littleadam11 says... #3
BigHead066 awesome, with my deck im rather stuck but with more spoilers later on it will proberably be easier, for me either bring out the colossus and with dragon throne of tarkir make all my mana weenies into 10/10 trample bombs, but im finding that rather troublesome. or i can have a bunch of big dudes and smaller people as the spoilers come out, either way i think i might get my deck going.
September 3, 2014 11:51 p.m.
DaigarStrasis says... #4
so in your description you are replacing your basics with the tri-land? why? if you do that, might as well take out your Wooded Foothills then, if not, your gonna crack your fetch for what? yeah, nothing. You have the right idea in regards to a deck like this, however, you are thinking too "one dimensional"
September 6, 2014 12:05 a.m.
BigHead066 says... #5
@DaigarStrasis I actually noticed my mistake, I was waiting to see when someone would notice it lol.
September 6, 2014 12:51 a.m.
BigHead066 says... #7
Ajex Personally I am not a fan of Courser of Kruphix It doesn't trigger Temur Ascendancy and it can now be attacked through with Temur Charm . It doesn't effectively block alot of the 3 for 4/4's that are coming in Khans aswell. I like all of my cards that aren't many producers to have a significant presence on the board, and to not be weak draws, say against control. Courser of Kruphix is very good against aggro and will gain you more life than before with the additions of the fetchlands, but I don't think, that this deck will have a bad match up against, aggro, especially post side. Boros burn is losing alot of it's power, so Courser of Kruphix isn't as needed in that match up. I like the life gain off courser, but I do not think it will as helpful as it was. Although, I could be wrong. Life gain seems very nice when this deck runs so many lands that hurt you. If I were to put in Courser of Kruphix I think I would take out Genesis Hydra and Magma Jet .
September 10, 2014 6:03 p.m.
BigHead066 says... #9
Khanye Why would I put in Bear's Companion? It is significantly worse than the other 5 drops in this deck.
September 11, 2014 11:38 p.m.
you have 9 mana dorks...i would lessen that number to 7 and run 2...its 2 bodies with a power of 6 for 5 mana...with verdict rotating out, its a very effective card
September 11, 2014 11:44 p.m.
BigHead066 says... #11
Khanye I respectfully disagree. I think it is very important to have that many mana dorks, because of the fact I am running alot of each color. A hand without any is terrible, which is why there are 9. I still don't think Bear's Companion d is playable. If I was going to run more big creatures in the top end of things then I would run two genesis hydra. I don't see many scenarios where I would play Bear's Companion Over most of the cards in the late game. I do like that it helps stabilize but other than that I don' think it does much.
September 11, 2014 11:54 p.m.
This is something that I have been playing around with, but the build can be very diverse. I think that I have a couple of suggestions. I prefer Sylvan Curated over Rattleclaw. This is because the hexproof is resistant to spot removal, therefore a higher probability of color fixing. Something else that I would look into is finding some space for a couple of Stormbreath Dragon. Stormbreath still a very relevant card in the format, taking into consideration that Suspension Field is now a thing.
One of the cards that I was also entertaining the thought of was Mindsweep because it can help maintain board position along with help finish your opponent.
These are some of the cards that I have taken into consideration and hopefully it will aide in creating a more powerful deck, that may hit the meta.
September 16, 2014 2:40 p.m.
Disregard the stormbreath comment as well I overlooked it when first looking at the deck
September 16, 2014 2:45 p.m.
BigHead066 says... #15
Madhaxx I totally agree about Sylvan Caryatid . I also like blocking with sylvan way more than attacking with Rattleclaw Mystic I will change the count.
September 18, 2014 10:22 p.m.
weisemanjohn says... #16
I would say for one, Prophet of Kruphix she is profit every time she hits the field, both with being able to flash in creatures and with having lands open for responses to your opponent. I have never seen a time I don't want to play her.
I do not believe Elvish Mystic is necessary. Yes its turn 1 mana ramp, but personally, I'd rather get a scry land drop out of the way and play a turn 2 mana dork like Sylvan Caryatid or Rattleclaw Mystic instead.
See the Unwritten . I keep telling everyone about how nuts this card is. Any Temur minsters deck should run this card. No questions asked. I have run countless tests of this card and very rarely do you not have a 4 power creature onboard with 6 mana open. That means digging 8 deep for 2 creatures to keep pushing threats (and they trigger Temur Ascendancy for more card draw usually). And who cares about discarding 6 cards, most of the time they will be lands and mana dorks which are basically dead draws anyway at 6 mana.
One last thing. Rattleclaw Mystic can be used to block-to-kill Goblin Rabblemaster which a lot of people overlook
September 30, 2014 12:22 a.m.
BigHead066 says... #17
weisemanjohn thanks for commenting. I will address your points and my opinions on them in orderI actually have done playtesting with Prophet of Kruphix . It usually gets killed by most every removal spell and just gives my deck another target for my Anger of the Gods . It also gives you one less turn of attacking your opponent because of the fact you summoned Prophet of Kruphix instead of another creature to attack.
I believe the only match up Elvish Mystic is not necessary would be against control because it is a dead draw, and you don't need to get into Courser of Kruphix Temur Ascendancy or Savage Knuckleblade on turn two. Against any other match up getting especially aggro hitting your three drops on turn 2 is very useful and puts you far ahead in the game, turn 2 Courser of Kruphix is a force to be reckoned with.
See the Unwritten is a very solid card that I am keep putting in and out of my deck. I had it in, then I took it out, then I had it in. Against control it is very good if you have Temur Ascendency, if not then it over commits you to the board, and you will probably be hit with a board sweep, Against mid range decks every time I use it I get one big creature and a ramp creature both of which can be chumped block, or I get a Polukranos, World Eater when I already have one. It can be good but it is very inconsistent. This is why I run Xenagos, God of Revels which is far more reliable.
Oh ya that is another nice thing about Rattleclaw Mystic you are right.
September 30, 2014 12:42 a.m.
WomboCombo says... #18
+1 from a fellow Temur player.
How have you found Xenagos, God of Revels working so far? He seems a bit useless to hyper aggro (unless you have enough devotion to make him a thing, but if you can do that you're probably beating aggro anyway) but pretty good against mirror and control match ups.
October 1, 2014 4:49 p.m.
BigHead066 says... #19
Wombo-Combo Thanks for commenting, as for Xenagos, God of Revels , he is awesome in any match that isn't aggro, This deck runs so many either double red or red green cards, that Xenagos, God of Revels is always a creature, it lets me make sure my creatures can hit through for for damage, not die from combat math, and it holds back on defense. Against aggro it comes out though.
October 1, 2014 5:32 p.m.
WomboCombo says... #20
That's what I figured and thanks for that :)
I've been tempted to use Xenagos, God of Revels myself. There is one spare 5-6 mana slot that I have which I've been experimenting a bit with. Keranos, God of Storms didn't fit, so this week I was trying out Soul of Shandalar instead.
But Sagu Mauler + Xenagos, God of Revels seems like it could blow out games so easily.
October 1, 2014 7:01 p.m.
BigHead066 says... #21
Ya that does seem pretty strong. How does Sagu Mauler play for you, when I tried testing with is I found it to slow, and even because of the fact it has the same as CMC as Elspeth, Sun's Champion I end up playing it then is gets greeted with a End Hostilities or a -3.
October 1, 2014 7:10 p.m.
WomboCombo says... #22
Sagu Mauler worked pretty well for me personally.
I ended playing a bunch of aggro and mid-range decks at FNM. Sagu Mauler got sided out against the aggro decks because he was too slow, but against other mid-range decks he's great. Doesn't getting "bubbled" by Kiora, the Crashing Wave or killed by Garruk, Apex Predator or killed by any of the clan charms.
At worst he's a 2/2 for 3-mana which can trade with Goblin Rabblemaster , which honestly isn't that bad in game one and that sort of versatility is great.
October 1, 2014 7:15 p.m.
WomboCombo says... #23
I do expect this to change over the coming weeks though. As the meta settles down and control decks start seeing more and more play, Sagu Mauler might drop in usefulness.
Depending on weather people go Jeskai End Hostilities control or Mardu Utter End / Crackling Doom / Elspeth, Sun's Champion control will depend on weather Sagu Mauler stays mainboard or not.
October 1, 2014 7:21 p.m.
DaigarStrasis says... #24
If you need a deck to test yours against. Here is my baby Villainous Green
October 1, 2014 7:27 p.m.
BigHead066 says... #25
Wombo-Combo Oh thanks for telling me. I was just curious.
littleadam11 says... #1
hey, i saw your deck on youtube and im making the same kind of deck, maybe we can help each other out as more spoilers are released. http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/temur-troubles-khans-deck/
September 3, 2014 7:27 p.m.