Red Burn

Standard x_ile

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CrapdosNoob says... #1

I think this build has too many 4-drops, considering Hazoret is the best for mono-red.

January 16, 2018 3:01 p.m.

x_ile says... #2

thanks for sharing your opinion mate, take out phoenix right ?

January 16, 2018 3:03 p.m.

CrapdosNoob says... #3

If you're trying to make Amulet work, then fine, but I would take out Amulet first or even Vance's since it's legendary.

January 16, 2018 3:05 p.m.

x_ile says... #4

My objective was to somehow, get the damage back from ramunap, I know its very residual for some people.. However, I was trying to find another way to capitalize on lands wihout changing too much of the deck, the amulet was just to flip vance's faster due to more cast possibility per turn, if I take out vance's I will for sure not use amulet probably :) thanks once again for your opinion and if you find some cool ideas, alternatives , please let me know :D

January 16, 2018 3:11 p.m.

Ryjo says... #5

Before going into Vance's Blasting Cannons  Flip and Primal Amulet  Flip, I think you have too few lands for the amount of 4 and 5 drops.

Now onto the matter of Primal Amulet  Flip, it reduces the mana or instant and sorcery spells by , then requires 4 instants and sorceries to have been cast when it is on the field to transform. Primal Amulet  Flip is a 4 drop, which means that if you want to cast it, and transform it as quickly as possible, you need to hold onto all your instants and sorceries for 4 turns, which works against the optimal play of Hazoret the Fervent. Only Abrade and Lightning Strike get a reduction from them, which means you're impeding the best card in your deck (Hazoret) for a slight cost reduction for 6 total cards (8 if you count the Abrades in the sideboard. Then, best case scenario, after flipping the Amulet, you have 6 instants to Fork. So I don't think the Amulet is worth it.

Vance's Blasting Cannons  Flip, on the other hand might be worth inclusion in the deck. While it also requires you to play in a manner counter-intuitive to Hazoret, it generates virtual card advantage with its impulsive draw. It can help you draw into Hazoret, or help you get the three cards needed to flip it. It also allows you to Open Fire on your opponent, helping to replace the damage Ramunap Ruins dealt over the game. As opposed to Primal Amulet  Flip, Vance's Blasting Cannons  Flip should be easy to flip, and grants you additional reach to hit your opponent. I think the Cannons will be worth the slots in your deck.

Now, Rekindling Phoenix could be a good inclusion in the deck. It flies, so it should be able to get damage in; it resists non-exile based removal, but Hazoret does as well, though it could replace Glorybringer from the sideboard if your meta is full or removal; it offers an unusual play pattern, if your opponent tries to exile it, you can Lightning Strike or Abrade it in response and get it back later. The only downside I see, is that it, when summoned, lacks the magical keyword that makes this deck tick. If it had haste to begin with, it would be a slam dunk, but I think it still merits a position somewhere in the 75.

TL;DR Vance's Blasting Cannons  Flip and Rekindling Phoenix seem good enough for this deck, Primal Amulet  Flip is more likely to cost you games than win them for you.

January 17, 2018 8:23 p.m. Edited.

x_ile says... #6

First of all, thanks so much for the thoughts on the deck Ryjo You gave me a whole new perspective on Primal Amulet  Flip, as I have been struggling to find a place for it, not even with the clear number of Fork effect you shown, I also thought that would be very situational and even more residual than the whole goal, plus "what to take out" in order to not mess up with ramp as hinted by CrapdosNoob. So thanks for that for that 1!As for Vance's Blasting Cannons  Flip ,I think I will run 2 copy's for now seems good!

Rekindling Phoenix I get how we should "protect it" so to speak, will try it out.

Once again,thanks for your time!

January 17, 2018 8:59 p.m.

Atroxreaper says... #7

I do like it but feel mana is low without treasure enablers or 24 land. If you wanted to include primal amulet I'd run Hungry Flames and potentially go spell heavy red with magma spray, abrade and fiery cannonade main deck.

January 17, 2018 10:48 p.m.

Atroxreaper says... #8

Kari Zev's Expertise plays well with Hazorets favor.

January 17, 2018 10:51 p.m.

x_ile says... #9

Atroxreaper Thanks for the suggestions!

When it comes to mana, I know what you mean, the thing is that I'm short in space. And card odds, as well as hand trying feels that at max, it might just take 1 mulligan or 2, but I am for sure looking at it closely.

Since Primal Amulet  Flip goes for 4, I think it will not make it in the deck.As for Hungry Flames I will consider it since I like the fact it has damage to the face, sadly I do not have them to try it right away

What I really like is Kari Zev's Expertise would love to find a place for it as its only 3 cmc. however I do not have them to try it out as well, but can get them easily .

Thanks for your time ! you also have good decks man ! cheers

January 18, 2018 7:55 a.m.

beast_of_war says... #10

Captain Lannery Storm is really good for 3 cmc. You get a few treasures out and you have a bit of extra mana. Also, Fanatical Firebrand is a very relevant 1 drop. Tilonalli's Summoner is also good in side for later game. If you wanna run the Blasting cannon, for mana issues, i would consider 3 copies of Storm, though.

February 25, 2018 10:42 p.m.

SirChris39 says... #11

July 26, 2019 8:17 a.m.

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