I approve of the inclusion of the Praetor's. Can I ask why Elvish Mystic and Llanwar Elves over Birds? Also, maybe graveyard recurions like Seasons Past etc, also maybe Farseek for the Shock lands and ramp.
October 24, 2016 11:55 p.m.
mintyfreshmana says... #3
I do have one recommendation - Thrummingbird - has a decent chance of triggering and pretty good value IMO
October 25, 2016 12:08 a.m.
PookandPie says... #4
The costs of this deck are cripplingly high; it would not be unsurprising for this deck to do nothing until the fourth turn. I would assume you'd like to spend your first few turns ramping, but your costs are a little high on a lot of your ramp cards.
You have Overgrown Tomb, Temple Garden, and Breeding Pool, so I see no issue with Farseek so you can more easily drop a 4 mana Planeswalker or Collective Restraint on the third turn. Similarly, Nature's Lore could be a good choice as well. Lore puts the land onto the battlefield untapped while Sylvan Scying puts it into your hand- the only case in which Scrying works better is when you only have sources of green mana, and no other colors, as it lets you get Arcane Sanctum. However, that issue can easily be addressed by improving your mana base a bit.
I have no idea why you're running Panoramas. There are a lot of lands that come in tapped, and these require you invest mana in them in order to get them to produce a color which slows you down even further if you need colored mana (which, you will. Lots of your Planeswalkers have double colored costs). I strongly feel the mana base needs a strong shakeup in order to work efficiently as a whopping 12 of your lands come in tapped (counting Expanse and Wilds), and even more if you don't have the proper lands on field already.
I recommend removing the Panoramas. Run Command Tower- it's the best land you're not running. Mana Confluence and City of Brass are well worth it- yes, they hurt you, but this is a 40 life format and being able to play your cards on curve is better than maintaining a couple random life points. Those 3 slots will help you reach your mana color requirements properly.
After that, I'd recommend dropping the Temples. All of them. Coming in tapped and only producing two colors isn't worth scrying. Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth would easily solve any black color requirements your deck may have, so it should be an inclusion for sure. With the Praetors you're running, I'd recommend Forbidden Orchard, which produces the mana you need while also creating tokens to use Defense of the Heart. Imagine an opponent tripping Heart and you tutoring out both Jin-Gitaxias and Elesh Norn, lol. Exotic Orchard could be very, very useful here as well, unless you play with 3 opponents who are all mono red (that's sarcasm, run Exotic Orchard). Lands like Brushland, Adarkar Wastes, etc., could be valuable as well, but you do need some more things that come in untapped even if they hurt you a little. Alternatively, you could add in Flooded Strand, Wooded Foothills, or Bloodstained Mire to fetch out your shocks or basics.
Also, creatures that produce more than 1 color of mana can help. Birds of Paradise >>> Llanowar Elves/Elvish Mystic in this deck, by far. Run Fellwar Stone for mana production over the other, since you will probably need a color other than green instead of an additional green mana, as you only have two cards that require double green in the entire deck.
Also, run The Chain Veil. It's really good- better than Contagion Engine by far. What's better than getting an additional counter on all of your Planeswalkers? Getting their ability an extra time and getting an extra counter. Yeah, I know, Engine can neuter one player's creatures a bit, but in a 4+ person game, that's usually not as important as people make it out to be (actually, I recommend removing Primeval Protector for The Chain Veil, but I just wanted to make a point about how absurdly good it is in these kinds of decks. It was literally made for them).
Reprisal could just be Putrefy, Path to Exile, Beast Within, Bant Charm, etc..
This post has probably gone on too long. So... hope it helps. Check out my decks if you need any ideas, blah blah, you know the typical thing. Have a good one!
October 25, 2016 12:16 a.m.
StaticVoid says... #5
Thank you Vininn126, mintyfreshmana, and especially PookandPie, I have taken your suggestions and added them to the deck.
October 25, 2016 12:43 a.m.
mintyfreshmana says... #6
I have one more - I'm a big fan of Call the Gatewatch in superfriends because you can fetch a specific Planeswalker, may be good if you need a particular Walker. Also Liliana, the Last Hope is absolutely fantastic if you can get your hands on one.
October 25, 2016 11:43 a.m.
mintyfreshmana says... #7
One more! Ajani Steadfast is almost necessary. The +1 is meh but the loyalty counter ramp and ult are fantastic.
October 25, 2016 11:48 a.m.
StaticVoid says... #8
mintyfreshmana Ajani Steadfast is too slow, and his +1 is so week in this deck that I won't even consider him.
Call the Gatewatch is an ok card, I will probably find somewhere to throw it in.
and lastly Liliana, the Last Hope there's a reason LotV isn't in this deck, and that's because these cards are bombs in Modern & Standard, but I don't feel they have as much of an impact in EDH as those formats.
October 25, 2016 12:06 p.m.
cookincats says... #9
i had the same idea for a deck, i was already running child of alara superfriends but after she was spoiled i dropped the red for her, as she was clearly better heres my take on it
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/supa-friends-v2/
October 25, 2016 2:41 p.m.
cookincats says... #10
another thing i have to say is add the new card deepglow skate as its just pure valuehttp://mythicspoiler.com/c16/cards/deepglowskate.html
October 25, 2016 2:47 p.m.
while I agree with vorinclex, gitaxis, and probably norn, why sheoldred? She reanimates, which is something that doesn't seem incredibly useful when about 7% of your deck is creatures, less if you don't count her herself.
October 25, 2016 4:05 p.m.
StaticVoid says... #12
cookincats Yes that card is absolutely ridiculous in this deck. Use it on a Tamiyo, Field Researcher and win the game.
bellsore Come on man, gotta stick to the lore. And while her reanimation ability is pretty meh, her forcing each player to sacrifice creatures is pretty deece as long as you aren't against token decks, which aren't very heavy in my meta.
October 25, 2016 4:16 p.m.
u could easily replace some of these cards with alternative versions of them. for example vindicate can come out for anguished unmaking which is essentially an instant speed vindicate - the LD could take out a removal spell for beast within which replaces ur LD drop and hits anything at instant also instead of call the gatewatch demonic tutor is strictly better.
heres my list I came up with still tweaking here and therehttp://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-new-superfriends/
October 27, 2016 7:59 a.m.
for lands i'd suggest Tendo Ice Bridge and Aether Hub as they synergize with proliferate.
I've made a rough decklist myself and it's located here if you want to check mana base etc
You Compleat Me
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October 28, 2016 5:38 p.m.
iancoffey97 says... #15
With Jace, Unraveler of Secrets in your deck, I would run Rule of Law.
November 1, 2016 8:22 p.m.
StaticVoid says... #16
iancoffey97 Wow, that's a really good idea. Definitely a wincon!
November 4, 2016 3:29 p.m.
Spore_Frog says... #17
I like the Praetors in this deck! Utility and flavor. :) I couldn't bear to take Sheoldred out of my Meren, though, and I don't have the others yet, so... I noticed you didn't leave in the Deepglow Skate. Just no room?
December 5, 2016 8:19 p.m.
StaticVoid says... #18
MerenOfClanNelToth i built this list before Skate was spoiled. I just haven't updated it.
December 5, 2016 8:30 p.m.
Spore_Frog says... #19
Ahh, I see. Atraxa is just hard to go wrong with. Unfortunately, this means she is everywhere. :/
December 5, 2016 8:37 p.m.
StaticVoid says... #20
MerenOfClanNelToth yes she definately is powerful in any shell.
On the first day of C16 being out my LGS ran out of Atraxa decks
December 5, 2016 8:45 p.m.
Spore_Frog says... #21
Same with my LGS, but I had pre-ordered mine with them, so I was able to obtain it. There is a lot of synergy to work with right in the pre-con.
December 5, 2016 8:48 p.m.
NivMizzetProdigy says... #22
I got lucky, a friend of mine sold me his Atraxa deck for $35 3 months after C16 was released. Anyhow, nice deck but how do you protect the planeswalkers from the rush of creatures? Your deck runs few creatures and only two board wipes. May I suggest a Animation Module? It has served me well and I'll even go as far as if I see it in my opening hand I know I'm winning my pod.
Atraxa the counted one
Commander / EDH
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August 23, 2017 1:17 a.m.
Meghatron714 says... #23
Just a few suggestions for more control since youre playing superfriends...Day of Judgment, Path to Exile, Final Judgement, Life's Finale, Humility, Sudden Spoiling
mintyfreshmana says... #1
My thoughts exactly on superfriends, can't wait for these to drop! Nice deck list :)
October 24, 2016 11:32 p.m.