I threw this together super fast, Fireweaver makes the combo better because of the ping. But Anticipate definitely belongs in the list
January 6, 2017 5:48 p.m.
Firebones675 says... #3
The tokens she create have haste. Like in the original twin cobo you kill through damage, no need for ping
January 6, 2017 5:50 p.m.
If you're that worried about a Fog, I suggest throwing Fireweavers in the side. Otherwise it's not very useful redundancy.
Edit: whoops didn't mean to suggest Fog
January 6, 2017 5:53 p.m. Edited.
Hi Zaueski, i was waiting to see your take on this combo, and it looks pretty solid.I'd prefer it in frontier though.My suggestion is Spell Queller instead of the fireweavers, sinve it's good with baral and it's a flashy tempo beater
January 6, 2017 5:57 p.m.
You guys are probably right, I just threw this together to see the potential... Over the course of the week I'll refine this but say hello to Standard for the next forever lol. This will be everywhere... I'm halfway expecting a ban announcement.
January 6, 2017 6:01 p.m.
Edit: I was wrong, Spell Queller hasn't sinergy with baral, I always considered it a counter but it isn't, it exiles the spell.Maybe It's a good option though
January 6, 2017 6:19 p.m.
Firebones675 says... #8
Just through together my own version, Standard Twinless Twin. From goldfishing it definitely seems like it has potential. I already have an infinite combo deck in standard but it looks like i might need to get another one. I know Wizards set out to create a format where players would feel like inventors and appeal to the their "johny side", but they surpassed my expectations by a pretty large amount.
January 6, 2017 6:22 p.m.
I think Reflector Mage would be better for this deck than the fire weavers. It synergies with Saheeli and felidar guardian, and it helps you stay alive long enough to combo off, rather than just enhancing your combo slightly.
January 7, 2017 2:36 a.m.
You might want to add some dual lands, even some of the cheaper ones such as Highland Lake and Stone Quarry would really help with consistency, while Battle Lands such as Prairie Stream or the Shadow Lands/man-lands would be even better.
January 23, 2017 8:08 p.m.
Read the description, I'm not making this budget. The dual lands will be added later, I just hate tweaking them a million times over as I slowly edit the list. Assume the mana base is perfect, unless you're disputing the number of lands, and tell me what you think of the deck itself.
January 23, 2017 8:12 p.m.
Vorpalizer98 says... #15
I'd suggest playing as many Harnessed Lightning as you can. Shock is another good one, but maybe only two? three might be okay but you need to make sure you aren't focusing to hard on the combo to win. Fumigate should make an appearance because token decks and +1/+1 counter decks will be your down fall, it can also help turn the corner against aggro, perhaps two? obviously don't play your Felidar Guardian into it. Negate probably could see main board play as a one or two of, red decks will be looking to Shock Saheeli to kill her once you try to combo off, control will be trying to counter your pieces or outright kill them. Your sideboard also needs some form of enchantment removal and probably more then usual because of Authority of the Consuls one mana stop you from playing magic. (Aside from winning with Torrential Gearhulk ) I think you will find the mana base rather simple to create and I wont need to make any suggestions regarding that. You may also find you only want to play three Saheeli Rai
January 23, 2017 9:04 p.m.
sandwraith says... #16
Biggest problem with Saheeli is you almost never want to play her on T3 but in order to keep up the tempo, you need to get her out at least by T4.
Enter Sram's Expertise, which actually takes care of 2 problems inherent with Saheeli. Essentially you play the Expertise for 4 Mana, create 3 dorks which helps Saheeli protect herself. Then you play Saheeli for free and immediately +1 her to get her out of Shock range and Scrying to hopefully see Felidar Guardian on top for your next turn. Otherwise you could at least have 2 turns to try and find your win-con.
January 23, 2017 11:07 p.m.
Thalia would also slow down aggro decks a lot while you set up and would completely stop your opponent from successfully pulling off their combo the same turn if you were playing in a mirror match.
January 24, 2017 9:32 a.m.
Neat deck, but I fail to see when the Reckless Fireweaver would be of any use whatsoever.
January 24, 2017 12:14 p.m.
Reckless Fireweaver stops the TurboFog deck and punches through a Thalia, Heretic Cathar. It'll probably get cut, but I'm still in the early stages of the deck currently.
January 24, 2017 12:16 p.m.
I need a little more detail please. I don't know what the TurboFog deck is and I don't understand how it gets through a Thalia, Heretic Cathar. Not trying to be rude, but I just don't get it.
January 24, 2017 12:45 p.m.
Thalia, Heretic Cathar makes all of the tokens enter tapped so it becomes impossible to swing for infinite damage. The tokens are all artifacts so they ping on entry with Reckless Fireweaver making Thalia's tapped clause irrelevant.
TurboFog just plays Fog-esque cards over and over to stop the damage and is generally an annoying deck. In standard it means that Commencement of Festivities doesn't prevent me from winning.
January 24, 2017 12:55 p.m.
In a world in which Reflector Mage wasn't banned, I would have chosen the value route, with Panharmonicon and Saheeli to maximize etb triggers; now I'd go for a control deck with only guardian and Torrential Gearhulk as creatures. Otherwise I'd try the Aetherworks Marvel version, with board wipes and Newlamog
January 24, 2017 1:31 p.m.
Got it, thanks for help. Also, I hadn't realized that the tokens were artifacts.
January 24, 2017 2:11 p.m.
It seems from the open that the best tempo versions of Saheeli twin are 4 color. I think if you stay in jeskai then control is probably better.
January 24, 2017 7:38 p.m.
There's probably room to add a combo win with a couple Crackdown Construct to play off of Fumarole.. maybe back out a land Needle Spires and one of the Glimmer of Genius
Firebones675 says... #1
Id take out the fire weavers for 4 Anticipates
January 6, 2017 5:46 p.m.