Competitive Fate Reforged U/B Control
Standard*
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Standard91 says... #2
I am making a blue black control because of the mass removal spell.
January 5, 2015 12:42 p.m.
Standard91 says... #3
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/29-12-14-blueblack-control/Is my version
January 5, 2015 12:50 p.m.
Standard91 says... #4
Have you thought of Palace Siege alway's pick dragon
January 5, 2015 1:13 p.m.
Hummm if it would've been indestructible it would've been awesome. People are all preparing for Whip of Erebos and Jeskai Ascendancy decks with Banishing Light, Erase, Back to Nature, Sultai Charm and Negate. Plus I'd rather play the sphinx, he's a body that can possibly block and he forces the opponent to spend mana on it.
January 5, 2015 3:23 p.m.
Nice build, I have a similar build Big Snake Control :)
Now that Crux of Fate is here we don't need the Perilous Vault anymore! But I mainboarded 1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon because it doesnt only exile everything in standard (8 is the highest permanent mana cost), it is also a win-con, lifegainer and cardadvantage
I sideboarded the new dragon Silumgar, the Drifting Death but you made some very valid points for putting him in the main. I think I'll also play 1 Pearl Lake Ancient and 1 Silumgar, the Drifting Death
I also mainboarded 2 Monastery Siege and playtesting showed that the extra draw was very useful. Also because of the looting, you get more fuel for Dig Through Time + I have 1 Empty the Pits that also benefits greatly from this.
Take a look at my deck and tell me what you think
+1!
January 6, 2015 10:42 a.m.
chuckles2000 says... #8
I like it. Working on a similar one myself. Not sold on the MD Drown in Sorrow. Seems like a blank sometimes. I also feel like 4 Digs is too many. I don't have the fetches so I might be wrong, but it feels like too many to me. I am also running some green for Caryatid. It's a stretch on the mana base for the early drops, but it does smooth it out for the doubles of Downfall, Dissolve. Plus it gets me to 5 and 6 earlier or for double spells earlier.
January 6, 2015 7:49 p.m.
Hey chuckles2000, thanks for the comment!
Drown in Sorrow is indeed a blank sometimes, and a blank at all times against midrange decks, that's why its only a 2 of. I highly anticipate Jeskai to take over the meta, that is why I run it MB. I'm not sold on it either though... Maybe run the full set of Bile Blight and have a spot for something else, maybe a counter or an ashiok?
January 6, 2015 8:05 p.m.
notamardybum says... #10
new card spoiled reality shift. could be solid in place of drown in sorrow
January 6, 2015 8:44 p.m.
Drown answers jeskai tokens, rabblemaster, hornet queen, early heroic, and lots of the pain-in-the-ass weenies. It's well worth MD slots since those cards are so popular it can give us an advantage in slowing an opponent down, giving us time, and taking game 1, which can easily mean the match. I often find it even more valuable than Blight, but not quite worth the slots.
January 6, 2015 9:31 p.m.
notamardybum, I'm not sure it's worth a Drown spot since Drown takes care of Hornet Queen, Goblin Rabblemaster, and all their tokens, as well as Battlewise Hoplite and other heroes (before they get too big)... so we still need it.
I use Bile Blight a lot for tokens when Drown isn't in hand, so I'd gladly give up 1/4 Blight for this guy, myself, over 1/2 Drown... but this isn't my deck :)
Whereas I'm not a big fan of Crux, I'd use one of those slots ideally. Crux doesn't deal with Bloodsoaked Champion, Ashcloud Phoenix, and actually helps (potentially) dredge/reanimator/delve decks.
January 6, 2015 9:39 p.m.
notamardybum says... #13
im not saying dont play drown, just not in the main.
January 6, 2015 9:43 p.m.
I check into your deck often to see how it's being changed, as I wish to make a deck similar to it in the near future. What do you think of Tasigur, the Golden Fang? He's an efficient card with delve, and you gain card advantage every turn. Even if your opponent gets to pick what card it is, you give them limited options anyway because of murderous cuts, dig through time, etc.
January 6, 2015 9:44 p.m.
What thewyzman said.
I'm not sure if you're trolling notamardybum? How in the world would Reality Shift replace Drown in Sorrow, it's completely the opposite! DIS is one card that deals with more than 1, hence giving us card advantage. It's used against 1/1s and 2/2s. Reality Shift is a card that makes us have to spend another removal card, giving us card disadvantage, and why would I want to turn a 2/2 into a 2/2 lol ?
January 6, 2015 9:46 p.m.
notamardybum says... #16
you can play 4 drown in sorrow in the sideboard. 4 bile blight main and 1 reality strike. i never suggested you exile a 2/2 for a 2/2. how about exiling a resolved siege rhino, sarkahn, stormbreath dragon, etc. you said it yourself drown in sorrow is a dead draw against midrange. tokens decks aren't the only decks being played. if you disagree thats fine.
January 6, 2015 10 p.m.
@ zes
Well Tasigur, the Golden Fang fits in a completely different deck, a one with...more creatures :P.
It synergizes well with Sidisi, Brood Tyrant and Whip of Erebos, making Sultai whip even deadlier midgame! Delve everything but the few creatures you want the opponent to choose, cast a 4/5 for 3 or less mana, draw the card. Sidisi on the board? Make zombie tokens and draw a card. No creatures to whip back? Pay 4, put some into your graveyard.
A very nice addition to Sultai whip !
January 6, 2015 10:01 p.m.
He can return removal, counters, or additional card draw, doesn't need to be creatures.
January 6, 2015 10:04 p.m.
But then I'd have to remove a 2/2, using two cards for 1...
It's true, it's a dead draw and jeskai token decks are not the only thing in the meta. However, control needs to have an array of answers, I can't go all out midrange hunting and get pounded by aggro decks. The deck needs to be balanced, adjusted to the meta and have a chance against all archetypes. Reality Shift would be a dead draw against aggro... I mean, it's a control deck, it's a reactive strategy not a proactive one. The game plan is: adjust to the opponent's strategy and control the board state, not pound him down, or survive to turn 4 and play big threats, ramp into big creatures, pull off a combo...
''There's no such thing as a wrong threat, but there are wrong answers''. A control deck will never be perfect game 1.
Sorry if I offended you, I really thought you were comparing Drown in Sorrow with Reality Shift.
January 6, 2015 10:13 p.m.
zes oh read too fast... Still a good card, if not better.
January 6, 2015 10:14 p.m.
@ Standard91, notamardybum, zes, thewyzman, rob1nb
I have made some important changes to my deck and would like to have your opinions on them.
The 2 PLA win con.
3 Crux of Fate and 2 Perilous Vault mix.
No more Drown in Sorrow but 4 Bile Blight.
2 Divination, one less Dig Through Time and one less Jace's Ingenuity.
Thanks guys!
January 8, 2015 5:01 p.m.
I think Crux of Fate and Perilous Vault mix will depend on how the meta is going to be!+ vaults are easy to play around
I have Drown in Sorrow in side also
I personally am not sold on Divination, dig is way better and lets you find what you actually need
I had Pearl Lake Ancient also as a two-of, but one is more than enough for the beatdown. Also most of the time you cast him your in complete control of the game, so you dont need to worry about it getting removed
That's what I think, but it will depend alot on how standard is going to develop and your local meta
January 8, 2015 5:30 p.m.
Standard91 says... #23
I think that you made a good change.The Divination so you can make your land drop's.I like the Perilous Vault so now you can get rid of planeswalker's as well.I like no main deck drown's. Also Bile blight is a instant.Look at my new U/W Control.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/30-12-14-EMf-uw-control/
January 8, 2015 5:30 p.m.
Standard91 says... #24
I played test your deck up against my jeskai token's deck in game 1 you lost over and over again but after sideboarding you won half the time.Here is the token's deck.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/30-12-14-rtL-jeskai-tokens/
January 8, 2015 5:59 p.m.
chuckles2000 says... #25
What's the key card? Assume it's Drown in Sorrow.
Ok, so I'm just spitballing here. What about playing Monastery Siege? It allows a few more silver bullets as you draw through your deck much faster and it fuels multiple Dig's. Obviously the biggest drawback is that it really doesn't do anything. But we have enough after the fact answer type cards (we don't really rely on counters). I think it bears testing at the minimum. But seeing so many cards would let you play a couple Drowns maindeck and just pitch it in those matches that it's not needed. Dig let's you do the same, but it can get hard to fire that off multiple times in a match.
Standard91 says... #1
Nice deck if you look at some new spoilers they have uncommon dragon's.
January 5, 2015 12:40 p.m.