looks a lot like my Cunning Form post previously...

mmmm...

remember subtlety matters people. Cancel and Counterspell look similar, but one will never get reprinted. So if a card looks like one you created they may still have a shot bacause one or the other may be OP.

...But I think yours is much more powerful it's like if you had a counter spell on play at all time. And you can play those spell for free. It can be a kind of spell & mana battery.

If you exile spell, stronger is the creature, it's kind of unfair...

And wath's the U in the activating cost? Colorless mana?

U is blue mana - seemed appropriate for the effect - maybe should be UX, Tap for the counter?

@$ªmHεiπ: yeah...tapping might be good for that ability, otherwise with an infinite mana combo it reads 'i win the game'

@squire1 : please please please tell me Cancel will never be reprinted. :P

I think if you added a tapping cost it would be way more fair.

The problem is that with this mechanic, if you can produce enough mana, wich is not so difficult to do in when you play in green you can prevent your opponent from playing until the end of the game. It's a pretty powerfull hability for a 5 CMC Rare.

On top of that you've got a creature that won't keep growing as long as you prevent the other player from casting spell... Like Forever...

Moreover, you can play one of those spell for free!

I think you should try to find a way to equilibrate that permanent... It could be tap when you exile a spell and I think It should remains tapped until you play the exile spell.

here some well balanced Rares and Uncomons that can counter spells

Spiketail Drake Daring Apprentice Ertai, the Corrupted Ertai, Wizard Adept Glen Elendra Archmage Grimoire Thief Hisoka, Minamo Sensei Lullmage Mentor Patron Wizard Stromgald Cabal Voidmage Prodigy

There's much more out there... But i'm shure you get the idea!

ok - Revision

3RG

Creature - Mutant Wierd

UX, tap : Exile target Spell where X is its CMC. Spellform Mutant gains X +1/+1 counters. Use this ability only if Spellform Mutant has no counters.

Remove all counters from Spellform Mutant : You may cast this exiled spell without paying its mana cost.

1/1

That's much better I think, but maybe you should consider making it a Wizard in addition of it's other types since it can exile and copy spells.

Still a realy powerfull creature thought.

You should precise when the ability can trigger like

Exile target Spell "As it's being cast" or exile target "permanent" (would mean a card on the battlefield at any time).

It's just a detail anyway.

@user:Zimongab: the proper template is "XU, T: Exile target spell with a converted mana cost of X. Put X +1/+1 counters on CARDNAME. Play this ability only if CARDNAME has no +1/+1 counters on it." I think.

balance-wise...it's a 1/1. any removal spell in the game can kill it while it still has summoning sickness.

I know it's a bit late, but I was working on this card before the competition started. I just updated the name and the creature type to suit the theme.

Rabid Woggler Swarm 2GR

Creature - Beast Mutant

Shroud, reach

During each player's end step, if 3 or more cards were drawn this turn, put a token into play thats a copy of this creature.

1/2

Well I only submitted 4 so count that one :)

I've made some changes to my fire-elemental-seed submission: I wrote a short chronicle in the comment section and used quotes from it as flavour text.

I took on the name "Kara, druid of earth guile" #4 Planeswalker from the list in a previous submission. tappedout-community-set-(voting-for-irindu's-planeswalker).

I thought that even If she's not part of the play set, Kara as been created by the community and should exist in Irindu's Tales... Even if she's not a planeswalker.

Update : I draw a sketch for my fire-elemental-seed submission.