Hey, thanks for this awesome list! I was curious why you're running Wood Elves over other options like the Lotus Cobra or Priest of Titania. I have Yavimaya Dryad in mine, but was planning on taking it out with upgrades.

Also wondering about your thoughts on something like Skyshroud Claim or the one drop ramps such as Wild Growth or Utopia Sprawl which seem like safe options, though they don't thin and might make your lands targets.

Dunadain Sylvan Ranger and GCV effectively let me play 6 basic lands which is very useful. I'm not a huge fan of 2cmc ramp, and the Beastcaller requires me to spend the mana on creature spells - not the ideal restriction. If I was to cut the two "land-trip" creatures, I would be cutting a couple more things, adding land, and probably be playing Lotus Cobra.The Dash/Evoke cards did not feel good in practice. I haven't tried the Vaultbreaker, he has a good effect, but I'm not sure the surge to 5 is worth 3 and the combat step. You have to remember - we also need 3 colors to cast Prossh, just getting to 6 mana isn't enough.

I'm playing City over Dosan because the City turns off activated abilities (ie Yisan and his Caustic Caterpillar) and Dosan does not.

Frank_Glascock No problem, I like to help.
If I needed more removal I'd add Fire Covenant Dismember Reclamation Sage or Natural State based on what the needs were. But generally I think FCP does better going fast then it does going interactive.

Summoner's Pact is usually getting a wincon, it doesn't really matter which. Current favorite green wincon in the deck is Selvala, Heart of the Wilds. Although the best one is actually Genesis Hydra, because its on-cast trigger is hard to interact with.

GSZ 99% of the time is Dryad Arbor, and Goblin Matron gets Goblin Bushwhacker.

4vatarofSleep Wood Elves finds any type of Forest and puts it into play untapped, which makes it much better then the Yavimaya Druid. Priest of Titania is a 2cmc (slow) and conditional mana dork and I try to avoid 2cmc "tap" ramp. Lotus Cobra is a tech card that makes the list in other metagames, but it's not appropriate for my current 28 land build (anti-bloodmoon with 6 basic lands: 2 regular, 2 snow covered, and the 2 land-trip creatures).

Skyshroud Claim is much too slow for ramp at 4 mana, and it's not a creature so you can't exile it to Food Chain to use as a ritual creature. Wild Growth and Utopia Sprawl are fine speed-wise at 1 mana, but they don't exile to Food Chain so they're much worse then mana dorks; and the deck doesn't need more 1cmc acceleration pieces.

Thanks angel, I hadn't thought about colour restrictions, and city makes sense now

Dunadain I do have a Prossh variant I'm working on that plays those accelerators - FFFCP

Angelforge, any more thoughts on replacing Xantid Swarm? Would this card be a good placeholder for meta calls? A graveyard hate card, Beast Within or Gamble all seem better. I know all have been discussed recently.

Angelforge?

Frank_Glascock: Angelforge wasn't on reddit for 2 weeks either. Maybe he is on vacation. :)

Frank_Glascock Xantid Swarm is a meta call card for sure. Other cards I would consider 'meta slots' are Goblin Bombardment, City of Solitude, Sylvan Ranger and Gatecreeper Vine for different ramp things (or extra lands), and some of the heavily redundant safety tech (Treasured Find, Guttural Response).

Sometimes I get logged out of TappedOut, and I don't notice it, and then I don't have any notifications pop up. You can usually bump me on Reddit and I'll reply (no guarentees).

Why not Reckless Bushwhacker over Goblin Bushwhacker? The reckless goblin costs the same to cast (but is less dependant on red), is tutorable by the matron, can be grabbed by machinations, has the added benefit of actually costing 3 and can generate 4 mana for 2 if it is fed to the chain, and has a larger front end if you have to go beatdown with him. Overall it seems like a better card than it's predecessor, and the surge cost will never not be met if he is used as a win condition.

darkark12 I am running them both. You always want the pair - otherwise Goblin Matron gets a decent whiff chance after a Demonic Consultation.

Thanks for the list man, it looks awesome!! I'm going to use this to tune my deck better, except for obvious meta changes.

So, I totally missed that you were running both whackers.

I have been experimenting with the Bubblehulk win condition with some great success. The combo calls for one 'bad' card in the form of mikaeus, however you also get another 'kinda' win condition in the form of walking ballista. Now, by itself it sounds really, really, terribly bad, but after my buddy conned me into trying it, I think I am sold. (just FYI I run backup twin altars eartcraft so I don't get grasped out of the game)

On paper it is bad, but in practice, it actually increases the number of lines you can take. It allows for you to turn summoner's pact into another imperial recruiter (that chain of recruiter, matron, whacker for the colors) by getting eternal witness into fierce empath into hulk. It also allows for you to play super passive and search out the hulk at your leisure, and force your opponents to counter your big green monster even when they don't want to. The ballista is also great at sniping titania's the turn before they tap.

It is also worth mentioning that walking ballista can kill the table with FC by just casting it for a billion and not using his abilities. It seems risky, but if the combo is happening, it is probably gonna be good.

Do you think Eternal Scourge would work well in this deck? It has helped me out of a couple binds.

How often do you have Food Chain destroyed and would like to have the game closed at that turn instead of waiting to recover the card from the graveyard?

Would Yeva, Nature's Herald be helpful? It would be possible to exile the kobolds, flash her and keep casting Prossh in response. Some of the wincons would still be viable after Food Chain is gone but you have the mana and the tokens.

I think the effect provided by Yeva, Nature's Herald is useful, but you don't really have 4 extra mana in your combo turn unless you wait 1-2 extra turns to combo. Waiting usually isn't a good approach, this deck is much better at simply winning as fast as possible and before everyone else is set up.

I was wondering why you run skullmuncher here versus reki, the history of kamigawa. It would seem that they do the same for you, but skullmuncher hurts you less off of an ad nauseam.

And why do you choose the spirit guides versus the priests or burning-tree emissary? They seem better since they net much more off food chain.

Skullmulcher can't be stopped by Swords to Plowshares. This deck is hard to stop via spot removal, but relying on Reki would make it more vulnerable.

Zenaku17 I like it but I never found it a useful tutor target. It's definitely something I don't mind opening with. I don't think you're wrong if you choose to run it.

Rocco_Bellini It happens but that's life with this deck! I think waiting a couple extra turns to have mana for Food Chain and Yeva would be worse then simply trying to go off and looking for a tutor - in the early game it's less likely that they'll have it, and it's a lot more dangerous to hold up mana for interaction instead of developing your board.

4vatarofSleep Ezmed has it correct on the spot removal. If you need a budget wincon, it's certainly reasonable. I like drawing cards.

Emzed Thank you for answering people's questions! I agree with pretty much everything you write. I have not been very active in MTG lately but I'm hoping to start getting games in again soon.

4vatarofSleep BTE vs the Spirit Guides

They make mana a turn earlier. I really like BTE though, if I wasn't in love with my basic land arts I would probably play it over Sylvan Ranger. Well, the art and the amount of Blood Moons I used to fight. You're certainly not wrong to play it, or any of the similar creatures if it fits your meta.

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angelforge: Welcome back! :)

As a follow up to the ritual creature discussion: in what matchups do they shine/in what kind of a meta would you consider them? When there is little control/disruption and speed is most important?

In a similar note under what circumstances would you include Devoted Druid and Lotus Cobra from the maybeboard?

Selvala, Heart of the Wilds will not only ramp you but will also draw infinite cards when you combo with Food Chain if there isn't a creature with 5 power or greater.

MB, you already have it. for some reason i didn't see it on your list.

Any thoughts on running any form of protean hulk combos?

@ZurBlue Actually with Selvala it doesn't matter if there is a bigger creature on board because the ability only checks the power as it resolves so you can just pump Prossh in response to make him arbitrarily large.