I'm Gonna Wreck It

Commander / EDH hyperlocke

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hyperlocke says... #1

@Tots: Gravecrawler is too unreliable, as I can only make a few Zombie tokens.

Never thought about Gisa, but she seems a bit too slow. Without ramp, the Brothers come out turn 4 and I will probably want to sacrifice stuff turn 5. And when I can cast her, chances are that I have lots of 1/1 or even 0/1 creatures (testing Nissa, Voice of Zendikar right now, and it looks like she's staying, also I run Kher Keep and Prossh, Skyraider of Kher).

Thanks for your suggestions!

February 12, 2016 9:44 a.m.

hyperlocke says... #2

Updated the deck a little. OGW brought two new toys for me to play with: Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet and Nissa, Voice of Zendikar. Both are token producers, Kalitas shuts down opposing reanimation strategies and Nissa's card draw is amazing.

Also, @kengiczar: I tested Tymaret, the Murder King. I was quite disappointed. I mean, I mainly tested him as an additional sac outlet for Grave Pact and co, but 2 damage to target player was not satisfying at all. But then I found Lyzolda, the Blood Witch. She suffers from doing nothing if I sacrifice green creatures. But she lets me remove small creatures and draw cards for less restrictive mana than Tymaret.

February 23, 2016 7:08 a.m.

Do I spot a missing Spine of Ish Sah?

March 14, 2016 3:13 p.m.

hyperlocke says... #4

@Rediblackdragon: I ran it in the first stages of this deck. It's too expensive for my taste and I cut it for more instant spot removal. Thanks for the suggestion!

March 14, 2016 3:40 p.m.

metalevolence says... #5

Steely Resolve is possibly the best protection for your commander that exists.

Awakening Zone makes tokens and/or ramps.

I would really go out of my to include at least 1 more land, if not 2. Like a Forest.

I'd cut:

violent ultimatum: Expensive, difficult mana cost for just spot removal. This ain't no Blatant Thievery

nissa, voice of zendikar: basically a much worse awakening zone. Makes a token immediately, but is prone to dying in combat and doesn't ramp you.

bloodline keeper: A very slow and vulnerable source of sacrifice fodder.

April 7, 2016 4:30 p.m.

hyperlocke says... #6

@metalevolence:

Steely Resolve: Oh wow, didn't know that one. Not sure about this deck, but this will go straight into my Omnath, Locus of Rage deck.

Awakening Zone: I ran it. I cut it. I honestly can't remember why right now. I guess I'll test it again.

More lands: Hmm, with 11 ramp spells at CMC 3 or less I really don't feel the need for extra lands. When I have probems with my mana, in most cases it's mana flooding.

Thanks for suggesting things to cut, I like other people's views on cards' performance in the deck.

Violent Ultimatum: Yes, it is expensive. But it is very powerful, too. There are situations when an opponent has one or more threats out and I can't get them off the board with the Brothers because there are too many permanents of the same type. I can get to 7 mana round 5 quite consistently, and I try to fetch my red lands first to meet the triple red. In most cases I can cast it when I draw it, and it has saved my ass countless times.

Nissa, Voice of Zendikar: It's worse than Awakening Zone in the respect that it doesn't ramp me. But in my playgroup, people tend to leave her alone because she produces just one token, and a little one to boot. This leads to me ultimating her quite regularly. And I love drawing 10 or more cards...

Bloodline Keeper  Flip: Yeah. He was good when I started this deck. But right now, he feels very slow every time I cast him. I passed over him when deciding which cards to cut for new ones because I wanted to give him another chance, but he probably has to go.

Thanks for your suggestion!

April 9, 2016 7:04 a.m.

QuietMyth says... #7

Blood Artist absolutely belongs here, its a crime that you have gone out of your way to exclude it. You seem to have panicked at the number 1, failing to take into acount that it will likely be 3 or 4 triggers every single time you sac something. Broken card.Dew it breh

July 10, 2016 2:41 a.m.

hyperlocke says... #8

@QuietMyth: Tested it again. It came down in a Two-Headed-Giant and in a 1-vs-1 game. In the THG game I didn't get control of the board, but another guy was playing sac outlets and Grave Pact. Blood Artist was OK, but the best part was the life I gained. In the duel game, he came down when I already had established control, so there weren't many triggers.

I like Blood Artist a lot and he is a corner stone in A Token on the House, but I find him quite underwhelming in this deck.

Thanks for the suggestion!

July 17, 2016 4:49 a.m.

carpecanum says... #9

Anything with "fabricate"? creature or artifact to sac.

Mostly when i played Shattergang Brothers i had a problem with enchantments. Aspect of Mongoose or Rancor were the best. there are other cards from the same set that were red or black. Sluggishness ect.

December 21, 2016 4:24 a.m.

hyperlocke says... #10

@carpecanum: Thanks for the suggestions!

Fabricate doesn't produce enough tokens for my taste. I want permanents that spew out tokens every turn, if possible. Daretti, Ingenious Iconoclast and Feldon of the Third Path are the newer additions to produce artifact creature tokens.

Against most decks, there are little problems regarding enchantments (but yes, it is the most troublesome type). True, I don't have as much sac fodder as for creatures or artifacts, but I run a few spells that take care of them.

I don't like the returning enchantments, save for Rancor, which I run. They just don't do anything worthwile, except being sac fodder. Even Aspect of Mongoose doesn't do anything in this deck, when I sac it, the creature is unprotected.

For now, Oath of Liliana and Rancor will have to do as dedicated sac fodder. Anyway, it isn't unheard of this deck to actually sacrifice an important piece to get rid of something, so my other enchantments can do the job, too. Should enchantment decks become more prevalent in my LGS, I will fit in Ordeal of Nylea (which got replaced by the Oath) and probably Bane of Progress.

December 21, 2016 5:14 a.m. Edited.

ResonateTime says... #11

Black Market Might help.

February 9, 2017 5:50 p.m.

hyperlocke says... #12

@ResonateTime: Thanks for the suggestion!

I know it can get stupid if left unanswered. But I can't really find space for it, so it would have to replace a 4-5 CMC ramp spell.

Solemn Simulacrum, Xenagos, the Reveler and Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury provide too much value to cut. That leaves Gilded Lotus, but I like that it starts producing mana instantly as opposed to waiting until creatures die.

February 10, 2017 12:28 p.m.

I feel like Rise of the Dark Realms would be perfect for this deck.

April 18, 2017 5:09 p.m.

hyperlocke says... #14

@brian.olson542: Thanks for the suggestion!

The reason I don't run Rise of the Dark Realms is that it's a win-more card in this deck. If my opponents have many creatures in their graveyards it means I'm doing a great job. Tapping out for this gives my opponents an opportunity to develop their board without me being able to hinder them. Also, with the amount of mass removal flying around, I would very rarely untap with all these creatures still on my board.

April 19, 2017 6 a.m.

skeletonkey8 says... #15

May 5, 2017 9:01 p.m.

hyperlocke says... #16

@skeletonkey8: Thanks for your suggestions!

I don't run Fatal Push and Tragic Slip because they're too conditional for my taste. I want my removal to work no matter what did or didn't happen that turn.

I have only one Sylvan Library and run it in another deck. I would buy another one, but until now I don't think it's really neccessary in here.

I'm testing Oath of Liliana right now over Ordeal of Nylea. The idea is to have an enchantment that provides me with substantial value but which I can sacrifice without problems. I will also sac stuff like Grave Pact, but that disrupts me quite a bit. It does what I want, but it's not great. I'll probably replace it with Bane of Progress, which would handle the artifact and enchantment based decks in my meta.

May 6, 2017 5:08 a.m.

skeletonkey8 says... #17

so question for you how has Purphoros, God of the Forge played out for you, you seemed so adamant about his dismissal at the top of the comments but he is in the 100. what changed your mind? Don't get me wrong i like his inclusion feels like value and you can sac him for 2 different types if need be. Also why not one Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth for 1 swamp? seems to help with your mana a bit. i understand you point about Oath of Liliana, i see its value here.

May 9, 2017 7:57 p.m.

hyperlocke says... #18

@skeletonkey8: In the early stages of this deck, I ran fewer token producers. There were better things to do with than to cast a permanent that would eventually deal a few damage.

Right now, I can reliably start producing tokens on turn 3 or 4 (turn 2 with Sol Ring) and I have more permanents that can produce tokens each turn (eg all my planeswalkers). Now Purphoros, God of the Forge is a valuable card, because he actually deals quite a lot of damage over time.

About Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth: I can't remember a single time where I had problems producing black mana. Half the deck needs black, so I always fetch for those lands first. Even casting Grave Pact souldn't be a problem. Where it can get tricky is the red mana for Violent Ultimatum and sometimes the double for Yavimaya Elder in the early game. If Urborg was cheaper, I'd include it, because it would make my black mana even safer, but I don't really need it (plus, many of my opponents run it...)

May 10, 2017 7:12 a.m.

zorsmobile says... #19

Genesis seems like it'd be great, a bit mana intensive but can be so abusive with certain things

June 1, 2017 2:41 p.m.

hyperlocke says... #20

@zorsmobile: Thanks for your suggestion! I run Genesis in my Omnath, Locus of Mana toolbox creature deck, where it is great.

In this deck, I shifted away from graveyard recursion, except the all-star Eternal Witness, and instead run multiple cards that do similar things. If I would run Genesis, it would replace Eternal Witness. It would be better for returning creatures (after a much bigger initial investment), but more often than not I return a non-creature card. It stays out for now, but I will keep it in mind. I actually never thought about running it in here before.

June 1, 2017 6:18 p.m.

Leumas says... #21

What about Glissa, the Traitor and Ulvenwald Mysteries + Tamiyo's Journal. Glissa synergies well with your artifacts and Ulvenwald Mysteries provides all of the relevant types while also providing a source of draw. Tamiyo's Journal works well with the aforementioned card but is less impactful for its cost. Also Aid from the Cowl is a great card that helps to get around certain locks while advancing your board state. Overall love the thought you've put into this sweet deck.

July 5, 2017 3:36 p.m.

hyperlocke says... #22

@Leumas: Thanks for the suggestions and the compliment!

Glissa, the Traitor: I love the concept, and someday I will get around to building a deck with her as commander. I ran her and Goblin Welder in earlier stages of this deck, but they had very little impact.

Tamiyo's Journal: Tried it, it's too slow on its own. I almost always ended up saccing the Clues for cards or for the Brothers' ability.

Ulvenwald Mysteries: You're right, it provides all relevant permanent types. But the "nontoken" part always throws me off, as most creatures that die on my side are tokens. I'll test it, maybe it surprises me...

Aid from the Cowl: After thinking about it for a while, I really don't know how well this would do in here, so I'll test it.

July 5, 2017 8:03 p.m. Edited.

hyperlocke says... #23

@FAGGOTUS-REX: Thanks for the suggestion!

Sadly, making every permanent an artifact doesn't help me at all. In fact, it makes it harder to get rid of actual artifacts, because my opponents can just sacrifice random creatures or lands or other stuff.

August 5, 2017 4:51 a.m.

TheSimikBOat says... #24

Really love the deck (like all the Shattergang Brothers decks that I see).

Here I have some suggestions based on my own takes on the deck:

November 29, 2019 5:40 p.m.

hyperlocke says... #25

@TheSimikBOat: Thanks for your suggestions!

November 30, 2019 6:05 a.m.

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