Exiled_soul says... #2
@naterino that sounds like a good idea. Thanks for the feedback!
February 27, 2015 1:23 p.m.
Awesome deck dude! Whovians unite! +1 for innovation and consistency.
May 26, 2015 5:40 p.m.
shoopmywhoop says... #4
I feel like this shouldn't work but it looks so consistent.
May 31, 2015 4:36 p.m.
electromancer says... #5
I did a little goldfishing (not quite what asked, but close I guess). I could be very wrong here since this is far from my type of deck but seems your pretty dependent on Extraplanar Lens past turn 4. I did a little number crunching:
You have a 77% chance of drawing at least 1 of either Remand or Gigadrowse (your only forms of control) by turn 4.
You have a 38% chance of drawing at least 2 of either by turn 4. This jumps to 45% if you added 1 more, in case you're curious.
Not sure if this helps, but I really like what this deck is accomplishing.
May 31, 2015 8 p.m.
Exiled_soul says... #6
@MentorOfTheMeek: Thanks!
@shoopmywhoop: It is surprisingly consistent. I went to MDSS Toronto with it awhile back and I did pretty well. Didnt place but I beat twin decks and other top tier deck all day long. I ended with a 4-3 record but I had to leave before the final round because my ride was leaving.
@electromancer: Yeah the build is pretty dependent on the lens. I have done well without it because spells like time warp etc are not too hard to hard cast, but to cast my win cons I need it in play. I will probably be including another Gigadrowse. Any thoughts on what I should drop? I am thinking a Cryptic Command because it is not useful in the early game.
May 31, 2015 8:06 p.m.
shoopmywhoop says... #7
Cryptic is way too good with the lens because you can cast 2 of them after the turn you play the lens. You just need a more sure way to find it.
May 31, 2015 8:14 p.m.
electromancer says... #8
That might make sense since your only running 22 lands. With 22 lands you have a 64% chance of getting your fourth land drop making that turn 4 Cryptic Command a less sure thing than it looks.
.56 (at least 1 cryptic turn 4) x .64 (fourth land drop) = 36%
May 31, 2015 8:32 p.m.
electromancer says... #9
@shoopmywhoop, Oh yeah, doh! I forgot we were talking about the lens. I agree, a tutor could help a lot here.
May 31, 2015 8:35 p.m.
i've seen these decks use Exhaustion to good effect as well as more howling mines like a second jace, some amount of Font of Mythos and some amount Temple Bell.
June 1, 2015 12:20 p.m.
Drift of Phantasms, Reshape, Fabricate, Shape Anew, Gifts Ungiven and Archmage Ascension are options.
Drift of phantasm does the same thing as fabricate but could also go for jace and can't be countered. still has value even if you don't need to search. Gifts ungiven would be a quick way to get two lens's but you'd lose two of them with out using Academy Ruins. while both reshape and shape anew require a sacrifice so they might not always be usable.
And ascension would be the slowest but would get you there since you certainly have the draw to support it. +1 from me
June 1, 2015 9:09 p.m.
Justin_Bop says... #12
I like this idea! As you said, I looked at the list and was like, Huh? But after playing a couple games, I learned how to play the deck and realized how fun and powerful this deck is! I like the Extraplanar Lens with the Snow-Lands! It gives you immense amounts of mana! Nice job here.
June 3, 2015 4:10 p.m.
electromancer says... #13
borgon, I think you misread Gifts Ungiven. It allows you to search for 4 different spells. You can't just grab 4 of the same :) Good analysis of the other tutors though, I wasn't aware there were that many.
June 3, 2015 5:18 p.m.
ops.... how did i forget that, thanks electromancer for catching my slip up. but out of all of them i still like shape anew the best for the replacement. while the others might be usable more often, it still feels iffy sometimes to waste a whole turn on just getting a card and then having to cast it next turn. on the other hand that or drift are the most relevant besides the fact that drift is both a tutor and a creature. I think ruins is a good idea in-case lens gets taken out at any rate. would be hard if they kept taking it out. and of course love the doctor who reference.
June 3, 2015 6:36 p.m.
Exiled_soul says... #15
@CricketYT: I had considered Exhaustion in my original build but I have found Gigadrowse to be FAR more useful. The same thing goes for Font of Mythos and [Temple Bell. Unfortunately there is such a thing as Twin and other decks that can combo by turn 4. Therefore I need to be casting some spells before that. Howling Mine fills that gap for me. Thanks for the interest!
@borgon: I have considered tutors in this deck however I am faced with a dilemma. Many of the cards are here because they are necessary to the structure of the deck. Unfortunately I can not figure out if tutors are even needed. As you said earlier, I would tutor (taking up a full turn), then cast the card next turn. This sets me back a turn. With that being said I will be trying out some tutors just to see how it goes.
@electromancer: Thanks for the math help! Math has never been one of my strong suites.
@jrogers16: Thanks!
June 3, 2015 7:10 p.m.
Temporal Trespass seems a like a good one of if your sacrificing islands to buyback.
June 6, 2015 10:38 a.m.
Exiled_soul says... #17
When that card was spoiled i considered it for my build but the issue with Temporal Trespass is it exiles iitself after casting. Which makes it a one shot deal. Seeing as Temporal Mastery already exiles itself after casting I want to be able to recycle my deck / graveyard with my eldrazi and still have extra turn spells in my deck at the end of it. This would be much more difficult if I were to cut some for temporal trespass.
June 6, 2015 10:43 a.m.
Wow I just play tested and I love it! Amazing job! (sorry I have no suggestions).
June 7, 2015 11:17 a.m.
I was playtesting this a bunch and I found that extraplanar lens is kind of needed. What would you take out for them?
November 1, 2015 12:15 p.m.
Exiled_soul says... #23
Didnt even realize I had taken them out. I was playing around with the deck awhile ago and I guess I forgot to re ad them XD
November 7, 2015 12:28 a.m.
Wobbly_Bob says... #24
You should consider adding Panoptic Mirror. Imprinting cards like Time Warp onto it is likely the most satisfying feeling ever.
naterino says... #1
I would run 2 Rapid Hybridization and 1 Pongify or the other way around. It may seem stupidly irelivent but having all of your creature kill be taken out by Extirpate or similar cards is not fun.
February 26, 2015 12:43 p.m.