Touch of Ulgris

Necros Worm

Impervious Frog-first strike rather than protection from black

Alright, I've had like 8 cards make the finals and 0 wins so far... I'm like the Buffalo Bills of the T/O community set.

I'm gonna vote for Touch of Ulgris and Impervious Frog, as they are my own and I really like both. The reason why Impervious Frog was written up pro-black is because I envisioned him as one of the few creatures in Ulgris who belongs... but isn't corrupted by black as most of the others are. But, as always, I'm up for changing him.

For B/G I'm gonna vote for Excruciating Reincarnation... and not just because I like persist :) I would make it cost 4 and make it a sorcery.

1. Rot Liege.
2. Excruciating Reincarnation.
3. Impervious Frog.

Jungletread parasite - I don't think it necesarily has to change, but if it does, i like the design team suggestion

Necros Worm - like it as is

One thousand moths -

• Jungletread Parasite - would replace the green mana with a colorless. Still seems too op though, maybe a power/cmc restriction on the opponents creature.
• Engulfing Ooze
• Send off, love this one!

B/G: Obliterating Exposure- I like the design of this card to be able to get rid of pretty much anything. I think a reduction to 2BG and Sorcery speed would make this good without being OP or weak also, wording: choose target permanent target player controls. He or she sacrifices that permanent. G/U: Send Off- I don't particularly like this, but each other card is either overly complicated and/or not very exciting also why is Impervious Frog Impervious? Anyway this card is interesting, and I'm not entirely sure what to think of it, or how it can be abused, though I'm not a Johnny, so I guess thats why. B/U/G Jungletread Parasite- I really love the flavor of this card, and the power level. This is by far my favorite card on the page. Though, as it is I think its a bit overkill, 3 life is alot, especially if the cost gets lowered. I would make it a 2/2 or 3/3 without changing the cost.

@patrickd117 the wording on Obliterating Exposure was changed so that it could (as the original poster wanted) get rid of shrouded things. We had to avoid words like target.

@patrickd117, like $ªmHεiπ said, it's flavor is to ignore shroud. As in the description of Obliterating Exposure, the head team had a ton of discussion over how the spell should be worded and not go outside of what Magic has done in the past. If you have any other ideas for it's wording to change, but it's flavor stay the same feel free to post your opinions.

Oh, wow, I had mistyped before, I just put target in automatically by accident: I had meant to type: Choose a permanent target player controls. He or she sacrifices that permanent. That makes a bit more sense than my original post.

My votes:

UBG - Rot Liege

BG - Necros Worm

GU - Impervious Frog, though I do like One Thousand Moths a lot a well.

Rot Liege - Personally I like the +1/+1s, it's the staple of a lord and it reminds me of the Shadowmoor lieges (which is a good thing). But I see how it could be overpowered. Could y'all keep it as is, but reserve the right to take them away if playtesting shows it's too strong?

Necros Worm - I like it, though it feels like it should have more power, doesn't it? 3/5 feels somehow underwhelming, though it's not bad by any means.

Impervious Frog - I like it at its core, but it does feel a bit lackluster. What if it had prot from Blue and Green as well as Black? That'd fit "impervious" more anyhow.

Wow, 2 top 10 finishers. I'm impressed with myself :)

But sadly, I shall only vote for one of them.

1. Jungletread Parasite. Maybe reduce its cost by 1 colorless. I was thinking "Hey, Mind Control costs 5 but it sticks around and is easy to remove (Naturalize ). This creature can go to my opponent and I get one of theirs for 6 mana? Good enough."

With that in mind, it must also be a rare, unlike the uncommon Mind Control . So I then thought "Make it BURN" (like a one-way Jinxed Idol ).

Only other suggestion is make it more powerful so it stands a chance. Maybe added deathtouch?

1. Obliterating Exposure. This was my favorite :) I like the new text, but it should be more "Maelstrom Pulsey". Maybe "Name a NON-LAND permanent. Each player sacrifices all permanents of the chosen name"? Otherwise, goodbye MOUNTAIN or goodbye FOREST.
2. Impervious Frog. Protection from Red AND White (the other two colors) and it would be great.

UGB: Rot Liege, should keep the abilities as they are but slightly toning down the power and toughness might not be terrible. Of course if testing proves it to be broken making it not buff itself could work.

GB: Engulfing Ooze. Love the ability the name makes me think it wants to be a creature though.

UG: Don't really like any of them but out of these I think One Thousand Moths is the best one.

@MagnorCriol - generally that is the idea with most cards. We will playtest and if cards are broken then we will change them after consulting with the community

@squire1 - Cool. I figured that was the case, I just wanted to kind of make sure. Makes me more confident in my vote. =p

RE: Impervious Frog, I don't think Prot Red and White (as per Jarrod_0067's suggestion) work as well because they're colors that don't exist in Ulgris, right? Sort of like how the battlemages in Shards of Alara only "knew" three colors of magic, the frog wouldn't likely have protection against the two colors that it doesn't have any exposure to.

UNLESS, that is, the frog is flavorfully a sort of "holdover", who got its resistances when the shards were one, and still has them even though they're now separate? (Since we're building the last set, story-chronologically, first). That's an interesting thought, actually.

Design Team- Hi. I created "Send Off".

I just wanted to point out that it was originally written to be a "YOU MAY" effect. I see that that part is now missing. Don't know if that was intentional or not. I suspect it was accidental.

I think it changes the card quite a lot, because now it could be advantageous for the opponent.

If the change was intentional, that's up to you, but I wanted to point that out.

Personally, I wouldn't vote for this card w/o the "you may".

P.S. If the "you may" made it overpowered, then I would suggest a cost increase, rather than dropping the "you may".

@ vic

I'm not a part of the design team, but a little comment from my side though. At the exceptionally low cost of GU, I think the 'may'-clause can't be included, since a lower cost have to include a larger 'disadvantage' for you as well. The reason I like it a lot is just comboing it with things like Memnite and/or Ornithopter for a free Call to Heel (without giving your opponent card advantage) each turn.

for G/U/B : jungletread parasite, i like this quite a bit, but the mana cost should be reduced by 1 colorless and i think its P/T should be raised to 3/3 to offset the 3 life the opponent loses on each of his/her turns.

for B/G : obliterating exposure, i think it should be like maelstrom pulse which would require make it only target nonland permanents, also i think it should cost 2BG and be sorcery speed.

and lastly U/G : this one was tough these ones didnt shine as well as the other categories but my favorite of the three is :

sendoff. i would keep it the way the design team has it now for 2 mana the "you may" clause is op and unneccessary. this card can do great things : it can return opponents tokens while bouncing i.e. Gatekeeper of Malakir to use his ability again, bounce a pesky creature that has you on lockdown while bouncing one of your creatures with a "etb" effect, and this card is AEther Adept 's best friend. i could see some form of control running this card.

gonna go with rot liege,obliterating exposure,and impervious frog

DingoDan and xeratheenigma-

Interesting points, and you could be right. Still seems risky, like it could backfire. I suppose that if you built a deck that was heavy on creatures that you want to bounce, like etb stuff or 0 cost, then you want it. Eternal Witness , Wood Elves , Sage of Epityr , Elvish Visionary , Coiling Oracle , to name some on-color stuff. That way, if we have it, then Ulgris maybe gets some handy commons or uncommons to go with it. In that case, it could be pretty damn good, actually.

Yeah, I hadn't considered the fact that once the rares are choosen, the rest will probably be somewhat built around them. This one does go well with that scheme. Okay now I like the change better than I did yesterday.

Since the quote up top said "The design team like this one as is." I still assume it is an accidental omission, and I see it hasn't gotten much interest. I bet it would get more interest the original way, even if the cost increased. My opinion.

B/U/G - Jungletread Parasite. i really like this card. I'd probably make it 2 life lost each turn, and make it cost 1 less. Remember that it's 3 coloured, so cmc 5 won't be too over-powered.

B/G - I'm going to be a douche and vote for my own card. I really like the way the design team has worded Obliterating Exposure. Changes i'd make:

• Make it more like maelstrom pulse, and have it only affect opponents. "Name a card, each opponent sacrifices all non-land permanents with that name"

• If people feel that it is too costly, then change it to 5 mana and make it a sorcery. Although, i think it's powerful enough as is.

B/U - One Thousand Moths. Call it One Thousand Maggots and make it produce 1/1 green insect tokens named Maggot, so that it combos with the Pulse of the Maggots. Also, two tokens may be a little over-powered, but one may be underpowered. I'm not so sure on this part

Either this, or make Pulse of Maggots turn maggots into Moth tokens. This could be very flavourful but i don't like it as much as my previous idea

B/U/G- Touch of Ulgris: Seems very flavourful converting permanents into insects.

B/U- Obliterating Exposure: Definitely non-land permanent correction.

B/U- One Thousand Moths: I made it... Yeah I know...

BUG: Rot Liege. I think either make it only effect other creatures or make it a 0/0. But I'm confused: if it gives a creature shroud, can't it no longer effect that creature, which means it doesn't have shroud, etc ad nauseum?

BG: Engulfing Ooze. This one was a tough choice. In response to IronHead, I was imagining more of a nonliving quicksand-like substance that creatures would get stuck in.

UG: One Thousand Moths. I like it as-is.

Shroud (This creature can't be the target of Spells or Abilities.)

"All creatures" does not target

Oh yeah. Duh. I should have known that.

BG: Engulfing Ooze. Could be fun when a token bomb hits.

UBG: Touch of Ulgris. I like Rot Liege. Very fun, but seems overpowered. Plus I would feel like we would have to have a similar Liege for all 5 shards. And I would LOVE to see the equivalent of the five 3-color SOA bomb creatures, Godsire , etc. If I knew that that would happen, I would vote for it. But I'm guessing that there is no such plan in place. Would the design team care to address that issue?

GU: Okay, my own, Send Off- But, I would really prefer the original way. The plan was that:

1) It was a "you may".

2) I could choose both the creatures(mine and opponent's) to "Send Off" of the battlefield.

It really needs at least one or the other, otherwise you could screw yourself royally.

There has been some talk about what cycles if any to put into the set, and when - but it will be some sort of challenge/voting thing when it does happen, so don't rule it out.

Yay! Glad Touch of Ulgris got some love, I really like it for Ulgris.