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1. Oath of Liliana doesn't do enough for the deck. The first ability is mediocre and I don't need the zombies to protect the walkers. I'd sooner run Oath of Gideon than Oath of Liliana.

2. There are 12 targets for Goblin Dark-Dwellers, none of which are super vital to recast. If it recurred my walkers then sure, but it doesn't so this isn't the type of deck that it needs to go in, it belongs in a more spell focused deck.

3. Uh no? This is exactly the kind of deck that she is amazing in. The deck was literally built around her so she would always be relevant.

Noxious Gearhulk might be a beater choice then the read one giving an opponent a choice is never good.

I would recommend Deploy the Gatewatch. You have 15 planeswalkers so on turn 6 you will have about a 77 percent chance to hit one planeswalker and about a 55 percent chance to hit 2 or more.

@flyingninjakitty the reason I picked the red one over the black is because both outcomes are really good for me. I either draw 3 cards which is always good or they take an average of 10 damage which is absolutely insane. I don't need the life gain or the kill spell so the black one just isn't as relevant. Giving an opponent a choice is usually bad, but when they choice is kill yourself or give me more ways to kill you, its good.

@KingOfZendikar 55% to hit 2 walkers is too low. For me to play the card I'd need to reliably hit 2 or it just isn't worth the mana as all but one walker is cheaper than 6 mana.

My apologies Zaueski, I kept playtesting this deck but forgot that you wanted feedback about it!

You are absolutely SPOT ON with 25 lands. Also you are right to run Fumigate in the Sideboard. It is a wasted card against a Control deck, and is best subbed in once you have seen your Opponent's play.

Your deck is quite strong, but can take some time to set up. If your Opponent has a Creature or removal heavy deck it does struggle. I know you're aware of that second scenario.

I think that you could either do with some early Creatures to act as chump blockers, while your super friends are setting themselves up, or some early removal. Declaration in Stone springs to mind, as it can act as a board wipe or get rid of an Indestructible threat later on. I like it better than Blessed Alliance, as it can get rid of the biggest threat.

If your Opponent is Vehicle heavy then Revoke Privileges would be a good Sideboard option to replace Declaration in Stone. I would remove either Lost Legacy or Transgress the Mind for it. Probably Transgress for 3x Revoke Privileges, then add an extra Angelic Purge to ones I suggest in a moment.

Gideon, Ally of Zendikar could help you out with some blockers. When I played a Control deck I would always sub him in against aggro, and he worked really well. I like him better than Nahiri, the Harbinger, for this deck. The option to make all of Liliana's Zombies +1/+1 is no small thing. I know Nahiri is there to search for the Gearhulk, but she does squat apart from that. Just let the Gearhulk enter the field in its own good time.

By the way, the Red Gearhulk is totally the one to go with. Although your Opponent hardly EVER lets you have the draw, a damage hit that late in the game is a BIG DEAL.

I like Angelic Purge much better than Fragmentize. It has more flexibility as it can Exile three types of cards. It can take down Ulamog and Emrakul, the latter especially because you will have few Creatures an Opponent can play it against.

You have to sac something but, to be honest, that has never turned out to be much of a problem when we've tested it. If your Opponent gives you a Clue you can just sac that. A land will do, or one of your Tokens.

You are on track with 4x Chandra, Torch of Defiance. In playtesting she has been amazing and last night I had the chance to take her to FNM. She won three games for me that I would have lost, two of them winning me the match. She is so freaking good that it's scary. Her ability to Exile a card that you can choose to cast or let do 2 damage is what won me games.

Hope these notes are helpful and good luck with your future tweaks.

I've been flipping back and forth between Declaration in Stone and Blessed Alliance a lot lately, as they both do really nice things. I may end up going back to Dec Stone but for now being able to bluff away some attacks is super nice so I'm unsure how I want to procede with those two.

Nahiri, the Harbinger was originally lower on the count and I thought she'd get cut but as I've been testing she is so useful especially if I have Authority of the Consuls out. Gideon, Ally of Zendikar actually ended up being cut simply because of how few his options were. His 0 and -4 aren't usually relevant unless I'm already winning from a Lili emblem as you pointed out. And so since the most he could do for me is force bad chumps on an opponent, it was always so disappointing to top deck one when any of the others would've let me stabilize because of their board control abilities. Whereas to me Nahiri's ult is actually lowest on my priority list far under the removal and card advantage. Then when I'm nice and ready searching the gearhulk either gets me a lot of cards or I can often deal 10+ damage that turn.

Transgress the Mind and Lost Legacy have done a lot of work for me, so I don't think I'd cut them. However, in testing, Kambal, Consul of Allocation has really underperformed... So I could definitely see cutting him for Revoke Privileges.

Angelic Purge doesn't seems as good in this shell because usually I'd either have to sacrifice a land or a walker. Occasionally I'll have a token out but that'd be too rare to rely on.

Thanks for the feedback and I'll definitely think about putting Gids back in along with Dec Stone.

I would probably drop a Fumigate and two Transgress the Mind instead of Kambal, Consul of Allocation unless your meta just doesn't really use noncreatures outside of Declaration in Stone and board wipes and such. But Warping Wail would certainly be good seeing as Declaration in Stone and Radiant Flames are pretty popular right now.

I was about to post in the (Advertise your Standard Deck forum), but I have to say I really can't see anything that needs to be changed with this deck of yours right now, but perhaps that will change in the coming weeks.

You might want to consider Murder over Ruinous Path. If you do, id suggest +1 Anguished Unmaking and two murder

Ruinous Path can make a creature in the late game which is actually super relevant. However with the prevalence of vehicles, I may consider throwing in Unlicensed Disintegration because its easier on my mana and gets better in the late game once my Redhulks are out. Gideon's Reproach is another card on my radar though as a replacement for Blessed Alliance but both of those changes seriously weaken me against Emrakul, the Promised End so I'm hesitant to make them.

If you feel weak to emrakul, you want Blighted Fen not sorcery speed removal, as you need to topdeck the removal after they take your turn, while the fen can not be used on yourself

Nice going on your 1st Place win.

Thanks Argeaux it doesn't happen often but its always awesome when it does.

If I had all the cards and wasn't happening to be building 2 other standard decks and a modern I would probably try this 1. I just walked into my local game store actually earlier today and I was suprised when I bought a booster pack of Kaladesh I opened a foil Chandra, Torch of Defiance!

Dang thats pretty lucky. I wish I had some more foils for this deck but all I've got foiled is a couple lands and a Lili

My notable foils are an Emrakul, the Promised End, a prerelease promo Torrential Gearhulk, an Ishkanah, Grafwidow, and you could say a Sword of Feast and Famine masterpiece.

A foil Liliana would be pretty awesome, I still need to get 2 of her for my B/G delirium deck as why not build it when you have some of the required cards along with a foil Emrakul and an Ishkanah?

Delta-117 you are one lucky bigger cracking a Sword of Feast and Famine Invention.

Yes Argeaux I am very lucky in what I tend to open in packs.

A year and a half ago I opened 2 BFZ packs and there was my first expedition, a Windswept Heath, then about 6 months ago I went to a local Fnm draft where it was what was called a "whacky draft" where everyone would get 3 standard legal packs back when KTK was still a part of standard. I was shocked when from a BFZ pack I got a Prairie Stream expedition, then from my Oath pack I got a Fetid Heath expedition, and then a Atarka's Command in my KTK pack!

Then this Sword of Feast and Famine I opened at a Kaladesh prerelease. The deck I had was insane, I had the sword, a Noxious Gearhulk, a Metallurgic Summonings, along with some cards like a Tidy Conclusion, Malfunction and a bunch of other good blue/black cards for a control deck. I almost felt bad for my 5th and last opponent after I had already won my last 4 matches by casting and then equipping a Sword of Feast and Famine to an Aethersquall Ancient turn 8 that I already had out the turn before, attacking making them discard their only possible creature that would be able to block, untapping all my lands to play a Tidy Conclusion to kill off their Voltaic Brawler or whatever the creature was and getting a 5/5 construct from my Metallurgic Summonings that I played turn 5.

Once you go black you never go back, go blackhulk.

Noxious Gearhulk is the way to go I think. I run 2 in my Jund midrange/control deck and I always love drawing it. Tokens are a bit of a pain, but outside of that, Noxious Gearhulk is better than Combustible Gearhulk.

I would recommend maybe putting in some oaths. Just a suggestion

The problem with the Oath cycle pickelchu is most of them are just not good enough. In my colors I have access to 3 of them, Oath of Chandra is just plain bad, Oath of Gideon is pretty good, but it just doesn't do enough, at the 3 drop slot I want to be using removal most games to protect the walker I play next turn. Oath of Liliana I could almost see... But it'd have to take the spot of Ruinous Path or Painful Truths of those two, Ruinous Path is the most likely to swap out but I'm not sure which one I like more, the matchups where Oath of Liliana is better is R/G Pummeler (depending on how well the curve out) and Eldrazi Marvel decks... Everything else being able to target is better. Plus Ruinous Path awakening a Needle Spires is game ending every time I've pulled it off.

Tl;dr Oath of Liliana could sub in for Ruinous Path. Its mostly a meta call as both are rather viable options. Personally I switch LGS too often to build for anything but overarching standard meta.

Fair enough