Abzan warriors

Standard* carl0710

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Spinifex says... #1

If I were running Arashin Foremost in my warrior deck, I would take a serious look at Citadel Siege.

March 11, 2015 8:30 a.m.

SiegeRhiNOOO says... #2

Oh my! Glad to see that there are people who builds an Abzan warriors deck just like me! That alone gives me reason to upvote this deck!

Now if you may, I'll try to give you some suggestions.

First off, I advice that you remove Chief of the Scale, as it really doesn't give your opponent some early game presence, at the very least you could put it in the sideboard sideboard and use it against decks with Drown in Sorrow or other weenie hate. Maybe put some Battle Brawler or Mardu Woe-Reaper?

Next, how about Den Protector? At least a two-of? You could replace two Heir of the Wilds for it as its Megamorph ability really helps a lot (midgame to late game especially) as you can return a Siege Rhino from your graveyard to your hand to be recast again.

Can you explain to me that sideboard Siege Rhino? I'd run that mainboard as it really helps big time.

Lastly, what are your thoughts about Hidden Dragonslayer? I am currently listing it in my sideboard against Abzan decks.

So there, just some suggestions and insights about your deck, hope it helps. Also, if you want, you could check out my own brew of my Abzan warriors deck. Maybe you could see something there that helps.


Abzan Siege-Warriors! (DTK READY) Playtest

Standard* SiegeRhiNOOO

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Thanks! And a very nice deck you got here! Again, +1!

March 11, 2015 9:04 a.m.

carl0710 says... #3

Thanks man, i really like Chief of the Scale mainboard as my meta has a lot drowns and bile blights, things that i dont expect to change going into DTK, scale just helps get round them more easily and so id rather not remove them.

i played Battle Brawler before in a WB version of them deck and always found it pretty lackluster, Heir of the Wilds i feel is a very good replacement as at worst its a blocker that trades with any big threats they have.

The Siege Rhino is in the board because of Collected Company (which can just destroy an opponent), in testing hitting a rhino off collected is the worst feeling, so id rather play an additional Mardu Strike Leader over another rhino, also it also doesn't get the boost from any of my tribals which is annoying, but a fourth can be useful against decks where i cant get the last few points through

Hidden Dragonslayer seems like it could be very good meta dependent, so i will keep that under consideration - thanks

Den Protector could be very good but requires a lot of mana to use efficently, 5 mana to hit one specific card in the grave is pretty good but once again Collected Company just seems stronger as you can hit 2 creatures of equal value (which you dont need to pay costs for)

Mardu Woe-Reaper just seems too low impact and id rather not be running too many 1 drops, especially ones with a colour conflict, running an additional one drop i would run Mardu Shadowspear

thanks for you input =]

March 11, 2015 10:57 a.m.

SiegeRhiNOOO says... #4

No problem man, glad I could help even just a little bit.

March 11, 2015 12:07 p.m.

unzinc says... #5

How frequently is Surrak's Formidable condition met?

I run a Mardu warriors build and find my warriors get removed quite often from burn, etc that I only ever have a couple out bashing away and just win by perseverance.

April 2, 2015 6:53 p.m.

SiegeRhiNOOO says... #6

It depends on the meta where you're paying unzinc. I also rin an Abzan warriors deck and I usually fight against Mardu control. Burn here, burn there, wraths here and there. And I thank Citadel Siege for making my creatures beefy enough for their burn. Also, Siege Rhino.

Now for this Abzan warriors deck,

+1! Nice to see another Abzan warriors deck!

How about Abzan Charm or up the count of Dromoka's Command on the mainboard?

Maybe you can check out my deck and see if it can give you ideas


Abzan Siege-Warriors! Playtest

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Thanks

April 2, 2015 9:58 p.m.

carl0710 says... #7

Basically after playtesting I'm changing the Surrak, the Hunt Caller back to the third Siege Rhino as it's just better, it's a card I'm more likely to want to see and more likely to play

Abzan Charm I never really got on with unfortunately

One Dromoka's Command MB seems best to me after a lot of play testing as it's dead in a lot of match ups

April 3, 2015 7:55 p.m.

SiegeRhiNOOO says... #8

Dromoka's Command is never a dead card in my case, opponent not a burn deck? +1/+1 counter and/or fight. Burn? Prevent sorcery or instant and/or +1/+1 counter. I suggest playtesting with at least two. As long as at least one option in it works, the spell doesn't fizzle.

What do you mean by you never got on with Abzan Charm?

April 4, 2015 3:35 a.m.

carl0710 says... #9

basically i was originally playing 2/3 Abzan Charm mb, and i always found there were things i would rather be doing, than playing it - a lot of people have questioned the lack of but after playing against the deck playing with and without they agree that it functions better without

There are also no cards i'd be comfortable taking out for a second Dromoka's Command due to playing 4 Collected Company

April 4, 2015 10:02 a.m.

micah1 says... #10

I'd drop a collected company. Either for dromoka command or rhino. I'd also drop a thoughtseize for another sorin, then put the Thoughtseize in the side over the sorin.

April 4, 2015 10:11 a.m.

SiegeRhiNOOO says... #11

Ahh I see your point. Ok then.

April 4, 2015 10:13 a.m.

Juggs says... #12

Why no Surrak, the Hunt Caller? An hasty 5/4 for 4? And, he's an warrior.

April 16, 2015 10:30 a.m.

carl0710 says... #13

too much green to be able to consistently play it on t4, tested it, didn't like it

April 16, 2015 2:11 p.m.

gtnover says... #14

You have little card advantage. What if I told you I had a 1 drop that will allow you to draw up to 4 cards. Not sold? What if I told you it was themed properly for this deck. Try Warriors' Lesson. Target 2 creatures gain "whenever this creature deals damage to players draw a card" arashim foremost has double strike and gives another warrior double strike, allowing each creature to attack during first strike combat, and normal combat. So you would draw 4 cards.

May 13, 2015 11:31 p.m.

Tata says... #15

Nice deck. No love for Mardu Woe-Reaper or Bloodsoaked Champion? I think your build could use some more 1-drops.

May 25, 2015 6:29 a.m.

carl0710 says... #16

Thanks, well ideally I'm playing my only tapland turn 1 then getting straight into lords of some form
One of the main strengths of the deck is each warrior gives buffs to every other on the field (other than Mardu Strike Leader which is pure card advantage) and the one drops don't add much, hitting one off collected just feels horrible so I'd rather run a slightly higher curve for a little extra power personally

May 25, 2015 6:35 a.m.

carl0710 says... #17

Den Protector is also there for card advantage

May 25, 2015 6:39 a.m.

iamiuru says... #18

I've been looking at warriors for a while now, and this build seems pretty awesome. I'm not sure if this is a little too cute, but with Deathmist Raptor and Haven of the Spirit Dragon being very prominent right now, Mardu Woe-Reaper seems like a decent inclusion. Imagine the look on your opponents face when you respond to their DP trigger with a collected company into Reaper + another warrior, exiling a raptor and the other creature they targeted!

June 1, 2015 3:55 p.m.

carl0710 says... #19

Thanks a lot =] I tried

It seems like a long shot to me but I have been debating Mardu Woe-Reaper for a while as a possible include but don't think it's quite up to the rest of the creatures

June 7, 2015 5:11 p.m.

NageekXLII says... #20

Just out of curiosity, why two Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth?

June 8, 2015 3:42 a.m.

carl0710 says... #21

Two gives a good chance of drawing with only a small chance of drawing two, its a land I would have over many others due to the number of pain lands in the deck,

After deciding on this number looking at other abzan aggro decks most people seem to agree two is the right number as this deck is unlikely to see more than about 20-25 cards of its library (maybe more dependant numbers of drawn collected company) so unlike BU control which only needs one as its likely to cycle through its library abzan aggro is better off with two, even with the inevitable double urborg draws which can occur

June 8, 2015 5:49 a.m.

NageekXLII says... #22

Good points, nice deck!

June 8, 2015 11:39 a.m.

Hello, it seems you need help with your deck, and I'll be happy to help you.

First of all, I would put 3 Bloodsoaked Champions in your deck.

Put 2 Whip of Erebos's in your deck.

Put 3 Feed the clan's in there because only for 2 mana you can gain 10 life if you control a creature with power 4 or greater, or else 5 life.

If possible put 4 siege rhino's in there as well.

Put 2 Duress's in the mainboard and 2 despise's in the sideboard.

Put about 3 Murderous cut's in your deck this is because it has delve and you can exile anything that you don't need in your graveyard so you only have to pay 1 black mana to destroy a target creature.

Put 3 Utter Ends in your sideboard just in case if your opponet has like a deck that allows him to bring stuff back.

I hope I helped you, and if you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

August 4, 2015 3:03 p.m.

Castail says... #24

I'm gonna be making my own Abzan warriors list here in a bit...Rakshasa Deathdealer and 4 Den Protector should be in here though, Chief of the Scale isn't really needed either as a 4 of with replaceable warriors available, but just my opinion :D

August 23, 2015 2:44 p.m.

Spinifex says... #25

Abzan aggro builds have been moving away from Rakshasa Deathdealer recently, especially since Languish was printed.

There are better warriors than Chief of the Scale, I agree there, though it does help to survive Drown in Sorrow or Wild Slash. I have found Battle Brawler to be a great 2-drop warrior.

Bloodsoaked Champion should be in there in my humble opinion.

August 23, 2015 7:19 p.m.

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