Chainer Suicide Master

Commander / EDH deatn1342

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BaconSamurai says... #1

Snow-Covered Swamp instead of regular swamps. Makes you more greedy with Extraplanar Lens .

August 25, 2014 10:52 p.m.

malfeischylde says... #2

I don't know. Can it really be a suicide deck without Pox ? Interesting. I really don't remember the creature you're playing as a general, and I have been playing for a long time. What a sick creature to choose as a general. You're a bad person. Cool commander! Cool deck!

August 27, 2014 8:01 p.m.

Lhurgyof says... #3

Pox is good. I'm also a fan of Death Cloud .

August 27, 2014 8:43 p.m.

deatn1342 says... #4

There's an unwritten rule in my playgroup that basically states that I'm not allowed to play Death Cloud ...Long story.

August 27, 2014 10:14 p.m.

Lhurgyof says... #5

They let you play Smokestack and Braids, Cabal Minion , but not Death Cloud ? Man, you must've really pissed them off!

August 27, 2014 11:51 p.m.

deatn1342 says... #6

Haha... Yeah. Luckily smokestack and braids weren't in the games where deathcloud was involved.

August 28, 2014 7:19 a.m.

Asher18 says... #7

Corrupt * drops mic *

August 28, 2014 3:22 p.m.

deatn1342 says... #8

that seems far over costed for the effect.

August 28, 2014 5:07 p.m.

Asher18 says... #9

still amazing for any MB deck

August 28, 2014 10:06 p.m.

Nisoth says... #10

Why Reanimate and company? Isn't that what Chainer, Dementia Master is for? Instead of Rise of the Dark Realms , you could consider Morality Shift .
Oh, dude... Black Cat .
It seems like making creatures is important for this deck. Abhorrent Overlord can be pretty good at that. Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder might be good, too.
Check out Extractor Demon . Triggers when anyone's creatures die, and mills dudes to anyone's yard.
Graveborn Muse is just god card draw that can be sacrificed and returned as needed.
You could also try Skirge Familiar . I've been very happy with it in my Balthor the Defiler deck. Bog Witch performs the same role(s) more or less effectively. Any card is a Dark Ritual is pretty nice.
Mikaeus, the Unhallowed might also be good.
Have you considered Delirium Skeins or Noxious Vapors ?
Vengeful Pharaoh could also be worth a go. It works really well with Extractor Demon .
If you're looking to repeat ETB, then Liliana's Specter , Cackling Fiend , and Mogis's Marauder seem strong. Also, Earsplitting Rats . I was giddy when I found that one.
Slum Reaper is another Fleshbag Marauder .Doom Blade definitely needs to be a Bone Shredder . By the same token, Slaughter Pact could be Shriekmaw .
Faceless Butcher is also solid removal, but perhaps not what your deck is looking for.
I don't like Spawning Pit or Trading Post as sac outlets. You could be casting Carrion Feeder or Chaining a Devouring Strossus . All while increasing your creature count AND devotion.

August 29, 2014 5:33 a.m.

Nisoth says... #11

Oh, how I wish we could edit comments. Balthor the Defiled is the deck, not the defiler.

August 29, 2014 5:36 a.m.

Nisoth says... #12

Also, Kuro, Pitlord seems solid for this deck. It looks pretty bad at first glance, but killing dudes at instant speed for 0 mana is pret-ty strong.

August 29, 2014 5:39 a.m.

deatn1342 says... #13

All interesting suggestions. I'm not going to comment on each card individually but I may end up considering/keeping some.

August 29, 2014 8:35 a.m.

FancyTuesday says... #14

Undead Gladiator - Draw cards and pitches creatures for Chainer to reanimate. Not the world's most mana-efficient way of doing either but it's versatile and card-efficient and you have plenty of mana in mono-black.

Skullclamp - Great little card drawing engine. Plays well with sac outlets like Altars and Stax, weenies like Nether Traitor and the snakes from Ophiomancer, and creatures that just aren't long for the world like Kokusho and Mindslicer.

Baleful Force - Roided up Phyrexian Arena on a giant threatening stick. Good draw engine to cheat out with Chainer.

Corpse Connoisseur - Reusable Entomb. Again, it's a little mana-intense, but it's another body to sacrifice and once it's in the graveyard Chainer can use him again.

Whip of Erebos - Giving all your pumped up Nightmares Lifelink and swinging is a good way to reload your life total. Don't discount the haste either, it might give you that edge you need late in the game.

September 16, 2014 1:48 a.m.

Crocosaurus says... #15

Crypt Ghast can't be played because it has W in its colour identity - sorry.

Looking pretty good other than that - takes a whole different approach than my Chainer EDH.

September 19, 2014 7:51 a.m.

deatn1342 says... #16

Crypt Ghast can be played. The W isn't a part of it's color identity since it's in reminder text.

Trust me, I've looked into this. So unless it changed very recently, I'm certain that I'm right.

September 19, 2014 7:56 a.m.

deatn1342 says... #17

For a more specific ruling, see rule 903.4b

September 19, 2014 7:57 a.m.

ZombieCat says... #18

Mindslicer + Waste Not I laughed.. so much.

October 25, 2014 7:53 a.m.

deatn1342 says... #19

I know...hilarity ensued when I actually pulled that combo. Though, I'm not sure about keeping Waste Not in the deck...not enough discard currently...may change that up though.

October 26, 2014 11:01 a.m.

DarkRequiem says... #20

Grave Pact should replace Dictate of Erebos . The mana cost difference tends to be relevant.

Kagemaro, First to Suffer and Reiver Demon could very well replace two of your mass removal sorceries. Both can be revived whenever you need mass removal. Dregs of Sorrow is also interesting, adding to EDH's diplomacy. Oh! And Mutilate . I prefer any of those to your Toxic Deluge which might hurt you quite a bit since you're already playing a commander that hurts you quite a bit.

Syphon Flesh might also be interesting here, giving you several tokens.

Feel free to take a look at my own take to this awesome commander: Chainer Commander

October 26, 2014 11:49 a.m.

enpc says... #21

You might consider up-ing yout tutor count, Increasing Ambition is good value for money and flashback is nice. Also, Demonic Collusion could be good for pitching creatures. Champion of Stray Souls may also fit your build.

October 26, 2014 11:36 p.m.

deatn1342 says... #22

I agree with the Grave Pact replacement...though I don't currently have one...hence the substitution. The replacements for mass removal won't work as well because I tend to avoid casting creatures from hand if possible and my hand very rarely is actually full.

I'm not running many tutors just because my groups frowns on them a bit because they tend to drag out the game longer than it really needs to go.

October 27, 2014 11:28 a.m.

enpc says... #23

Just make sure if you ever play twin headed giant to swap back out your Grave Pact for Dictate of Erebos :P

October 27, 2014 6:52 p.m.

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