I don't know if you read the description or not, but the deck is creatures and lands ONLY. Every suggestion you gave is a noncreature card. Yes I know the curve is off, it's highly dependent on animar being in play and it's only meant for fun.
March 7, 2018 1:18 p.m.
SufferFromEDHD says... #5
Your 1 noncreature spell should be Primal Surge!!!
Oracle of Mul Daya is the land variant of Vizier of the Menagerie.
Tidespout Tyrant is a beast alongside free spells.
November 11, 2018 3:03 p.m.
I haven't gotten around to buying Oracle of Mul Daya, for the time being Mina and Denn, Wildborn is a filler. I really like Tidespout Tyrant and I will definitely consider finding a spot for it.
Primal Surge is a great card and if I do decide to use a noncreature spell, that will be it. I like the way the deck has been performing so far, so at least for now im gonna leave it out. Thanks for the suggestions!
November 11, 2018 3:22 p.m.
SufferFromEDHD says... #7
Heartwood Storyteller more card draw.
Greenwarden of Murasa bigger, better and cheaper (thanks to Animar) Eternal Witness.
Scourge of the Throne another extra combat step creature.
Keldon Firebombers if you are feeling evil.
November 11, 2018 3:55 p.m.
I like all of those suggestions. Definitely gonna playtest each one. Thanks again!
November 11, 2018 4:19 p.m.
Corpsejack menace has black and is not legal in my deck. I wish he was, but unfortunately I have to make do without.
November 14, 2018 10:51 a.m.
I_TappedWrong says... #11
if you feel like being mean and want to keep the all creature theme add Keldon Firebombers and play it when It That Betrays is out...
November 14, 2018 11:04 a.m.
Last_Laugh says... #12
Primordial Sage, Beastcaller Savant, Selvala, Heart of the Wilds, Ancestral Statue, Cloud of Faeries, Great Whale, Palinchron, Fierce Empath, and Tishana, Voice of Thunder all deserve spots here. All are cheap too excluding Selvala and Palinchron. Feel free to check out my list for ideas, Animar, Gaea's Hemorrhoid feedback, upvotes, and/or ideas on any of my lists is appreciated.
November 18, 2018 4:26 p.m.
Sorry it took me so long to get back to you on your suggestions.
- Primordial Sage - I actually just dropped this for Beast Whisperer for the lower CMC.
- Beastcaller Savant - This is replacing Farhaven Elf immediately, I forgot about this guy for whatever reason even though I run him in another deck. Great catch.
- Selvala, Heart of the Wilds - love this card and will be finding a home for her
- Ancestral Statue - I like the idea of having a card to return creatures to my hand, but I think I want to find something that has an activation cost, so I can abuse it as opposed to just a single ETB effect. But you got my motor going with this suggestion.
- Cloud of Faeries/Great Whale/Palinchron - I'm eventually going to replace Peregrine Drake with Palinchron one of these days, I'm not sure I want to run more than one of these types of creatures just because I have so many other awesome stuff I don't want to sacrifice for it, but I'm going to keep the other suggestions in mind, this deck will be forever elvolving.
- Fierce Empath - For whatever reason, I've never really liked this card, don't know why. But the fact I can cast it for 1 mana and get any of my big fatties is really nice. It will probably find a home eventually, just need to decide what I'm willing to lose first.
- Tishana, Voice of Thunder - This card was in my original build and eventually got cut to help lower the average CMC and make way for other ideas. I really like the card, and I'm almost certain I will be putting her back in soon.
Thanks for all the suggestions, I'll be taking a look at your deck today.
November 29, 2018 5:38 p.m.
Last_Laugh says... #14
Ancestral Statue targets itself with its etb and goes infinite with Animar due to eventually costing nothing to cast. Primordial Sage type draw and Palinchron type land untap you want as much of as possible. This deck does better the more you're able to juggle mana and card draw and this is the reason people have suggested Tidespout Tyrant, so you can abuse etb/cast triggers over and over.
November 29, 2018 7:42 p.m.
That makes a lot more sense now that you pointed it out. Lol. Thank you, I have some more work to do.
November 29, 2018 8:19 p.m.
CrazyDude101 says... #17
nvm, u have Ruric Thar, the Unbowed and Somberwald Sage missed them. Also Gaea's Cradle if u have one and Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, im also a huge fan of the bounce lands (card advantage) and would add them.
January 1, 2019 2:53 a.m.
Thank you for the suggestions, some of them are going to be added in when I buy them and find slots:
- Bloom Tender - fantastic card, it will definitely find a home eventually.
- Glen Elendra Archmage - I've been trying to remember the name of this card, i want more counterspell in the deck and with it having persist and me running a +1/+1 counter subtheme, it'll be extremely abusable.
- Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger - love this card, but I won't add it to this deck. I run it my mono green deck and I don't want the 2 decks to feel the same.
- Jin-Gitaxias, Core Auger - I like this card, but it might be a little too oppressive for how I want the deck. It may replace Nezahal, Primal Tide eventually. I'll have to do some playtesting.
- Abzan Beastmaster - this is underwhelming to me. Id rather draw off each creature I cast than banking on getting a card per round.
- Ixidron - not a fan. I only run 1 morph creature so this would hurt me considerably as I count on all my creature abilities to overpower my opponents.
- Voyaging Satyr - I personally like mana d9rks more than I like untapping lands. Especially since I don't have any big mana generating ones in the deck.
- Gaea's Cradle - I have 1 copy , and it's in use in my mono green deck. And I don't switch out cards, so as good as it is, it probably won't find a home in this particular deck.
- Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx - this is an interesting suggestion, as it's so much better in mono colored decks. But green is my predominant color in this deck and could be decent. I'll have to playtest it and see.
Thanks again for the suggestions!
January 2, 2019 6:20 p.m.
Last_Laugh says... #19
If you're looking for more countermagic on a body, consider Stratus Dancer.
I'd also work on lowering your avg. cmc significantly. I'm legitimately trying to help here, so take the following with a grain of salt.
You're sitting at 5.43 avg. cmc currently, which even for Animar is extremely high. For S's and G's I'm gonna break this down mathematically compared to my Animar, Gaea's Hemorrhoid list. My list is 3.68 avg a full 1.75 avg. cmc lower. That's 364 mana (5.43x67) your deck costs compared to 243 (3.68x66) for mine, which is 121 mana less. Now consider that with your current land count each individual mana adds .081 avg. cmc to your total cmc. Also consider that for me to make up that difference is the equivalent of me replacing all 16x of my 2 drops AND all 15x of my 3 drops AND 2x 1 drops with 6 drops (and that's still only 120 out of 121 mana). As things stand currently your deck will struggle to get early counters on Animar especially with your low land count.
I know Animar is one of those commanders you want to fit every big splashy creature in, but resist the urge. Prioritize what stays and what goes by asking yourself one simple question in Animar... 'Does this help me win this turn?'
January 2, 2019 7:38 p.m.
Last_Laugh says... #20
Hmm ignore 'Now consider that with your current land count...' and everything after that... I F'ed up that math bad. (Guess that's what I get for mathing stoned)
It's about .0146 avg. cmc added per individual mana. (I accidentally figured it off of 67 cards, not 364 mana... my bad).
January 2, 2019 7:46 p.m.
I really dont care about average cmc, I'm not running artifacts and enchantments that would normally lower the average cmc. This is a gimmick deck through and through. And it actually performs really well despite its handicaps.
January 2, 2019 8:04 p.m.
Primal Surge with Urabrask the Hidden will win you the game. You are only allowed one non-land, non-creature spell so make it count!
March 30, 2019 10:46 a.m.
Ares111123 says... #23
This deck went infinite on turn 4 when i play tested it in a game. Infinite counters on animar into a free kozi and used that to draw the deck, then one blue for Peregrine Drake into infinite mana, into playing your entire deck and due to urabrask instant win. Might be a little too good for casual with Ancestral Statue in the deck and how its set up lol.
April 13, 2019 5:08 p.m.
I marked it in the casual hub due to it being creatures and lands only, thus limiting the competitiveness of the deck. It's definitely insane when it goes off though.
April 13, 2019 5:15 p.m.
trevorthestar says... #25
Great deck, I love playing Animar myself. But you did say that you could use 1 non creature spell. So I would suggest that you add in Zendikar Resurgent . This not only doubles our mana but it also lets you draw a cart whenever you cast a creature. When I have this card out on the battlefeild when I play my Animar deck, I am able to dig deaper for the answers that I need to the Problems on the board. And the draw a card on this still triggers on Rashmi's trigger. I would also recommend adding in Yisan, the Wanderer Bard . This will also allow you to react to what your opponents play.
oliveoilonyaasscureshemorrhoid says... #1
cough Overwhelming Splendor cough
maybe add Lurking Predators for flavor alone. definitely needs more lands and ramp, your curve starts at 3, maybe on 4 if you cast animar so early, and a ton of finishers. sol ring, etc
It'd be cool to Progenitor Mimic the Biovisionary though
March 7, 2018 12:18 p.m. Edited.