Mean Girls

Commander / EDH PreZchoICE1

SCORE: 4 | 16 COMMENTS | 1219 VIEWS


Anublet90 says... #1

Sorry man, I'm not qualified to comment on Commander, so you'll have to settle for a +1.

June 25, 2014 8:04 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #2

Try Reflecting Pool if you can afford it, also City of Brass and Mana Confluence .

You need constant card draw really badly. Mystic Remora , and Rhystic Study are the best. Sword of Fire and Ice is also fantastic.

Also I find it weird that you don't run Counterspell , Hinder , Mana Leak , Negate etc etc.

Also try Banishing Light .

July 7, 2014 12:59 p.m.

PreZchoICE1 says... #3

ChiefBell

just picked up a Reflecting Pool upon your suggestion, cutting Flood Plain. Brass I never see in anyones binders and Confluence seems to be a card no one will let go of short of straight across for a Courser of Kruphix, and thats a bit steep for me.

Ive tested out both Mystic Remora and Rhystic, and here are my results. Remora is ok only in the early game really, and only if Im facing something other than creature hordes/tribal. (which seems to be the standard with my current playgroup)Rhystic is nice and it hits, but rarely does someone allow me the draw, especially if I have threats in the board, so either are really 'great' for the deck. stuff like Zenith or other mass draw effects require me to commit far too much to them, I wont even give it a test as I know how it will end up turning out. Sword of Fire and Ice I could see fitting in here, but the cost is a little daunting when I have sensei's top and jtms on the top of the wishlist already. It might have to overtake those two, we'll see.

Of the 4 counters you suggested the only one Ive put thought to is Hinder, or Spell Crumple because I like their tuck effects. Both Remand and Arcane Denial give me something you've already outlined as a weakness to the deck- draw. The only other counter I run is plasm capture which is mana intensive but when I can get it off it gives me a lot of advantage on the untap, especially if I have rising waters or hokori in the board already.

I cant justify running counters that give me no benefit other than stopping my opponent spells, basically because of the slightly greedy mana base/keeping 4 mana open for Derevi when she's in the command zone.

So recently I cut Remora/Rhystic slot in favor of thoughtweft gambit. Id love to add in banishing light as well, its one Ive thought a lot about adding but I have a hard time cutting for fear of hurting the curve. The deck is already pretty thick at the 3 spot and Oblivion Ring is clearly better. Im not opposed to running it, its just finding the right spot for it that Ive been struggling with.

in 1v1 this deck is 10-1. in multiplayer it is 3-2.

because Derevi and Sol Ring are both bant in competetive 1v1 Ive tried to keep the deck as multiplayer friendly as possible so I can sit down at either a multi game or 1v1 game and be competetive. I always ask my 1v1 opponents if they are ok with me playing derevi and sol ring, and Ive only had one person say no, so far.

With that said, the owner of my LGS said to me the other day: 'You should hear what they say about your deck after you leave' which just affirms to me that I built a good deck.

Thank you for your suggestions once again ChiefBell, they mean a lot to me.

July 7, 2014 4:40 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #4

Thats fine.

Yes there is a reason Derevi is banned in 1v1, and with a score like that I can see why!

July 7, 2014 4:47 p.m.

enpc says... #5

Looks pretty staxxy. Still, have you considered thigns like Glen Elendra Archmage , Mana Web , Stasis and Imposing Sovereign ? also, Consecrated Sphinx and Arbiter of the Ideal will really help with card draw. Also, I don't know how good Birthing Pod is as most of your creatures have static effects. But I say this from an onlooker's perspective.

August 26, 2014 9:01 p.m.

PreZchoICE1 says... #6

enpc thanks for your suggestions. Ive been poking around trying to find a Glen Elendra Archmage for awhile now because Id really like to add it in. I have not however thought of Mana Web , I am going to add it in as I happen to have one in my trade binder. Stasis was part of the deck originally but as I tried to keep the focus on my commander it made increasingly less sense to keep it onboard. I do have one though and I keep it in mind on the back burner. One flaw I do find with the deck as ChiefBell pointed out is with draw if the game goes long. Arbiter is one I would probably prefer over Sphinx as it might serve to have a bit more synergy in both multiplayer and 1v1.

Birthing Pod is definitely a card I find can help me out of some fine jams by being able to go and fetch Hokori, Dust Drinker from a derevi sacrifice, or able to grab other helpers such as Prophet of Kruphix or Aura Thief It essentially acts as a 'tutor' for this deck.

August 26, 2014 10:54 p.m.

enpc says... #7

Two otehr cards you couls consider if you find card draw to be a problem are Bident of Thassa and Edric, Spymaster of Trest . As yo uwill be attacking a lot with derevi it means up to 2 or 3 extra cards a turn.

As for Pod, I guess if you're not fussed to lose one effect for another it makes sense to run it in your deck.

August 27, 2014 12:15 a.m.

PreZchoICE1 says... #8

So I've come to the conclusion that in order for me to stop some combo decks I need to have a counterspell that can exile things, so I've added Dissipate .

October 2, 2014 1:44 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #9

Seems fair enough. No Rest in Peace or nything?

October 2, 2014 1:53 p.m.

PreZchoICE1 says... #10

ChiefBell Rest in Peace I really like but I think it will hurt more than help. I have some recursion as well. I think I would need to retool the deck slightly in order to make effective use of it.

October 2, 2014 2:25 p.m.

jaeger_Konig says... #11

maybe run a Detention Sphere, its a good card and can kill tokens if need be. Also you can forget forget Swiftfoot Boots or Trailblazer's Boots!!! because shoes...

November 5, 2014 12:03 p.m.

jaeger_Konig says... #12

Also a fun card you might consider that goes beautifully with Derevi, Empyrial Tactician could be Dismiss into Dream, I believe if you target their creatures with Derevi's ability they have to sac their creatures. I could not remember this cards name it took me forever to find it on the gatherer, do you know how many blue enchantments there are? lol i hope this helps!

November 5, 2014 12:19 p.m.

PreZchoICE1 says... #13

jaeger_Konig nice interaction mate I will have to check that out. Also boots/shoes have you ever known a woman to discriminate?

November 5, 2014 12:43 p.m.

jaeger_Konig says... #14

meant to say to not forget those lol but apparently i can not type anymore.

November 5, 2014 2:27 p.m.

PlattBonnay says... #15

November 6, 2014 10:38 p.m.

PreZchoICE1 says... #16

Seedborn was just another similiar effect and I havent been able to come across one yet in trading. :) Have thought of it though.

November 9, 2014 4:55 p.m.

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