Infinite Goblins! (1072 Damage turn 4)
Modern
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burn is your worst match up. probably ok against control all though how do you deal with a turn 2 4/5, with lightning bolts and Kolaghans command, or anger/pyroclasm/volcanic fallout?
July 19, 2015 10:31 p.m.
benelas16 I find competing with burn generally isn't too big of a problem. In this deck there is certainly a lot of burn to go around, and if you find that they're going to fast for you to keep up, you can either add in Dragon's Claw, Vexing Devil if you need it a bit faster, and Goblin King especially against red decks. In burn matchups, that is where Tuktuk the Explorer is in his prime, send him out, attack, then goblin grenade him for a lot of damage which also creates a 5/5 that is still effected by everything goblin. The small creature wipes are certainly able to slow this deck down, without doubt, but hopefully your hand consists of goblins that will achieve more than the toughness of 3, for example Goblin Chieftain + Goblin Guide , Krenko, Mob Boss.
If you have any suggestions, there are definitely things that can probably be changed for the better! :) (I'm thinking of siding Blood Moon, but I'm not sure if it's too slow for this deck really. Any thoughts on that would be appreciated as well)
July 20, 2015 6:36 a.m.
I think your deck description is messed up, so you might want to fix it, even though I understood what you were trying to say. Still, a +1 for me.
July 22, 2015 2:57 p.m.
Thanks a lot SirFowler! I do definitely notice some price changes in the cards like Goblin Guide and AEther Vial that must be addressed. But is there any others that I may have missed? Thanks!
July 22, 2015 3:10 p.m. Edited.
Well, I have a couple of suggestions for the deck. Since you have the Instigator, why not add cards like Mogg War Marshal and/or Siege-Gang Commander? That way turn 3 could be more devastating when you hit with the second strike and cheat out Krenko.
Also, in the "Turn 3 win example", you forgot the 2 brackets after the Goblin Guide. Idk, I'm just a nitpicker.
July 22, 2015 3:30 p.m.
SirFowler I was noticing that error there and it actually is fully bracketed, I moved it around, took it out of the + and made it solo but it's bugged and it won't work :P
As for the deck in general, I don't want to only rely on Warren Instigator, so I don't want high cmc creatures like Siege-Gang Commander. Warren is very susceptible to people wanting him dead, therefore I can't rely on him to get everything out some of the time. With things like Mogg War Marshal and other token generating goblin spells, it's not that they're bad, but I'd have to remove stronger more prominent in-game creatures such as Goblin Rabblemaster, Legion Loyalist, and Goblin Guide which I find personally are more bang for their buck in the long run.
There are definitely ways to make this more damage on turn 4 by something as simple as using Foundry Street Denizen instead of Goblin Guide, but overall I wouldn't switch Goblin Guide with Foundry Street Denizen :)
Thanks a lot for the comment, and if you have any other suggestions or possible improvements, definitely don't hesitate to comment! :D
July 22, 2015 3:43 p.m.
I completely understand. What are your thoughts on the new Goblin Glory Chaser? I feel it's pretty strong, even though it does take an extra turn just to get renowned. Idk, I'm not much of a modern player, so I might not be the best at suggestions.
July 22, 2015 3:55 p.m.
I'm not a big Modern player either, I'm still working on constructing this deck. I have the majority of the cards, I hope to complete within the next couple of weeks which would be great. As it says there, this is my very first modern deck and I'm very happy with how it turned out :) I used it in proxies just mainly kitchen table style, so I can't go around saying I know a whole lot about this format either haha. Goblin Glory Chaser is definitely a good one drop for a budget version of this deck. It is better suited if you're trying to replace something until you get it. I personally don't like the fact that you'll send it out, end turn, attack for one, end turn, then on your third turn you'll have a 2/2 with menace. It seems a little bit too slow for a modern Goblin deck, but it could definitely synergize with a different budget option.
I'm tempted to make a budget version of this deck roughly around $50 just to see how it turns out..
Thanks a lot!
July 22, 2015 4:05 p.m.
trollslayer says... #10
SirFowler, while I respect your modern capabilities, I must sumon the ultimate magician on this, NoviceMagician. Unless of course he is uncapitated and you are his champion xD. Novice magician! You have been summoned! ( also bring the elderberries, ok?) while I love den gablins ( my brother calls them that) I would suggest something such as an Obelisk of Urd (though I do understand that it would slow you down) to prevent against boardwipes such as bile blight. Now, if you want good solid early hitters, you can add Mardu Scout. With the guide it's 5 damage turn 2. Now, modern is faster then standard, so that is my suggestion.
This has been my suggestion, I shall now go kill spainyards and Giants and really smart people. The smart people shall be killed with iodine. Good day.
July 22, 2015 4:19 p.m.
Obelisk of Urd is definitely something I've been considering. That and Door of Destinies seem to be really good artifact options for this deck that can help me out for any board wipe by damage and not destroy. I really just don't know what to trade out for it so far. I haven't really seen my personal meta, so it may be unnecessary, but on the other hand it may be better. I definitely want to playtest them to see if they can better replace something like Dragon's Claw Mardu Scout is definitely another budget option, but I don't feel as if it'll hold its own against the stronger options I have in this deck right now :)
Thanks a lot! :)
July 22, 2015 4:37 p.m.
This is a good deck, although I'm not really good at building red decks, but I'm okay, I'm building a red and black deck. But the main deck I use for tournaments is abzan modern, and I have a combo in my deck.
Death's shadow is a 13/13 and only costs 1 black mana and he gets -X/-X and X is my life total, I would discard that on my first turn. And put down Varolz, the Scar-Striped. Each creature card in my graveyard in my graveyard has scavenge and the scavenge cost is equal to the death's shadow mana cost, so I can exile Death's shadow and either put +13/+13 on Varolz, the Scar-Striped. Or I can put +13/+13 on a creature like Siege Rhino if the opponet doesn't have a creature on the battlefield. I would put it on Varolz, the Scar-Striped if Siege Rhino isn't on the field.
July 23, 2015 12:23 p.m.
Thanks BobbyMega, I tried my best to make this good :D! My brother plays a very similar deck to what you just said, except it's for Tiny Leaders. It's a lot of fun, and if left on its own for even a turn it's generally game. Definitely a good and fun idea!
July 23, 2015 1:13 p.m.
If they used Deflecting Palm on your first strike damage they could win before you do...
Seems like a good deck though, +1
July 24, 2015 4:41 p.m.
True DaftVader, I just have to hope it doesn't come to that haha! Thanks a lot, I appreciate it!
July 24, 2015 5:26 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #16
Why do you have Mountains listed under combos when they aren't combos? In fact ... none of these are combos, not even relevant synergies. This is why the combase is littered with junk.
August 17, 2015 3:08 p.m.
Femme_Fatale, I simply just put the chain link on them, I didn't actually put combos for myself really. I don't even know where to look for combos :P
August 17, 2015 3:33 p.m.
Femme_Fatale, obviously this is an issue in your perspective, I'm wondering what is a solution to this? There must be something I'm doing wrong?
August 17, 2015 4:59 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #19
Just don't put the "+" symbol in between card names. That denotes that the sequence of cards is a combo, which then gets uploaded to the combase, which we then have to clear. There are currently near 30k combos in the combase, probably about 70% of which are completely worthless and need to be cleared.
August 17, 2015 6:03 p.m.
I hope that fixed it up there Femme_Fatale, sorry about the misunderstanding on combos for the site!
August 17, 2015 9:55 p.m.
DarkJester187 micah1 look at it now, it grew up so well :')
August 22, 2015 8 a.m.
It's actually 1,077 damage.
Krenko, Mob Boss wasn't attacking. So:
Warren Instigator deals first strike damage, gets out krenko No. 3 for maximum damage, deals 1 more than another chieftain. (chieftain would give +32, but krenko gives +33 because of Foundry Street Denizen) So, Instigator will deal 66 damage. (33 first strike +33=64 because of the buff from the original goblin chieftain)
28 goblin tokens times 31 which is 868, plus the buff from goblin chieftain, aka 28.(868+28+66=962)
Goblin Chieftain deals 2+31=33. 962+33=995
Foundry Street Denizen deals 1+1(goblin chieftain)+31(shared animosity)+16(first krenko activation)+33(after second krenko activation, remember to count his etb trigger on Foundry), so 1+1+31+16+33=82.
82+995=1,077. There you go. Previously you didn't have a 3rd krenko, I believe, or I would have suggested that earlier. Your math is wrong in a couple places, and you made a few sub-optimal decisions.
August 22, 2015 11:09 a.m.
And I screwed it up. Same way as last time, when DarkJester187 corrected me. Shared animosity triggers for other attacking goblins. Now I have to recalculate :(
August 22, 2015 7:33 p.m.
Let's see.......
28 goblin tokens times 30 from shared animosity = 840 And bonus 28 from chieftain. 868
Goblin Chieftain deals 2 + 30 from shared animosity. 900
Warren Instigator deals 2 + 30 + 2 + 30, 964
Instigator gets out krenko on first strike, which makes 32 goblins, which is 33 entering the battlefield.
Foundry Street Denizens deals 2 + 49 + 30 1045.
It deals 1045 damage. Sorry for messing up the first time.
August 22, 2015 7:43 p.m.
lol micah1 I think I've got the math done right. I did it in a playtest while using a calculator rechecking a couple times. If you see something definitely tell me though, I want this to be the real thing once and for all! :D
Duckling says... #1
Hahah Kjartan it was initially a casual deck that I made to play with friends making them flip tables against waves of goblins, at that point it certainly wasn't close to the competitive level it is today. That is the story behind both tags, but I mean, I guess technically speaking it can be used for fun casual play and also transitioned into competitive play. :D
July 14, 2015 6:38 p.m.