Taxation without Representation

Commander / EDH MistaMint

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Feb. 9, 2014

Mostly finished, cards acquired. Just tweaking it now

jesteric says... #1

Griselbrand is banned in EDH.

January 24, 2014 11:28 p.m.

MistaMint says... #2

jesteric Yes, so it's a good thing I don't play where that matters

January 26, 2014 4:25 a.m.

canuckkat says... #3

No Oloro?

February 1, 2014 3:13 p.m.

namesallgone says... #4

February 1, 2014 3:22 p.m.

namesallgone says... #5

Ha, just saw it in the maybe board, my bad

February 1, 2014 3:23 p.m.

MistaMint says... #6

namesallgone Yeah, the maybes are all cards I think will go in it but don't have yet

February 1, 2014 3:38 p.m.

MistaMint says... #7

canuckkat That's right, no Oloro, Ageless Ascetic , seeing as that would change the colours of the deck and what I want to do

February 1, 2014 3:41 p.m.

Tata says... #8

I think you should heed jesteric's remark. It's banned for a reason (like the other, very FEW cards banned in EDH). It's broken, like Panoptic Mirror or Prime Time. These cards are banned because they hurt the game experience for everyone. Following "the rules" doesn't mean you're playing strict, competitive, non-casual magic; it just means you accept and respect the format. Griselbrand is too good in a format with 40-life starting, and it's unreasonable to think other players would allow you to play it.

I think you could replace Seraph of Dawn with something better. How about Restoration Angel to blink Ashen Rider or Gray Merchant of Asphodel ?

I also don't think you play enough tokens to justify Intangible Virtue .

Also, have you considered Path to Exile and Swords to Plowshares ?

I think you could improve your mana-ramping with some more mana rocks/land-cycling cards.

You could also add a few utility lands like Tectonic Edge . Have you considered Caves of Koilos ?

February 2, 2014 7:42 p.m.

MistaMint says... #9

Tata Where I play is a very casual environment, with people that I know. And one of the important things about playing magic with people that you know is that you don't do things that are cheap/broken/annoying as they will no longer want to play against you anymore. That being said, Griselbrand is only as broken as the person using it. He's not the win condition in this deck. I'm not racing to get him onto the field as fast as possible. I'm not trying to dump him in the graveyard to cheat him in. And I'd much rather tutor for one of my win conditions instead of him. The reason he is in the deck is flavour. He fits in with the demons, and he fits in with the lifelink theme. I'm not going to be playing him and using my massive life total to pick through my deck because that's just not fun. However, should I be low on cards you can be sure that I'll be drawing seven more. On top of that, it's hardly a resilient card, it can be removed a number of ways and obviously makes a big target of itself once it hits the field. For these reasons, this is why it's staying in the deck and I won't be addressing further comments about it. I feel I've explained my reasoning and can use him without him being "broken".

Now, as to the other cards, I honestly haven't looked through the lands yet to see what I'd like to put in but obviously have a lot of room to add them, so any suggestions on those I'll consider for sure.

As good as Path to Exile and Swords to Plowshares are, I'm trying to stay away from too much spot removal. Getting a one time use on one creature doesn't have the benefit I'd like to see. Trying to use more mass removal to get around protection and regeneration.

Admittedly, Seraph of Dawn is rather weak, but fits in with the angel and lifelink thing going on. I was thinking of subbing it with Unburial Rites but Restoration Angel is a definite maybe. I used to have two, and if I still do I'll probably out one in, but I don't think I'll buy one

February 3, 2014 11:09 a.m.

Tata says... #10

Resto went down in price, big-time. I think it's only about 4 $, which is awesome.

Though you say you won't address further comments, I'd like to point out that " should I be low on cards you can be sure that I'll be drawing seven more" is THE reason why Griselbrand is broken in EDH. I wouldn't play someone if they ran Griselbrand for this very reason. And like you, I play my friends in casual environments.

I know what you mean about 1-for-1ing with spot removal in EDH. Unless you can generate significant card advantage, it really isn't very good. However, you are running Mortify, so you do at least understand that SOME cards must be destroyed at the cost of a 1-for-1. That's why path, swords, etc, are there to deal with huge threats that must be answered immediately.

Some cards you could consider cutting:

Ring of Thune

The vigilance isn't that wonderful, and the counter every turn is merely decent. I'd replace it with a much better card. You run Vindicate , so I assume you're not too tightly constrained by a budget. Why not get one of the swords to replace this ring?

Altar's Reap

Too situational for too small an advantage. Why not run Read the Bones if you want card advantage? Or Phyrexian Arena or Underworld Connections ? Altar's Reap is like spot removal; it's basically a 1-for-1, or more technically a 2-for-2. Why not get a card that generates continuous card advantage?

February 3, 2014 12:33 p.m.

Tata says... #11

Some lands: Tectonic Edge vs other badass lands. Caves of Koilos for mana-fixing, Forbidding Watchtower for manland, Spawning Pool for manland, Strip Mine vs other badass lands, Reliquary Tower maybe not for your deck, Cavern of Souls name angels I guess, High Market sac outlet if you wanna be more reanimator , Volrath's Stronghold is awesome, Thawing Glaciers is very good mana ramp, Haunted Fengraf is decent, Buried Ruin is decent, Tower of the Magistrate vs voltron generals with equipment.

February 3, 2014 12:46 p.m.

MistaMint says... #12

Tata it occurs to me that after all this about griselbrand, that I probably ditched him with the resto angels so it's not even an issue lol

February 3, 2014 6:07 p.m.