Have a question about the Collector Stone. It says you can bounce a spell from the stack if it's mana cost is less than or equal to the number of counters on the Stone. But how do you put counters on it?

I noticed you mentioned that it used to have an X cost; maybe that was the original intent? That doesn't seem overpowered. You could also make it an upkeep trigger, similar to Powder Keg, which would be pretty interesting.

Thanks.

Nevermind. Just had a MAJOR RTFC moment. Just got out of bed....my bad.

Are all of the cards the community creates posted and playable somewhere?

I generally lose them after the thread passes through and I'd like to see how you test these out.

Once the set is filled out we will be adding it to the TappedOut database.

River Raider r, u

Creature - Noogle Pirate

Haste

When ever River Raider deals combat damage to a player reveal cards off the top of that player's library until you reveal a non-creature artifact card. Put that card under your control then shuffle the rest of the cards revealed this way back into their owner's library.

1/1

Stone of Attunement 1RU

Artifact - Legendary Gemstone

Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under your control return Stone of Attunement to your hand.

Creatures you control have Resolve and Flying.

Rild Griffin Master 2RW

Creature - Goblin

When Rild Griffin Master enters the battlefield, put two 1/1 white Griffin Hatchling tokens with Flying and Haste onto the battlefield.

Flying, Vigilance, Haste.

2/2

Finuub Mage UR

Creature - Goblin Spellshaper

UR,T: Target Goblin you control gains flying. At the end of turn sacrifice it, and it deals 2 damage to target creature or player.

I can make you fly, as long as I focus, and think hard ... and dont sneeze.

1/1

er, Artifact - Legendary Gemstone, should be Legendary Artifact - Gemstone , of course. :)

Bomb Vest X, R, W

Artifact - Equipment

Bomb Vest enters the battlefield with X charge counters on it.

Equipped creature gains "When this creature is attacking and is unblocked destroy this creature and all equipment attached to it. Bomb vest deals damage to defending player and each creature they control equal to the number of charge counters on Bomb Vest. You gain life equal to the damage dealt this way."

Equip 2, W

Mountain Stronghold 2RW

Enchantment - Aura

Enchant player.

Creatures enchanted player controls have resolve and defender. Any player may pay 2 to negate this effect until end of turn.

Artifact Lab 2,w,r,u

Enchantment

Artifacts in your hand have flash.

Whenever an artifact comes into play under your control you gain life equal to its converted manna cost.

Whenever an artifact you control is sent to the graveyard add an amount of red manna to your manna pool equal to its converted manna cost.

2UR

Silent Rigmaster

Creature - Noggle Wizard

Silent Rigmaster is unblockable as long as your opponent controls an Equipment.

When Silent Rigmaster deals combat damage to an opponent, you may return target creature he or she controls to their owner's hand. If that creature was equipped, you may attach that equipment to Silent Rigmaster without paying its mana cost.

2/2

1RW

Gravlin, Sorok Artificer

Legendary Creature - Dwarf Artificer

Equipment spells cost your opponents an additional 2 colorless to play.

Whenever an equipment enters the battlefield under your opponents control, you may have Gravlin, Sorok Artificer deal 2 damage to target player and you gain 2 life.

1/3

2RRWWUU

Out of the Rubble

Sorcery

Sacrifice any number of artifacts you control.

Put an X/X drake token with haste, vigilance, and shroud that's red, white, and blue onto the battlefield where X is the total converted mana cost of the artifacts sacrificed in this way.

Gemstone Market - 1RW

Artifact

Gemstone Market enters the battlefield tapped.

Gemstone Market doesnt untap during your upkeep.

Shuffle a gemstone you control into your library; Untap Gemstone Market

RU(Tap): Search your library for an Artifact Gemstone and put it into play under your control.

Counterattack

1WRR

Instant

Tap target blocking creature you control.That creature deals damage equal to its power to attacking player. Attacking player may have an untapped creature take the damage rather then himself.

Damn messed up.Counterattack should read-

Tap target blocking creature you control.That creature deals damage equal to its power to attacking player. Attacking player may have an untapped creature he controls take the damage rather then himself.

Scalding Geyser UR

Instant

Scalding Geyser deals 3 damage to target creature or Return target creature to its owners hand.

If that creature was equipped you may have target opponent lose 3 life or you may draw a card.

Instant

Gemstone Blast deals 3 damage to target creature or player.

You may put a 1/1 Gemstone Artifact Creature into play.

Sorcery

All creatures gain -13/-13 until end of turn.

Jewled Colossus 10RWU

Artifact Creature - Golem Gemstone

Jewled Colossus costs 2 less to cast for each gemstone you control.

Haste, lifelink, shroud

11/11

I like Jeweled Colossus, but two problems.

1. No colored artifact creatures are allowed.
2. Its ability seems very similar to affinity for Gemstones. I'm not saying that that's a bad thing, just something to consider.

Okay, revised!

Mountain of Jewels RWU

Artifact - Gemstone

Sacrifice five gemstones: Put an 11/11 colorless gemstone golem artifact creature with haste, lifelink and shroud onto the battlefield.

Even the treasures of this land have a lust for blood

Hey everyone,

Glad to see the gemstone thing starting to come to life. Also want to say that despite the minor flare-ups at the end of last session, I really think this is a terrific group, and I have a lot of respect for the minds that we have here.

HERE'S AN IDEA that I want to pitch. It came up before, but I think I should say it again:

Think about gemstones... they are mineral materials with names. Quartz, topaz, hematite, opal, garnet, jasper, oxyx, pyrite, etc. I propose that OUR GEMSTONES be like that. Except that they are not of earth, they are of Sorok. So we would "invent" our own fictitious gem names.

Examples:

I have already worked with VINTIMITE(blue/white mana, has an "attraction" power that enables creatures to block multiple attackers, because they are all pulled in toward the vintimite source.

I also did something hypothetical with KARTHRACITE. It involved red/white mana and double-strike, if I recall correctly.

So the gem names that we invent would be part of the names of the cards. Dwarfs use the Sorok gems to make equipment. That is why our artifacts are colored. They are MADE OUT OF GEM MATERIALS...not metal. That's what is special about Sorok. At the same time, the energies of these gems are so powerful, that they overwhelm non-sorok natives, and thus give them weakened P/T. But...Sorok many natives are immune(they have Resolve...get it?)

So, I wanted to throw that out there again. Not trying to dictate, by any means. I think maybe this got missed/forgotten from before, so I said it again.

Hope some of you like this idea!

Team, I made these a while back ago. To make it easier, I plan retype them for you later. For now, let me get them posted.

entry #1 Gorthox, Dwarven Gemsculpter...

I know that the issue of equipment tokens had some concern. I think this one will work. Simple enough abilities. Easy to remember. And if this is the only such entry, well...I think we could room for at least one.

entry #2 Noggle Muckraker

entry #3:

Going with Jarrod_0067's idea of making a 3-color gemstone equipment

WRRU

Artifact-Gemstone Equipment

Equipped creature gets -2/-1, haste, vigilance, double strike, and is unblockable.

equip: 2

"The elder dwarves respect the power of zylectium above all other gems in Sorok. Only the highest ranking crafters attempt to sculpt with it."

Aqubod, the Source - URW

Artifact - Equipment Gemstone

Equipped creature has all passive abilities among creatures you control.

Equipped creature gets -4/-4

Equip 2

Artisan, "Look what I found, its so shinny"

Nekla, "Wow, does it do anything?"

Artisan, "Lots of stuff"

Nekla, "Like what?"

Artisan, "Like Everything".

Change of Scenery

Sorcery

1RWU

Return all lands in play to there owner's hand. Each player may search his library for four lands and put then directly in play.

I would like to withdraw my entry #2, Noggle Muckraker. Useless ability if no artifacts on opponent's board. I can do better.

JAKAZ AMALGAMATION

RU1

Artifact-Gemstone

All creatures on the battlefield get +X/-X, where X is the number of gemstones you control.

"Unlike the other Sorok races, noggles are known to hoard jakaz, and use it for mischief. It has been known to backfire."

@Unas:

Looking at your Rild Griffin Master. I like it. Wanted to point out that something that we talked about in brainstorming was the idea of an alliance of dwarfs + griffins, vs. an alliance of goblins + drakes. Something to consider, if you agree with that theme. I don't know if you would be interested in changing anything about your card, to fit that. Still a perfectly playable card. But I thought you might be interested in knowing that, since I don't remember seeing your name around before.

Strength of the Adamant 3,R,W,U

Legendary Artifact - Gemstone Equipment

Mighty Sledge of Sorok is indestructible.

Equipped creature has double strike, resolve, and vigilance.

Equip R,W,U

The Sledge imbues its wielder with the power of egespirite, the life-force of all Sorok.

Enchantment - Aura

Enchant creature

Enchanted creature has resolve.

When enchanted creature blocks or becomes blocked, it loses resolve and gets +4/+4 until end of turn.

Nothing can sway the most adamant of dwarves.

Instant

All creatures get -X/-X until end of turn, when X is the highest power among creatures.

Terror fills the hearts of all but the most stalwart under the shadow of the mighty griffins.

Cave Drake 2RU

Resolve, Flying

U: Cave Drake looses resolve until end of turn.

1R: Put a +1/+1 counter on cave Drake.

2/4

@vic Hi. No you probably haven't seen me around, I've been lurking for some time now and mainly practicing drafts. But I like the idea of designing your own cards and making a set of them, so I thought I'd give it a shot

I definitely agree with that theme. Changing it to a drake is slightly problematic because then the colour theme gets lost. So let's change it to a dwarf instead. Dwarven Griffin Master; Creature - Dwarf

Thanks for pointing it out :).

Polishing off and writing up my entries right now, but I just noticed we're all about a year late for the Feb 11, 2010 deadline. =p

heh my bad - fixed.

Okay, text for my entry #1

RW2

Creature- Dwarf Legend

RW, Tap: Put a red and white artifact gemstone equipment token onto the battlefield with:

"Equipped creature gets -1/-1, double strike, and lifelink.

Equip: 2"

"The dwarves were acclimated to the powerful energies of the Sorok gemstones. Outsiders, attempting to wield them, found their unseen powers to be overwhelming." - Someone from another shard

Unas- Great to hear that.

Cave Drake from #31 raises a question. Would Resolve cause existing P/T counters to fall off?

Mountain of Jewels gets me to thinking that, at some point, we could use a card that makes some kind of cheap gemstone tokens. Perhaps a land card?

@ vic regarding post #31

The design intent was that the counters would remain, however for them to take affect resolve would need to be removed.

Not sure what the design team's thoughts are.

And when resolve was given back the counters affect would be null

Noggle Security Guard

1RB

Haste,Flash,resolve

(tap) target creature gains resolve till the end of turn

(tap) target creature loses resolve till the end of turn

2/2

Essence of Sorok

RRWWBB

Legendary Elemental Creature

Haste, Vigilance, Flying

R: Creatures you control gain Haste until the end of the turn

W: Creatures you control gain Vigilance until the end of the turn

B: Creatures you control gain Flying until the end of the turn

3/3

Sorry essence of sorok is supposed to be RRWWUU >.>

Frozen Fire

UR

Legendary Gemstone Artifact

R, tap: Boiled gemstone deals damage to target creature equal to the number of gemstones you control

U, tap: Draw cards equal to the number of gemstones you control divided by two, rounded up, and then put that many cards minus one from your hand on top of your library.

The brainstorm-ish effect may be a little overpowered but would be fun to work with

having a long day... the R tap ability of frozen fire is supposed to say "Frozen Fire" not "Boiled Gemstone"... that was the working name of it.

Okay, finally settled on my entries. Had trouble narrowing my ideas down.

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Goblin Egg Market

1RWU

Enchantment

Whenever a Goblin you control deals combat damage to a player who controls a Drake, put an egg counter on Goblin Egg Market.

2U, Remove an egg counter from Goblin Egg Market: Put a 1/3 blue Drake creature token with flying onto the battlefield.

~~~~~

Red because it's goblins, white because it's commerce (civilization/community), blue because it's drakes. Cheap because this feels like something you'd want out sooner in a game, but I'm not convinced it's not undercosted.

Could VERY easily be converted to a creature if they fits or balances better. Make it Goblin Egg Thief, it puts 0/2 defender tokens named Drake Eggs on the field, the eggs have "when this goes to the graveyard but a 1/3 blue drake onto the field".

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Control the Passage

3RW

Enchantment

Whenever a creature with flying attacks you, it loses flying until end of turn.

Whenever a creature with landwalk attacks you, it loses all landwalk abilities until end of turn.

Whenever a creature you control blocks, it gains double strike until end of turn.

~~~~~

I like hosing evasion and this plays nice with Resolve.

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Ravil, Tensed Muscle

Flying, Resolve

Whenever Ravil, Tensed Muscle blocks, tap it. After the combat damage step, it loses resolve until end of turn.

At the beginning of your end step, if Ravil, Tensed Muscle is untapped, you may have it deal damage equal to its power to target creature or player. If you do, tap it.

2/5

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I was looking at the winners from the last round and set about designing a pair of drake legends designed to be opposite-but-equals for the griffins.

This is Susurrus, the Breath of Sorok's partner. What's the opposite of a breath? Holding your breath, like you're tensed up. From there, it was designing a creature who had the feel of something waiting, taut and poised, and whose abilities played off Susurrus'.

If both he and Susurrus are on the field, they sort of cancel each other. He can absorb Susurrus' attacks all day, but if he does, he can't shoot anything; but if Susurrus doesn't attack and give him a reason to tap down, he gets damage regardless of Susurrus' ability.

(The other drake, incidentally, was called Nisth, Moonshroud of Sorok and sent equipment back to its owner's hand with combat damage, directly threatening Olarin, but I didn't feel like I was balancing it right and Ravil seemed a more interesting card.)

I see bounce as a keyword. What exactly do u mean by that? Is it a sorok keyword or do u mean the returning of stuff to our hands?

It's the player-slang for returning things to hand. Unsummon , Regress , Disperse , and Boomerang are all examples of "bounce" spells.

K yea knew the slang meaning just didn't know if it was somehow designed into a keyword like flash or vigilance. Thank u!

Entry #1

Spitz and Spike. 1UR

Legendary creature - goblin drake wizard

Haste flash flying

When you cast Spitz and Spike deal 3 damage to target player or creature.

When Spitz and Spike enters the battlefield counter target spell.

2/2

This guys downside is that he is legendary, so casting more than one destroys both unless u use the 3 dmg to kill the one on the board. Lol

Hope u guys like these two!

Entry #2

Darvit, Master Chucker 2RRWW

Creature-Dwarf

Tap: Attach target equipment you control to a creature you control.

Tap Unattach target equipment from a creature you control: Deal 4 damage to target creature or player. That player or creatures controler gains control of that equipment.

"You might want to let go of that"

4/4

I can see people calling this guy chuck lol

Entry #3

Nutrexsus RWU

Legendary Artifact - Gemstone

Spells you cast cost R W U less to cast.

"Many talk about a legend of a drake turned into a powerful being after eating one of these rare color changing stones"

The flavor txt hints of a drake turned powerful being, I am refering to Drake turned Dragon as in Numot, the Devastator because of his casting cost and because he doesn't have a story or origin.

I want to say, I think there are a number of very nice entries this time around. Themewise, it's coming together a lot better, imo. It's going to be hard to see some of these not get in. I think that a lot of people are really hitting stride with Sorok now. Looks great. I was down on some things I was seeing before, but I'm pretty excited this time.

Card Name: Illusion Delta Mana Cost: 8UR Type Line: Enchantment Text: Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery, you may pay X. If so, copy that spell X times. You may choose new targets for the copies.

Card Name: Shimmerflare Mana Cost: 2WR Type Line: Instant Text: Shimmerflare deals 5 damage to target creature or player. Tap all creatures target player controls. Those creatures don't untap during that player's next untap step.

Card Name: Lightning Maelstrom Mana Cost: 3WUR Type Line: Enchantment Text: Whenever a player casts an instant or sorcery, that player exiles it. That player then puts a white, blue, and red 3/3 Elemental creature token onto the battlefield with flying, vigilance, and haste.

"I Cruel Ultimatum you -wait - (pays 5) You have to sacrifice 5 creatures, discard 15 cards, and lose 25 life. I get to return 5 creature cards from my graveyard to my hand, draw 15 cards, and gain 25 life. Muwhahahaha!"

Illusion Delta is op. "I cast Time Warp and copy it 6 times. Mwahahahahaha!!!"

Or pretty much any card that has dangerous abilities. Doom Blade can kill and entire field of non-black creatures, Demolish gets rid of all your opponent's lands and artifacts, even Fireball for 5 copied 4 times will win you the game

Yeah. Note how the Replicate keyword was generally costed at the same price as the mana cost (though there are a few cases where it should've been lower - looking at you, Pyromatics ) and anything that can copy a spell tends to either be one-shot or expensive. The ability to copy some of the most powerful instants and sorceries in the game needs to cost far more than 1 colorless per copy.

I like the idea of the effect. Feels like it'd basically have to be a mythic, however, even if you raised the cost to copy.

http://images.traas.org/magic/cards/private/goblin_manipulator.png

Might be a little too good; may want to either remove haste or up the casting cost by 1

Might be a little too good; may want to either remove haste or up the casting cost by 1

Sorry about duplicate post -- I screwed up with the formatting.

I may want to play around with the wording. The idea is that this is a night that can pick-off charging ground-based infantry while defending a castle or something.

The idea is this guy is the leader of the Goblins in Sorok. The term "Doge" is a reference to the high magistrate position in the old Republic of Venice. It was an elected position, where the Doge could be elected from the heads of any of the quasi-noble merchant houses of Venice. I thought that had a little more flavor than a pure monarchy in this context, as it was specified that the Goblins were a bit more learned and had elected advisors, yet more archaic than a full-blown representitive democracy like is common today, and thus more fitting for a fantasy setting.

As it was mentioned that there were Wizards, I wanted to use bounce. The fact that he is a keeper of law makes him white, as does the life gain. The first two abilities, though, are all classic red Goblin, and demonstative of his ability to mobilize goblin forces.

@adt6247 - It would be worded like Cunning Giant:

"If Cunning Giant is unblocked, you may have it assign its combat damage to a creature defending player controls."

so

If Griffin Firelancer is unblocked, you may have it assign its combat damage to target creature without flying.

It would be too OP for 3 CMC. Make it 4 and it will be more fair.

@ Jarrod_0067 and MagnorCriol:

Timmy will love this card. By the way, I don't think it's that overpowered. When ten mana rolls around you'll either have lost or have won the game. Then again, in multiplayer this will be like Consecrated Sphinx .

Updated text on Griffin Firelancer. I don't think making it a 4 CMC card will balance it -- I think that makes it unplayable. I could see this:

Flying, Resolve. If Griffin Firelancer is unblocked, you may pay [R] to have it assign its combat damage to target creature without flying.

Sorta making it a repeating lightning bolt. I'm not convinced it's too good as is, however. Is it even as good as Vampire Nighthawk ? Resolve, here, is actually more of a hinderance, as there's no way to juice it.

I agree with Jarrod. 4cmc for Griffin Firelancer. Consider Roc of Kher Ridges . 4 cmc for 3/3 and just flying.

Imagine if firelancer got double strike. Easy enough with R/W(and being a knight). His ability triggers twice.

Btw, I would enjoy seeing a combo of your griffin being cast when my equipment entry...post #25, is already on the board.

That would be fun!

good point with Roc of Kher Ridges however that was costed as such for a few reasons. Power level was lower back then and it is a mono red flyer.

Contrarily Skyknight Legionnaire is more recent and is a 2/2 flying haste for 1RW and a common. That would indicate that to make it a rare, it would need to be stronger. So a +1/+0 boost and triggered ability is not that far off power wise.

I don't know that I would consider rarity to mean necessarily "stronger". To me, common, uncommon, and rare has more to do with what kind of a function the card serves in a deck lineup. Maybe that's just me.

I'm not explaining this as well as I want to, so I'll use an example instead:

Do you make a 1/2 version of Llanowar Elves (same cost), and call it an uncommon, or make it a 2/1 and call it a rare? To me, that doesn't work.

That's more what I'm getting at. So by the same token, I don't think you make a stronger version of Skyknight Legionnaire , with the same cost, and call it a rare.

We could maybe throw out Roc of Kher Ridges , and say it's outdated. But I think Skyknight Legionnaire is actually a good argument in favor of a cost boost to the griffin. 2/2 haste vs. 3/2 with a strong trigger ability, to me, is a mismatch. I can't see those two with the same cost.

Also I would point to Wasp Lancer . 3/2 no trigger vs. 3/2 with trigger.

If the rarity is an issue, then I think it makes more sense to say that a certain card is maybe just not a rare.

I hear what you're saying, but I think I would say I'm still on the side of 4cmc.

Wasp Lancer uses the either/or mana types, which makes it possible to put in more decks or mono color decks.

Vampire Nighthawk is still a stronger card, and is only a single color.

If the card existed as is, though it is a strong card, it would still get almost no play outside of EDH or limited, because who plays RW? Making it 4CMC makes it unplayable outside of limited.

I play RW, the best color combination too. I say it is a good card, but resolve does nothing for it. It's actually probably fairer since it isn't getting boosts. Maybe just make it a 2/2 and call it even

I don't have time to read all these concept cards so I apologize in advance if I make a card similar to a previous entry.

---Meleofo the Furious---

Casting Cost: UR2

Legendary Creature - Merfolk

At the beginning of your upkeep, all creatures are dealt two damage. Merfolk creatures are dealt one damage instead.

3/4

"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny."

-Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

---Goblin Agitator---

Casting Cost: RW

Creature - Goblin

Doublestrike

During each player's attack phase his/her creature with the highest power must attack if able.

3/1 So you think you're more civilized? We're as civil as a fight to the death!

---Pinstone---

Casting Cost: RWU

Legendary Artifact - Gemstone

flash

As [cardname] enters play, counter target spell.

sacrifice a creature: flip a coin. If heads counter target spell. If tails your opponent gains control of [cardname]

If you ask the Goblins, the Dwarves are hording it. If you ask the Dwarves, the Merfolk have it locked away. If you ask the Merfolk, the Goblins want to light it on fire.

Ah nevermind I'm four days late. They were fun to make anyways.

Jarrod_0067: Small point here. Resolve works just as well for the firelancer, as it does any other creature. Look at posts # 19, 25, 26, and last part of 30, and consider the combo.

Resolve works IF we make it work. It's a tricky mechanic, because by itself, it does nothing. It really HAS TO combo(as far as I can see), even if the combo is an opponent's attempt to lower P/T.

Also, this is one of those cards that would be just as good in another shard, UNLESS it has resolve. Without resolve on this guy, we may as well have just made a card for the B/W/R shard. We really have keep to eye on that kind of thing in these challenges.

And I think you are right about 2/2, call it even.

adt6247:

Personally, I think Vampire Nighthawk is flat-out OP. I'm not going to base a cost comparison with that thing.

You are right about Wasp Lancer being a little easier to cast. But I do think that small difference is outweighed by the trigger ability. It's a creature-killer. Yeah, it's conditional(and as I read more closely, I see now that double strike would not make it trigger twice), but as a flyer, has a good chance of triggering. Pretty significant.

Honestly 3 1/2 cmc would probably be perfect, but we can't do that : )

I think Jarrod's idea is the way to go.

I want to say it would be a very nice Sorok card if we can get it just right. Good going.

@ vic - How does it not have anything to combo with. You said yourself that it is defense against opponents lowering the p/t. And with is a keyword of one of the shards. How is resolve not helpful there?

Really we need to stop making assumptions about what the next 600 cards are going to be. There are only 27 cards in the block so far everyone, ways to exploit mechanics will come, but it is a slow process

Ok guys, time to vote. Go here to do so http://tappedout.net/mtg-articles/2011/feb/15/sorok-gold-voting/