I've made a few tweaks. Not sure whether Restoration Angel should just be something else.
September 21, 2015 8:55 a.m.
miracleHat says... #13
Smiter?
Also, are you trading/selling that goyf playset?
September 21, 2015 12:56 p.m. Edited.
Loxodon Smiter is a 4-of because our backup plan is simply to beat the opponent in the face a lot haha.
A T1 Noble Hierarch into a T2 Loxodon Smiter is at least 5 damage on the attack on T3. If you play another Noble Hierarch and a Qasali Pridemage on T3 you swing for 7 instead.
This isn't purely a combo deck. It's a midrange deck that occasionally insta-wins.
September 21, 2015 12:58 p.m.
I am not trading or selling my goyfs haha. I love them.
September 21, 2015 1:01 p.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #16
1-of PrimeTime? You could even have one Spaghettis, because you can produce 20+ mana by turn three with the combo, if for some reason the Knight plan fails.
September 21, 2015 1:32 p.m.
I can but it's fairly risky because I have no other way of casting a spaghetti. I like the Sun Titan or PrimeTime because they're castable with the combo and they're castable without - if you ramp enough. It's sort of safer in a way.
Whether I should include PrimeTime or SunTime (haha) I don't know really. Sun Titan can bring the lands back that I've previously sacrificed over and over again in order to tap down blockers. PrimeTime on the other hand can't do that but gets two lands instead of one from the library. The thing is that with the combo PrimeTime will be left without targets, whereas SunTitan won't. However PrimeTime has trample and SunTitan doesn't.
I don't know. I'm kind of leaning towards SunTime because reanimating a dead Knight of the Reliquary so that I can try swinging for 20 again is too good to pass up.
I could go -1 Restoration Angel and +1 Primeval Titan or Sun Titan, but I do want most of the deck to just be a good old 'beat you in the face' type deal.
September 21, 2015 1:49 p.m.
branston567 says... #18
I think Sun Titan is better because you're creatures contain 23 relevant targets, so he will still be useful even if you haven't gone off, plus recurring fetch lands is still powerful
September 21, 2015 1:59 p.m.
He can also recur Retreat to Coralhelm in order to start the combo, which isn't nothing.
September 21, 2015 2:02 p.m.
GeminiSpartanX says... #21
I think you can shave off a number of shocks or fetches in order to include 1-2 Gavony Township. It helps break open stalemates and can grow your guys bigger than a 5/5 Angler if needs be. Also helps reset Kitchen Finks and turns mana dorks into (better) attackers. I'd likely cut a few blue sources.
Edit: Duh, you need Plains and Forests. Maybe only 1 Township?
September 21, 2015 2:41 p.m. Edited.
I like the Sun Titan, but are we really going to hit that 6 mana reliably? Or are you going to combo it onto the board with the Retreat to Coralhelm/Knight of the Reliquary combo? I think I'd like to see another Voice of Resurgence, mostly because I think it's an underrated and under-utilized card, and also because otherwise you only have 18 non-mana dork CoCo targets, which strikes me as a bit low.
September 21, 2015 3:34 p.m.
There are multiple ways of doing it:
- Mana dorks + lands
- Retreat to Coralhelm + mana dork + fetchland: 6 mana on turn 3. (fetchland untaps mana dork multiple times).
- Retreat to Coralhelm + Knight of the Reliquary: A LOT of mana.
September 21, 2015 3:37 p.m.
GeminiSpartanX says... #24
For my education, when you search up a shockland with KotR, it enters tapped unless you pay 2 life right? If that's the case and you plan on ramping mana with the combo, maybe switching out some of the appropriate colored shocks for the battlelands/tangolands and aggressively fetching basics pre-combo would make for better combo turns?
September 21, 2015 3:51 p.m. Edited.
Yeh but them coming in tapped is absolutely fine UNLESS you want that early Sun Titan. Otherwise you just let them come in tapped and it doesn't matter. If you're aggressively using the ability then it means you're probably going to combo and win anyway.
ChiefBell says... #11
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September 21, 2015 8:53 a.m.