Trading Advice
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Darkness1835
28 March 2010
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28 March 2010
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Trading
With the new set Rise of Eldrazi coming out, people will probably be scrambling all over to try and trade for various super-powered rares like Kozilek, Butcher of Truth, among others. Before you become one of those people, there are some things you need to know about trading.
Types of Trades
First of all, there are several types of trading. Theres what I like to call Need trading, and Greed trading. Need trading is where you trade X for Y, where Y is what you need to help complete a deck. Greed trading is where you trade X for Y, where Y is what you dont necessarily need at the moment, but could put in a deck later, or use for trade. Y could be anything from a playset of Lightning Bolts to a Black Lotus, but well get more into Power 9 later.
Now that we have Y defined, lets work on X. The variable X is what you have. Again, this can be divided up into two categories. You will either be trading cards you meticulously hoarded, or cards that you need, but is the only acceptable trade to the person with Y.
Be forewarned. Trading cards that you need may come back bite you later on. It may not be as easy to get as it once was, so consider these types of trades very carefully.
Prices
In the universe of Magic: The Gathering, each card has a price. DUH. But people Ive seen dont pay much attention to prices, and simply go card-for-a-card, or a-couple-cards-for-a-planeswalker. This is fine, if you like possibly not getting the most bang for your buck. In most cases, this is just a couple of dollars, but it can be worse. Back when M10 first came out, and all the Two-Color lands were sitting at about $13 or $14 each, my friend made bank. He traded his $6 Coat of Arms for a Sunpetal Grove.
In short, if youre going to trade without knowing prices, and least have a general idea; and if you dont, get a second opinion. Most guys out there at the Magic Shop wont try to tell you that Lorthos, the Tidemaker is just as valuable as Baneslayer Angel.
Power 9
Before I begin this topic, let me explain what the Power 9 are. Yeah, yeah, you all know what they are. Theyre Black Lotus, Mox Pearl, Mox Sapphire, Mox Jet, Mox Ruby, Mox Emerald, Ancestral Recall, Time Walk, and Timetwister. But they are more than just super rare cards that redefine the game. They are rule makers. Every trade ever made is relative to these guys. Nothing compares to them when talking about trade. Not Bazaar of Baghdad. Not Tarmogoyf.
So if you are in collecting mood, and decide to try and find someone to trade you one of these, these are various things you need to know. Assuming you have found someone, you need to know that the person with Power 9 makes the rules. He/she (regardless of what they want from you) will always direct the trade, and youd best say yes. (Unless of course they demand 4x Baneslayer Angel, 4x Elspeth, Knight-Errant, 4x Jace, the Mind Sculptor and 4 of every other expensive card out there.
Learn the value of each Power 9 card, or at least the one you are trying to get, and stick to it. Dont be dissuaded by the fact that theres a big shiny Black Lotus waiting for you.
For most trades, you will be trading them something which can easily be gotten back. There are plently Baneslayer Angels out there, compared to Mox Emerald.
In short, to get better trades, make sure you know card values, know what you can afford to lose, and make the best trade accordingly.
Hope this helped. Feel free to comment with your ideas about trading, and the best strategies to getting your favorite cards.
Until later.
Darkness. Out.
Best trade I ever made was at the Worldwake prerelease. I traded the foil Wrexial, the Risen Deep I pulled for a Jace Beleren and a Dragonmaster Outcast . That's definitely something to consider too; you might get your hands on a card before people have even decided what it's worth. You could trade it and make out like a bandit, or you could trade it and kick yourself later.
Needless to say, I was pretty pleased when I checked later and saw that foil Wrexials go for about $3.50.
March 28, 2010 1:35 p.m.
mattlohkamp says... #4
actually, I'd say the two types of trading are: trading with a shop, and trading with a friend. With a shop, you're going to get somewhere around 3/4 or 2/3 the selling value of the card, if you're lucky - that's just how they make a profit.
If you're trading with a friend, look the respective values up on a pricing aggregate site like magiccards.info, and make sure that the cards exchanged are as equal in value as possible. As a caveat, if you're talking about a couple of bucks here or there, it's not such a big deal, and trading a few .60 uncommons for a handful of .10 commons isn't usually worth tallying up the real value. Usually only rare and above, although occasionally particularly useful uncommons, will require that sort of attention.
March 28, 2010 3:36 p.m.
Darkness1835 says... #5
I agree with you on the point of trading with shops and friends, but that's more of card value than anything. I was talking about whether you need the card or not. But you're absolutely right.
March 28, 2010 3:52 p.m.
mattlohkamp says... #6
yeah. I don't really understand - well, I mean I do in theory, but I can't empathize - greed trading. What's the attraction? I mean, we're talking about cards you're trading for because you see value in them, not necessarily because you intend to use them, right?
March 28, 2010 4:14 p.m.
Darkness1835 says... #7
Correct. Lets say you have a playset of Volcanic Fallout s that you dont see yourself using for a while. And now lets say someone else has a playset of Blightning s. You dont need the blightnings right now, but hey, they're sure nicer to have than the fallouts. So you do the trade.
March 28, 2010 4:41 p.m.
Actually the Blightning s are commons and the Volcanic Fallout s are U1 so I would keep the fallouts.
March 29, 2010 5:02 a.m.
Darkness1835 says... #9
true, but check your prices. everywhere you go, blightning is going to be significantly more than the fallouts.
TAMA says... #1
Good article. I felt it was a little lacking in depth and was just waiting for it to go onto the trading rules of the power 9 as used in general trades i.e. the person with the card that is harder to obtain makes the rules.
A Jace, Mind Sculptor although worth about the same as two dual lands is still not necessarily worth it considering the Jace is still in print and the Duals are not.
March 28, 2010 5:26 a.m.