hollandboys says... #2
@ Dorsalfin: I like both those ideas. I had Intangible Virtue in here before but I'm not generating enough tokens lately to make it worth it. Trostani, Selesnya's Voice is used in my other junk deck, and I just feel like there isn't space in here for her.
@ bhrusson0: Selesnya Keyrune has been only good for me. It is much harder to remove than any of the other cards mentioned and it gives ramp while being a great target for Kessig Wolf Run later in the game. Dreg Mangler and Call of the Conclave are both too aggro for this build. Vampire Nighthawk and Centaur Healer's spots are filled by Loxodon Smiter which is just better because it can block almost anything in standard without dying.
@ MistahJay: Not sure exactly what you mean. First off, what is your answer for Thragtusk? Second I do not even use a playmat so I'm not sure what you are getting at there. Third I am the only person I've ever seen that plays this deck, most decks where I play are all netdecks like naya, esper control, and Jund. Only 3 non-reanimator junk decks have placed top 8 at major tournaments since gatecrash has been released, see http://www.mtgtop8.com/format?f=ST. Last, this deck has been my baby since I've gotten into competitive magic, with it going through a plethora of changes to make it end up where it is now, so it is not even close to a security blanket.
March 18, 2013 6:22 p.m.
I was referring to the people that do get carried away when theres a playmat up for grabs usually on gamedays its a nice deck ive seen several decks here that run all different kind of dual lands and depend solely on restoration angel and thragtusk and apparently they play this kind of deck cuz it has a good chance at winning and im not stating my answer to it cuz then people who use this deck will find an answer to how i would deal with their thragtusk much easier i want an edge over thragtusk cuz its one card that causes me problems thats good you put alot of care into your deck most who run a deck similar to this only run it cuz their desperate to win they dont actually like the deck besides the fact it can get them a win
March 18, 2013 7:13 p.m.
Whats the point of the Stomping Ground and the Sacred Foundry? You have no red mana symbols so It seems life they are just there to make your deck look more expensive (which it needs no help with :P).
March 20, 2013 3:12 p.m.
hollandboys says... #5
They are in for Kessig Wolf Run, which is by far the best utility land for a midrange deck such as this
March 20, 2013 3:13 p.m.
I'm a bit confused about why you run Selesnya Keyrune, Wouldn't you rather play a good old three mana 3/3 like Centaur Healer? With 4 Farseeks, it doesn't look like you need the ramp, and your highest cmc is 5.
March 20, 2013 5:11 p.m.
hollandboys says... #8
So far I've had nothing but success with Selesnya Keyrune. It is much harder to remove because sorcery speed kill spells and boardwipes don't hit it. That means that if I get my board wiped by something I can still attack or block the next turn and I still have a target for Kessig Wolf Run. Against aggro decks it will get sideboarded out for Blind Obedience, Vampire Nighthawk and the like but against control it gives a lot of problems
March 20, 2013 5:24 p.m.
I never thought of it as an anti control card, props to you! Other than that I really like the list, +1 for sure.
March 20, 2013 5:32 p.m.
dream_cast says... #10
With so many tokens, surely it would make sense to run a Parallel Lives?
March 21, 2013 9:56 a.m.
strongwalker says... #11
Kessig Wolf Run is a good finisher but what about Gavony Township since you have so many creatures?
March 22, 2013 12:34 p.m.
hollandboys says... #12
@ dream_cast: Parallel Lives is just too slow. As a four drop I'd much rather be doing other things with that mana.
@ strongwalker: Generally I prefer Kessig Wolf Run, it is just a stronger card. Also, Gavony Township doesn't work that well with Obzedat, Ghost Council, as he will lose his counters when he gets exiled (which I almost always do)
March 22, 2013 1:49 p.m.
Great deck overall :) +1. But from reading your FNM game summaries, why don't at least sideboard in Frontline Medic ? You seemed to be having a lot of trouble with Bonfire of the Damned . Just a suggestion :)
March 23, 2013 10:19 a.m.
hollandboys says... #18
That is a great idea, he is definitely worth a sideboard. Gets rid of Sphinx's Revelation too
March 23, 2013 2:57 p.m.
is splashing red for kessig wolfrun really worth it? it seems a little mediocre to me and can really screw up your mana base
March 25, 2013 10:01 p.m.
just thinking, im guessing the Tormod's Crypt is for playing against human reanimator and blue control variants, why not just run Rest in Peace instead. gets rid of everything they put into the graveyard and you dont even worry about recovering anything so it doesnt harm you at all.
March 26, 2013 9:16 p.m.
hollandboys says... #21
@ theonyc: so far it has been worth it. It has won me games and I've had no trouble with mana so far.
@ Sa'kagé: Rest in Peace hurts Lingering Souls , which is a huge card for this deck especially when combo'd with Sorin
March 26, 2013 9:28 p.m.
oh yeah, forgot you had those in there. yeah definitely wouldnt run it then.
March 27, 2013 2:16 a.m.
Considering you have 4x Restoration Angel , maybe the Loxodon Smiter should be Centaur Healer instead.
Considering you have no board wipes, maybe the Selesnya Keyrune should be Avacyn's Pilgrim or Arbor Elf instead.
I'm not sure I understand why you have 4x Orzhov Charm , as it seems Selesnya Charm is at least as good.
Trostani, Selesnya's Voice
is pretty good with tokens, with Thragtusk
, and especially with Obzedat, Ghost Council
.
March 28, 2013 8 p.m.
hollandboys says... #24
The battle between Loxodon Smiter and Centaur Healer has been constant in this deck, but Loxodon's ability to either block and kill or trade with almost any card in standard is what put it in (most for Boros Reckoner ).
It is true that I do not have board wipes, but my opponents do. The Keyrune is significantly harder for my opponent to remove and is a bigger body for late game when I'm trying to Kessig Wolf Run to death.
Orzhov Charm is much better than Selesnya Charm . There is no restriction on the power of the creature I am destroying and I gain enough life to make it very viable.
I've been thinking about sideboarding Trostani instead of Rhox Faithmender but it's harder to cast. Plus faithmender is so good with the wolf run. I'll play around with all the options. Thanks
March 28, 2013 8:40 p.m.
redsoxfan3244 says... #25
Restoration angel+ Thragtusk= Gain 5 life and get a token= Awesomeness
MistahJay says... #1
I hate these decks that use thragtusk but i have an answer for it i love how a playmat is up for grabs and its almost like everyone gets desperate cuz youll see how many people bring this deck just to win a stupid playmat heh nice security blanket deck tho
March 18, 2013 3:21 p.m.