Kamahl, Fist of Krosa EDH

Commander / EDH Cariddis

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Cariddis says... #1

TortillaConfetti I tried it but it cost a lot of Mana and the deck doesn't require a third wincon. Have you tried it yourself?

April 2, 2019 12:40 p.m.

Titus78 says... #2

Cariddis why no selvala?

April 15, 2019 10:23 a.m.

Cariddis says... #3

Titus78 in which way is selvala going to advance my game plan? Her ability to draw is definitely worse than beast whisperer's one. Furthermore, given that I have very few creatures with power greater than 4, she's basically a 2/3 who nets you 3 Mana at best. Selvala is a great card, but she's a "build-around" one. If I'm missing something in my reasoning feel free to point that out, but I doubt she deserves a spot in the 99s. Then again, if you prove me wrong I'll be more than happy since it will mean that my deck has suddenly got better :)

April 16, 2019 10 a.m.

With the release of WAR, I feel like Finale of Devastation is an auto-include. Fetch a ‘hoof or reanimate from the graveyard, almost always team pump for the win.

I’m also looking at the new walkers Nissa, Who Shakes the World (for land indestructibility and sidegrade doubler to Extraplanar Lens for those who don’t like snow Lands), and maybe Vivien, Champion of the Wilds (flash is always good and the -2 is rather good I think).

Opinions/playtesting?

April 27, 2019 11:38 p.m.

Cariddis says... #5

I'm already testing some WAR cards. Personally, I don't like to include any of the new planeswalkers. The reason is because they feel like "win more" cards and because Green does not have access to good tutors for PW. The two cards I'm really interested in are Blast Zone and the one you mentioned, that is Finale of Devastation . The latter is basically one of the best Green tutor they printed in a really long time. The former is a great removal effect that can be easily fetched in Green at instant speed and it is extremely versatile.

April 28, 2019 9:55 a.m.

TheSlowestBro says... #6

This simply looks like an optimal Kamahl list! Very cool indeed, as a Titania player I came across a few card choices I hadn't thought about before so +1 for sure.

June 5, 2019 10:58 a.m.

Cariddis says... #7

TheSlowestBro thank you for your upvote and for your appreciation :)

Deckbuilding is an continuous process so I put all my body and mind into refining and tuning as much as possible.

Thanks to this I'm able to run optimal choice of cards for my deck, even if the commander itself is not cEDH material.

June 6, 2019 11:02 a.m.

Inkmoth says... #8

Cariddis: Awesome deck, dude! :D My only recommendation is Mouth of Ronom given how limited green's ability to remove creatures is.

July 10, 2019 10:35 a.m.

Cariddis says... #9

Inkmoth I appreciate your feeback :) I always wished to put Mouth of Ronom inside the deck, but I never found space for it. Usually you would want to remove low costed stax creatures (like the ones that have Torpor Orb -like effects) and that's why I run Blast Zone . Do you believe that Mouth would be better?

July 11, 2019 10:27 a.m.

Inkmoth says... #10

Cariddis: I believe it would be supplemental. It's a piece of tech that's very difficult to come by in our color. Especially since you're missing Lignify and Song of the Dryads , which is typically an auto include in monogreen decks for this reason alone. I suggested Mouth of Ronom cause it's easier to slot in a land, but if I had to recommend anything it would be to run every cost efficient answer to creatures.

July 11, 2019 10:53 a.m. Edited.

So, The Great Henge seems like a shoe-in. Question is what to replace it for.

October 5, 2019 11:16 a.m.

Cariddis says... #12

Austin_Smith_of_Cards it is a very powerful card. I am testing it but question is: is it an auto-include or is it a win-more? You cannot tutor it, and the only effect you really care about is the one that lets you draw cards. I think it is better to have cards like Beast Whisperer and Genesis Wave : one is fetchable, the other one is one so powerful that lets you win on the spot.

We'll see :)

October 5, 2019 2:23 p.m.

Ender666666 says... #13

Cool deck, I like it alot. Care to take a look at CTRL-G (The Art of Mono Green Control) and offer your thoughts?

December 1, 2019 1:50 p.m.

Cariddis says... #14

Ender666666 I will!

December 2, 2019 2:37 a.m.

Ender666666 says... #15

Cariddis Thank you!

December 3, 2019 11:13 p.m.

Sooo...

Nyxbloom Ancient looks pretty stupid. Worth it to point out it's actually a multiplier, not 'an additional two mana', which means stuff like Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx and Gaea's Cradle becomes REALLY stupid. Any thoughts on working it into the list, or is it too win-more and vulnerable as an enchantment creature?

January 10, 2020 3:30 p.m.

Cariddis says... #17

Austin_Smith_of_Cards nyxbloom seems to me worth the try: it is a very good target for Natural Order and it will be less likely to be removed with respect to Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger . I think I will try it instead of Regal Behemoth . Furthermore, Nylea's Intervention is another card worth trying. For 4 mana it let's you get Gaea's Cradle and Deserted Temple . I still haven't decided yet whether it is better to take out Traverse the Ulvenwald or Worldly Tutor .

FYI, I am currently playing The Great Henge instead of Woodfall Primus and Collector Ouphe instead of Bramble Sovereign . The first swap is due to the fact that woodfall is very heavy on our curve and it doesn't provide much value for that cost. Speaking of the other swap, Bramble is good but it was actually the only flex slot I could think of. The choice was between it or Titania, Protector of Argoth , and the latter provides us more value. Ouphe is a nonbo with our mana rocks and with Birthing Pod , but it is far more troublesome for a lot of other decks so this is why I am currently trying it. I will let you know :)

January 11, 2020 2:36 a.m.

I'd probably drop Traverse the Ulvenwald for Nylea's Intervention. Not only is multi-land tutoring great, the flying boardwipe mode is a very nice secondary option. I dropped Traverse ages ago because in an exile-heavy removal meta and graveyard hate, I never have delirium whenever I drew that card, and it was always a Lay of the Land for me. Worldly Tutor is consistent, even if it doesn't have a foil printing.

January 22, 2020 12:34 p.m.

Cariddis says... #19

Actually, I think I will cut Expedition Map due to the fact that it is a nonbo with Collector Ouphe

January 23, 2020 4:23 a.m.

I think Bramble Sovereign is too good to cut; I just had a game where I copied Nyxbloom Ancient, and I had to check rulings to confirm, but I was indeed multiplying my mana by 9. My Gaea's Cradle was tapping for over a hundred mana at a time.

Problem is, I don't know what you'd cut from your current list. I ditched Scryb Ranger a while ago; that card has never worked out for me. If I absolutely need that effect, I have plenty of ways to search up Quirion Ranger.

January 30, 2020 1:18 p.m.

Cariddis says... #21

Having 2 nyxbloom is just a win more: with 1 in play you are already winning the game, definitely.

Scryb Ranger is extremely strong, and you want multiple Quirion Ranger effect in order to untap animated Gaea's Cradle more than once in a single turn. This is why I include it.

In short, bramble is extremely strong, but it just gives you further advantage in a situation where you are already far ahead. It doesn't help much getting to that specific situation, though, due to the fact that it is a slow engine and triggers very alarmed reactions in your opponents' mind's.

January 31, 2020 3:03 a.m.

DecadeFire says... #22

Love your deck and insight in this commander. Right now I've been bouncing back and forth between Nissa, Worldwaker and Garruk Wildspeaker in my 99 just because I like PWs and untapping forests is pretty strong when they're able to stick. But I have Greenwarden out of the deck right now to fit it which seems wrong. Greenwarden is a value champ. What would you suggest cutting to fit one of those PWs?

April 22, 2020 3:08 p.m.

Cariddis says... #23

DecadeFire I am glad that you like my deck :) between Nissa and Garruk, the latter is far more strong IMO, given the fact that you could generate a lot of mana with Gaea's Cradle. If I had to make room for it in the list, I would probably cut some other non creature card that is not a tutor. The Great Henge would by my most likely choice, I believe.

May 11, 2020 7:13 a.m.

Any thoughts on finding a slot for Vivien, Monsters' Advocate? Her static ability of playing creatures off the top of your library seems crazy strong with all the topdeck manipulation this deck utilizes (Sensei's Divining Top, Sylvan Library, Mirri's Guile). Plus, her minus ability is a straight tutor-from-library-onto-the-battlefield effect. I can only imagine casting Craterhoof Behemoth, only to grab Avenger of Zendikar and slam it onto the battlefield before the team pump trigger resolves.

May 15, 2020 6:11 p.m.

Cariddis says... #25

Austin_Smith_of_Cards the issue with non-creature, non-land cards is always the same:

  • Are they worth it, since you cannot tutor them?

  • Which is the card you are going to swap them for?

From the look of it, I see a 5 drop which has to stay alive a whole EDH turn before starting paying itself over more turns. It is far better to simply draw more cards using all the draw engine we already have. The minus ability is fine, I admit, but still you are looking at a 5 mana sorcery. Therefore, I will not include it in my 99s.

On the other hand, though, I am currently testing Kogla, the Titan Ape and Oakhame Adversary. I'll update you soon enough on those :)

May 18, 2020 4:33 p.m.

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