Ghave EDH

Commander / EDH -Fulcrum

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are you calling jonny a bitch?

March 19, 2015 11:32 p.m.

-Fulcrum says... #2

Johnny is definitely a bitch.

March 19, 2015 11:33 p.m.

-Fulcrum says... #5

Stop doing that. It's amusing, but cumbersome.

March 19, 2015 11:38 p.m.

its okay. I'm sure jonny isnt on top anyhow.

March 19, 2015 11:39 p.m.

Asher18 says... #7

the Woodfall Primus comb doesn't work. the counters cancel each other out NUMBER wise, not EXISTENCE wise. so when it dies again, it would have a -1/-1 counter on it and thus not come back again

March 20, 2015 6:57 p.m.

-Fulcrum says... #8

@Asher18

704.5r If a permanent has both a +1/+1 counter and a -1/-1 counter on it, N +1/+1 and N -1/-1 counters are removed from it, where N is the smaller of the number of +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters on it.

The counters literally cancel one another out. They are removed entirely, not just mathematically.

March 20, 2015 8:14 p.m.

deathschoice says... #9

+1 for Hellsing Abridged reference.

March 20, 2015 8:24 p.m.

-Fulcrum says... #10

@deathschoice: Thanks for the +1 and glad someone recognized the reference

March 20, 2015 8:27 p.m.

Asher18 it used to be like that, but only when the new mirrodin set was standard due to proliferate.

March 20, 2015 8:54 p.m.

Have you thought about Duneblast? And maybe some more LTB effects?

Also, Strength of the Tajuru and Increasing Savagery would probably play well with Ghave.

March 26, 2015 3:29 p.m.

-Fulcrum says... #13

@purplebackpack89: Duneblast is too expensive a boardwipe. I prefer the 4 mana wipes so I can cast them and another spell the same turn.

Strength of the Tajuru and Increasing Savagery might interact well with Ghave, but they don't actually do anything to help me get closer to winning the game.

Thanks for the feedback.

March 26, 2015 7:18 p.m.

MCY998 says... #14

+1 just for the name. also, Y U NO Corpsejack Menace

April 5, 2015 8:31 p.m.

-Fulcrum says... #15

@MCY998: Thanks for the +1. Corpsejack Menace doesn't really help with the game plan.

April 5, 2015 8:48 p.m.

Ghostly Prison and Novablast Wurm JUST IN CASE>.

April 5, 2015 10:36 p.m.

-Fulcrum says... #17

Ghostly Prison only works against infinite tokens, which no one plays, and Novablast Wurm requires combat, which is something I tend to avoid.

April 6, 2015 2:06 a.m.

Megalomania says... #18

One of the most powerful enablers I have in my UB combo deck (Apocalypse Project ) is Insidious Dreams. I think it would work quite well in this deck as well as some reanimation (Reanimate and Victimize).

Used correctly, these will allow you to set up your combos faster and with the use or less mana.

April 6, 2015 2:35 a.m.

-Fulcrum says... #19

The additional cost clause is worrying. Without counterspell backup, that could potentially be disastrous for me. The card disadvantage seems too dangerous.

April 6, 2015 2:49 a.m.

Megalomania says... #20

Unless you're intentionally sending creatures to the graveyard. Anyways, a lot of people feel the same way you do but in my experience, it all boils down to timing.

April 6, 2015 3:20 a.m.

-Fulcrum says... #21

I imagine it does. I would be more willing to try it out if I had more graveyard manipulation. As it is, I have minimal reanimation. Could change in the future, I'll have to do more testing.

April 6, 2015 10:26 a.m.

-Fulcrum says... #22

The following cards are in testing and may be removed if deemed unsatisfactory.

Mikaeus, the Unhallowed

Oracle of Mul Daya

Cabal Coffers + Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth


The following cards are on the short list to be replaced.

Juniper Order Ranger and Cathars' Crusade

  • Their job is essentially covered by Mikaeus, who himself may be removed if I decide I don't like the combo. One can argue for redundancy, but I'm just not fond of the cards.
April 6, 2015 4:21 p.m.

klone13 says... #23

Pernicious Deed would be sweet imo.

April 8, 2015 7:41 p.m.

-Fulcrum says... #24

@klone13: Very nice, thanks for the suggestion. It's not something I've though of before. I'll definitely have to find a place for that.

April 8, 2015 11:20 p.m.

DaftVader says... #25

What about Twilight Drover? That+Ghave, Guru of Spores+any sac outlet makes infinite mana

April 14, 2015 4:27 a.m.

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