Grand Summoning [T3 Omniscience | Iona | Emrakul]

Modern Nevetz1911

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davebot says... #1

I think this is awesome. I have considered using manifest, but have not seriously looked into the mechanical interaction with other cards - so thanks for doing that. If you wanted to play this in vintage (my meta is a group of friends and we use vintage as house rule, but don't really play vintage archtypes) what would you add, remove, ore replace?Thanks in advance

June 19, 2015 1:12 p.m.

davebot says... #2

to answer my own question - Dual lands would be good

June 19, 2015 1:13 p.m.

davebot says... #3

with that said - do you mulligan until you get a green mana producer?

June 19, 2015 1:13 p.m.

Nevetz1911 says... #4

Hey davebot. I think that having 8 mana lands in a 60-cards deck should give you at least one of these lands. I think in the case I'll need more lands, just to add City of Brass in 2x or even 4x. The more serious problem is having Birds of Paradise. They aren't really needed for the combo itself, but they speed it up of one turn. It's quite of a gamble to play this deck, it's actually only been theorycrafted for now, but I assume it could work quite well.

June 19, 2015 2:41 p.m.

thehat says... #5

I approve of this concept and will attempt to make this with a more threat dense build. I wanted to add more endgame to a bant flash deck I built and I think this is the concept I was looking for.

+1 from me.

June 19, 2015 2:42 p.m.

thehat says... #6

I went pretty hard on this. This is my first draft:


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June 19, 2015 6:22 p.m.

McMayhem says... #7

Why not play Cloudform at least as a two-of? Lightform seems better out of the board tbh, as the lifelink is relevant in very few matchups imo.

June 20, 2015 1:43 a.m.

Nevetz1911 says... #8

McMayhem Ah yes, very good find, I didn't see in it my research and it's definitively better.

June 20, 2015 4:28 a.m.

thehat says... #9

Might I suggest Mystic Speculation over Index? Doesn't dig quite as hard but has the potential of being repeatable.

June 20, 2015 11:23 a.m.

Treffy says... #10

"Flip tutored bad guy or even Time Stretch..."
I'm not quite sure if I'm misunderstanding this or not (not sure if you meant try that), but you can't flip up a Manifested Time Stretch. Once you exile it and it leaves the battlefield, the Manifest effect ends. At that point, Time Stretch is an exiled Sorcery card. Then the Blink effect attempts to put it back on the field, but it can't, as it's not a permanent. Hence it stays exiled.
It's not being cast so it's not going on the stack, nor is it being put back into your hand - it simply stays exiled.

June 21, 2015 8:19 a.m.

Nevetz1911 says... #11

Caechus You may be right, but anyway nor Omniscience nor Time Stretch are actually needed to win, they are just there as first non-creature strong cards I've come into.

June 21, 2015 12:21 p.m.

Alaztyr says... #12

In the case of an instant or sorcery that was manifested and flickered itll just stay in exile because face-up instants and soceries cant exist on the battlefield. Time Stretch cannot work.

June 24, 2015 1:32 p.m.

Yeah, Time Stretch will stay exiled once blinked from a manifest. Omniscience would come back to play though, I believe. Time Stretch could be devastating once Omni is out, but I feel like Enter the Infinite would be better. Drawing all of your finishers would be better than taking two extra turns. Especially since Emrakul gives you an extra turn anyway to shake off that summoning sickness. See Beyond might also help dig through your deck, as well as put back a drawn Eldrazi or whatever you want to be back in your deck. Awesome deck idea though, +1 from me.

June 24, 2015 1:39 p.m.

frogkill45 says... #14

Quicksilver Amulet, Elvish Piper, or any land with hideaway

June 24, 2015 1:41 p.m.

Treffy says... #15

Omniscience would indeed return back onto the field. Only permanents can exist on the battlefield, hence only permanents come back.

June 24, 2015 2:30 p.m.

ManaTitheGuy says... #16

Cool deck concept. I have a morph version of this in the making. This is the first good use of manifest I have seen yet. How does this fair against mill/discard + Surgical Extraction or similar combos? As crovax mentioned I also might recommend See Beyond this card is handy in the event you are holding an important piece and no way to discard it. Not that it would be very unique but you could always side in Polymorph or Mass Polymorph and swap your Birds of Paradise for your fatties if the manifest thing goes south. This is a slight twist of the polymorph deck I used to run. I can say from experience the combos are very fragile. You are susceptible to deck/hand manipulation as well as dispel. You have no way to protect your investment.You should run or side some counters of sorts Dispel, Mana Leak, Boseiju, Who Shelters All is a great land to run in these types of decks. Hope that helps. +1

June 24, 2015 3:37 p.m.

I really like the idea of shifting this to a Polymorph deck, post-board. It would definitely need a reworking, with things like Timely Reinforcements, and all the blink cards would probably be useless, but it could be an interesting build separate from this one. I used to run a Mass Polymorph deck as well, and it is extremely fun. Think of a turn 3 Timely Reinforcements into a turn 4 Polymorph which would snag an Emrakul or Iona. Tough to recover from that if you're on the opposite side of the battlefield. :)

June 24, 2015 3:48 p.m.

CheeseBro says... #18

you sir, are truly creative

June 24, 2015 3:52 p.m.

CheeseBro says... #19

also, no love for Kozilek, Butcher of Truth?

June 24, 2015 3:53 p.m.

DarkLaw says... #20

Wait. How did I not see this before? +1

June 24, 2015 4:35 p.m.

Nevetz1911 says... #21

CheeseBro Kozilek has no protection nor indestructibility, and since Eldrazis aren't casted in this way, I'd leave it out.

Thank you all for the interest!

June 24, 2015 6:30 p.m.

frogkill45 says... #22

June 24, 2015 6:38 p.m.

The_Raven says... #23

Iona... On turn 3?

I went a more controlly road. I like your deck. I need to playtest it, to see how it really works!

June 25, 2015 3:11 a.m.

Nevetz1911 says... #24

Hey everyone. I've been reading all your comments and soon I'll update the deck with all your ideas and suggestions. Thank you again!

June 25, 2015 3:21 a.m.

Mooer says... #25

Why not try Restoration Angel or Flickerwisp? That way Congregation at Dawn can search out your flicker spell if you don't have Cloudshift or Momentary Blink in hand.

June 25, 2015 11:28 a.m.

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