Esper Walkers

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angelkreiger says... #1

I would happily add another AEtherspouts or two, any thoughts on what to take out though? And I would take End Hostilities over Crux of Fate any day. Why choose one or the other when I can just destroy all creatures?

As for Hooded Assassin, it doesn't really seem to fit well in my opinion,

February 13, 2015 1:27 p.m.

pacmanprophet says... #2

run the chain veil

February 14, 2015 11:42 p.m.

angelkreiger says... #3

That could definitely be interesting... and activating twice would seriously speed up my ability to win. Hmmm... interesting. Definitely worth play testing. Thanks :-)

Also started looking at Palace Siege's Dragon ability. Dealing damage while stabilizing myself at the same time. But my 5 drop slot is already pretty full, with End Hostilities, AEtherspouts, Liliana Vess, and Prognostic Sphinx. Can't decide if its worth cluttering up that spot even more with other options. Any thoughts there?

At this point I'm looking at cutting both copies of Jace, the Living Guildpact to add in probably 1 AEtherspouts and either a Palace Siege or The Chain Veil. Not a lot of time to play test before tomorrow, but I think these will all be positive changes.

February 15, 2015 12:19 a.m.

It looks like your game is shifting towards beating the midrange decks and siding in for the aggro decks. In my deck, I am trying to beat the midrange decks and outlast the aggro decks, with sideboard for support along with siding in against control decks or mirror. I have a couple questions, Sorin, Solemn Visitor, how is he fairing in a deck without many creatures? Liliana Vess, is she viable to have mb? How do you expect to fair against aggro without any early interaction? Your deck runs a crap ton of just straight up counterspells. And yes, Prognostic Sphinx may have it's upside compared to Jace, the Living Guildpact, but Jace offers more than just setting up your hand, his ultimate is game changing, and he still has the element of bouncing something. But I see where you are coming from with the Sphinx. I am very curious to know how Sorin does though. And by the way, Silumgar, the Drifting Death is awesome! It protects itself with virtually no downside. It's a big body in the air, and it's ability is relevant in the meta.

February 16, 2015 3:47 p.m.

angelkreiger says... #5

Sorin, Solemn Visitor tends to fair pretty well and is a great stabilizer. If there is ANYTHING else on my field he is fantastic. The lack of creatures is often solved by using Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver to just give me some of their creatures. I often don't play Sorin until turn 5 or 6 anyway, since many of my lands enter tapped and I'm busy countering things or playing ashiok on the first turns. At that point, I either have Liliana Vess to pull Elspeth, Sun's Champion, or I have Elspeth herself. I definitely feel like Liliana Vess is viable mb, making your opponent discard provides card advantage and she can neg right off the bat to pull anything you need, win-cons or board wipes or whatever else. I'm still experimenting with the Jace, the Living Guildpact-less deck and not sure it is staying that way. I was unimpressed after further playtesting The Chain Veil so at least one copy of Jace will probably be going back in that spot. Late game bouncing stuff with him and then using Liliana to make them discard is great. I'd love to test Silumgar, the Drifting Death as well, I'm really just not sure what to cut for him or if I need that extra win condition. I feel like if anything I need more draw power to find the win conditions I already have.

February 21, 2015 5:39 p.m.

Ihazadeck says... #6

since your running 2 creatures run Whelming Wave turn 4 sweeper isnt bad. i also feel you might need some more card or cheap removal. i am not control player but those are my observations, you get a plus 1 from me and if want go and check out me standard deck tell me what you think Jeskai Burn .

February 24, 2015 2:07 p.m.

angelkreiger says... #7

I like the look of Ojutai, Soul of Winter - is anybody running it and has any feedback? or suggestions of what to cut? I think I'd be happy with it as a one of, maybe in Elspeth, Sun's Champion's spot?

March 29, 2015 12:20 p.m.

ScorpioXP says... #8

Honestly, it seems to me that Ojutai seems too slow, and not able to finish out the same as Silumgar.

March 29, 2015 4:50 p.m.

angelkreiger says... #9

It's the vigilance and tap effect that makes it seem good, at least on paper. So often I find myself in positions where I can't attack because I have to block. Vigilance eliminates that problem. And because of the tap ability, Ojutai, Soul of Winter swinging effectively prevents combat damage from two creatures. The seven mana sucks though, but to me seems like it is worth play testing.

March 30, 2015 12:56 p.m.

Ertl says... #10

I like it. Have you thought about 1 of Ugin, the Spirit Dragon? I just built a mono blue deck. I am looking for criticism. Could you take a look? Elements Have you Beaten Blue?? Thanks!

April 2, 2015 8:49 a.m.

angelkreiger says... #11

Thanks. I've definitely thought about Ugin, and actually used to have two copies in the list. I cut him because of the high mana cost, and actually am hoping to play test tonight with even fewer planeswalkers. I want to move Nyx-Fleece Ram to the mainboard, and also a copy of Ojutai, Soul of Winter to see how that works. In that vein, I plan on cutting both copies of Liliana Vess and a single copy of Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver. I wouldn't mind putting Ugin back in as a one-of, any thoughts on what to cut to make a spot for him?

April 2, 2015 1:52 p.m.

OrzhovDebtor7 says... #12

Hello there! Very solid Esper deck, I quite like it +1. I myself am running an Esper deck and I have some feedback on Ojutai, Soul of Winter if you're still considering it. Don't do it. It seems good on paper like you said and I even had the same reasoning as you, it can keep too creatures at bay, but here's the problem:

  1. If you need him because they have two creatures out, you're already on your back foot this game and probably pretty badly so by turn 7

  2. Following up 1 he's a seven drop! It's truly quite unfortunate.

  3. He does not have the hexproof Silumgar and Ojutai's Dragonlord self have and there's nothing to stop a counter spell from preventing him.

  4. Going back to number 2 because of his high cmc you basically have to tap out for him which you just can't do in a deck like this.

Overall I ran him, realized why he wasn't up to par, and now I don't.

I hope this opinion helps, but it is just my opinion!

April 19, 2015 2:43 a.m.

gogogonzo says... #13

I have been playing mono red for a while. I went to FNM and played against Jeskie control. As an aggressive vs control deck, game one went great and I decided " well he is running very few creatures, so I don't really need the Frenzied Goblins ", so I sided them out. Turn two he puts down Nyx-Fleece Ram and I was completely walled out. I think it should stay in the side against aggressive strategies, I don't think it does enough to justify a mainboard slot against control mirrors or misrange strategies, both of which run copious amounts of removal, but the ram punished Agro decks for... Existing.

April 19, 2015 10:22 a.m.

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