UpsetYoMama says... #2
Temporal Extortion is a funny card. Generally, it's not that great since it gives your opponent a choice. If they're any good they will choose the best option for them. I had a mono-black EDH deck I ran it in for a while. It was kind of effective -- I had times when my opponents did pay the life. After experimentation I eventually took it out.
If you could find a way to sacrifice it, Ugin's Nexus would be an interesting card to try in here. The card is on my mind because I (unfortunately) pulled a foil one out of a pack. Arcbound Ravager + Ugin's Nexus would work, or Grinding Station + Ugin's Nexus. Plus it fits your artifact theme. Come to think of it, Arcbound Ravager would be a great addition to the deck regardless.
You could also nuke Ugin's Nexus with Pernicious Deed. An extra turn after clearing the board would be nice.
One of the things I love about EDH is trying to find random interactions like this that work :P (or don't work, which is more often the case).
June 17, 2015 6:46 p.m.
UpsetYoMama ah! if only Ugin's Nexus went to graveyard instead of exile xD could be epic. Maybe even somehow infinity combo of turns hehe
What do you think of the deck now? should be better, I took in consideration you suggestions,though couldn't allow myself to add the expensive cards. So I did what my wallet allowed me :P
June 17, 2015 7:27 p.m.
UpsetYoMama says... #5
Skullclamp is banned in Tiny Leaders, EssTea, probably what you're thinking about. It was also included in two of the 2014 Commander decks Wizards released (with new art).
June 17, 2015 10:31 p.m.
UpsetYoMama says... #6
Also, I like the inclusion of Darksteel Plate, it's one I hadn't thought of.
June 17, 2015 10:31 p.m.
EssTea, UpsetYoMama
Skullclamp based on magiccard.info:
Legal in Vintage (Type 1)
Banned in Legacy (Type 1.5)
Banned in Block Constructed
Legal in Classic (MTGO)
Legal in Commander
Banned in Modern
All the equipment I have was put with Glissa, the Traitor in mind :P I really want to include
Whispersilk Cloak as you suggested but I don't know how to squeeze it in
so what do you think of the deck now? I'm afraid that I have too high avg CMC\too much high CMC creatures :/
June 18, 2015 2:40 a.m.
UpsetYoMama says... #8
Maybe take out Dregs of Sorrow or Executioner's Capsule. I still don't like their limitation of only hitting nonblack creatures.
The deck looks much better now. Although your CMC curve isn't perfect, you can probably get away with it. While important in EDH, it's not quite as critical as in other formats.
June 18, 2015 8:21 a.m.
Legionofinferno says... #9
I would (however unhelpful this may seem for lack of a replacement card) take out Deadly Recluse for its lack of versatility. Instead, mana ramp could fill up that 2 CMC slot. Cards like Rampant Growth or Expedition Map. In my opinion, the deck in general needs higher CMC cards as finishers in the late game and more utility creatures, instead of Phylactery Lich and Vampire Nighthawk which have one use then are discarded. Maybe artifact cards with sacrifice effects and relevant (no offense) abilities, like Scarecrone, Ratchet Bomb, or Oblivion Stone. Oblivion stone especially because, if I'm correct, it will blow up the board and glissa's trigger will return it your hand upon destruction.
If you need help, there's always this amazing page and the lists of commander staples in the other articles: http://tappedout.net/mtg-articles/2012/apr/4/building-edh-deck/
June 18, 2015 5:34 p.m.
UpsetYoMama I see your point as I guess many people play triple color decks so good chance to
come across a black creatures.. but I'm not sure that Ratchet Bomb will be better.. I do have one though.
Maybe as a side board card?
Legionofinferno thanks you for your suggestion when I first saw Oblivion Stone I was like "Hell that will be great I'm getting one!" but then I saw the price >_<' its $29.99 in the store I buy..
so this can't be an option for me.. along the way with Damnation great card but too high price..
As for Deadly Recluse well I wanted more Deathtouch for Thornbite Staff and Viridian Longbow
and it got reach so could help vs flying, and as it is with DeathTouch can help even in late game
As for Phylactery Lich well yes not the best I wouldn't mind to change it but if I do I think it should
be a creature as 26 is not that much and I would like to keep it 26 :/
Thank you for the link to the article I will read it for sure :)! I bookmarked it :)
June 19, 2015 9:52 a.m. Edited.
HeroInMyOwnMind thank you, if you have any suggestions/criticism/ideas feel free :) It will be appreciated.
June 21, 2015 2:04 a.m.
I would be glad to hear what do you think about this guys, UpsetYoMama, Legionofinferno, AtomusPrime, Averymk9 as I did listen to all of your suggestion and made changes accordingly :) and I thankful you for the help.
I've also those cards and thought they might fit but not sure:
Kusari-Gama - for killing many creatures
Bloodgift Demon - flying with extra draw sounds good
Consuming Vapors - removal + healing might be good
Painful Quandary - sounds like good limiting card, though I've read that it is best played with discard tactics.
Foul Renewal - might be better removal as I get an extra creature plus can kill indestructible creature.
Black Sun's Zenith - I know its a good card but not sure that I have a place for it.
Altar of Dementia - can make some combos with the other artifacts and give me more options for resurrection.
Mask of Avacyn - thought can be a better alternative for Champion's Helm but I put Whispersilk Cloak instead. As its equipe cost is higher then of Helm's.
Champion's Helm - as stated above, I've changed it to Whispersilk Cloak, as I wanted an effect for all of my creatures, though as my low CMC creatures are quite weak might be a good idea to have it.
generally putting those cards in will raise the avg CMC of the deck and as it is 3.39 its quite in the limit of not too high..
Just some of my thoughts but will need to test and see if anyone can suggest what to include from that list and instead of what I will be thankful :)
June 23, 2015 1:09 a.m. Edited.
Made few changes,
In:
Life/Death
Black Sun's Zenith
Death Wind
Phyrexian Reclamation
Fleshwrither
Demonic Tutor
Rune-Scarred Demon
Took out:
Swamp
Decree of Pain
Siege Behemoth
Dregs of Sorrow
Gyre Sage
Putrefy
Ohran Viper
Wanted to have more reanimation and tutoring
July 26, 2015 7:47 p.m.
griffstick says... #15
Triangle of War works great here, with your commander. if you can get your hands on one
August 5, 2015 1:53 a.m.
griffstick it is an interesting card, thanks for suggesting it. I can get one will need to see if I can squeeze it in.
I had an interesting game vs Boros EDH, I had 7 life left while he had 72.. I reanimated his Silverblade Paladin and soulbonded it with Wurmcoil Engine and Darksteel Plate + Thornbite Staff on Glissa that worked great so eventually won.
He had both gods on the battlefield his commander Iroas, God of Victory and Heliod, God of the Sun along side True Conviction.
but I had card advantage thanks to Phyrexian Arena that I started with.
His deck can put pressure easily in the early game in 1vs1 thanks to Iroas' abilities.. but if I survive it then it is hard to stop me.
I've made the last changes after some games against him. Now the deck is even stronger and I really enjoy it :)
August 7, 2015 8:14 a.m. Edited.
You allready have Mikaeus put triskelion with it, its an infinite combo. Tutor it with a tooth and nail, but dont forget you have to ping one damage on triskelion each time.
October 19, 2015 2:37 a.m.
Mudster thanks! didn't know about this combo, will get one for sure if I buy Tooth and Nail, will add it to my wish list of expensive cards >_<".. !
October 19, 2015 4:24 a.m.
Only played glissa in tiny leaders, but these cards rock in my deck:
Pit Trap! never be attacked from the ground again!! (Ok well not never, but a lot less).
Also, Ratchet Bomb and Powder Keg make pretty good, but slow, recurring field wipes.
November 5, 2015 3:12 p.m.
griz024 Thanks for the suggestions, didn't know about Pit Trap and Powder Keg will think about them.
After the last changes I will need to test the deck quite some to see how it works and what doesn't. Overall the decks works great and the last few additions works well.
November 15, 2015 3:12 a.m.
Thinking of adding: Jarad's Orders, Victimize, Acidic Slime and maybe Necromancer's Stockpile, Decree of Pain and Tooth and Nail.
Not sure at all about the usefulness of Platinum Emperion (mainly because of commander 21 damage lose), so maybe better to change it for Artisan of Kozilek or It That Betrays or Pathrazer of Ulamog.
Planing on reanimating anyway..
November 23, 2015 1:38 p.m.
Added Grimoire of the Dead! perfect fit for the theme :)
It is a Necronomicon :D
Took out Etched Champion for it, well he is not that useful :/ if he got the metalcraft effect he can block any creature but beyond that attacking with him in commander is useless, unless I equip him but I got only one equipment ( Batterskull )..
Still want to put in Acidic Slime for more artifact \ enchantment removal.. but 5 mana is high :/ and don't know what to take out..
November 26, 2015 12:53 a.m.
DancingC0w says... #25
Really should add Triskelion, since him and Mikaeus, the Unhallowed is infinite just with these two
NiTRoBoX says... #1
AtomusPrime,UpsetYoMama Interesting I didn't know that and I think I do have Crypt Ghast in my collection hmm will need to search.
I've made some changes based on your comments, although I'm afraid my average CMC too high now,and I lack enough low cmc creatures :/
Also there more cards I would like to add but some of them too expensive for me atm, and generally have no clue what to take out for them.
I will get one of Pernicious Deed and would like to put Sorin Markov one day :P
I'm using Sorin's Vengeance more like finishing move..
Also was thinking about Temporal Extortion what do you think?
I like the idea ofCoffin Queen + Illusionist's Bracers but I think its won't be good if that is the only use of it as I don't have really other creatures to use it with well maybe with Visara the Dreadful but thats it :(
June 17, 2015 6:04 p.m.