No, it is not in my opinion. Maximising statistical chances. With pain seer, it may dead card, but I can draw advantage/stabilization. There is actually A conversation on 3 vs. 4 athreos on my No More Flaccid White Weenies! Deck. Read it, I'll take dead athreos draws game 1 against the current control decks any day of the week. Especially with deicide, its important to have 4 that much more. Matter of preference. Where I consistently ran 2 erebos or heliod main/side board, athreos 'needs' to be 4 of.

Deathsper's Alpha Strike another athreos concept with esper aggro.

Sooo, ethereal armor, go !

Hopeful eidoon n ethereal armor combo will be in my mostly white athreos enchantment deck.

Taking out soldier otp for thought seize. I think it with brain maggot is more synergistic.

I'd definitely add in some Ethereal Armor . With all the enchantments on board you'll be getting huge buffs and first strike on its own is pretty useful. Also, you'll have the chance for that glorious 7/7 Hopeful Eidolon on turn 2

Maybe down the road so much removal...

See No More Flaccid White Weenies! for the hopeful eidolon combo

Blood baron side for the mirror

After some more play testing, this will be what I take to FNM this Friday. This is going to either cash and burn or own sauce...

why is Hopeful Eidolon not Soldier of the Pantheon ? i cant even think of a reason, if its for the bestow for lifelink, then why not just play Gift of Orzhova

Creature spam for athreos. This deck is an aggro with limited life gain. Gift of orzhova is too slow and the would take the place of master of the feast

Hey man s this Ryan Sloan?

Since I'm going away from Underworld Coinsmith I might replace gnarled scar hide with Soldier of the Pantheon and go 4 plains instead of two. Thanks for the suggestions guys

Simply put, there are so many good cards and combos with orzhov, its hard deciding which cards to use. For example, Spirit of the Labyrinth is a bomb with just one Ethereal Armor . Aegis of the Gods is another phenomenal 2 drop. I actually think though I prefer this deck more, my white weenie enchantments splash for athreos is more competitive. And there is also Fate Unraveler to combo with Master of the Feast finding spots though is the hard part. It would have to be Spirit of the Labyrinth but the deck would take a completely different direction. Athreos, God of Passage is great but it remains to be seen whether the hyper aggro decks are truly affected.

So far 1-1 in a 50ish man tourney

I should have never taken out blood baron. Blood baron raped me. I should've listened to my intuition. I got guy down to 2 and I just couldn't get anything to get past blood. Heavy revoke existence and deicide. I'm playing at a different Fnm that actual players set trends at. So I'm happy but deicide ruined my games.

So far no land issues but going to pump 1 drops. Brain maggot works wonders though. Only due to guy playing revoke n deicude did I lose game 2 his deck would get wreckec by mono red blue and gruul. He happens to know this meta doesn't play those decks. Otherwise his deck would flub at a GP and was perfect against me with no answers to blood baron in which he landed both Gamez turn 5

And with that blood baron main!!!

2-1Match one: mono black aggro. Too many answers and he was flooded game 2. Realistically it could b a who wins dice first. With bloods, that should change.

Match two: red white black heavyburn an kI'll with bloods and boros rekoner n the 5 drop token producer enchantment.

Match 3: selesnya aggro with token and centaurs with deicide. I cruiaed 2-0 my deck is too much for it. Only way I lose is 'god draws'. Life bane brain maggot thought seize just ruins it without having to even cast big beaters.

2 more matches for the night.

And people are underestimating master of the feast. Might be back with supreme verdict based decks, (haven't played yet), but life bane side in for that.

2-2

Match 4: american control.

Game 1 got supremed for 3 creatures took 9 for 3 of my creatures And he went to 3 I won two turns later.

Gam 2 had to mulligan to 5 and still only one land. Finally saw 3 land turn 3 and still got him down to 4 life.

Game 3 no bombs brain maggot times 2 but got essence scattered on turn 4 athreos. Then I flooded 9 manager in 9 turns 7 land on 9 draws was bad. Supreme came twice but not cards in hand had5 drop assemble and aetherling. Nerve saw deso and when I got master out, I got Supremes with spirit of the labyrinth.

Guy even admitted I should've won at least 2-1 flooding is flooding. Nothing to do by know in a even distribution victory is easy.Game 3:

3-2 final

Match 5: golgari aggro.2-0 his lotleths were too slow witm me either brain maggot'ing him thought seize or life bane zombie game 2. Both were turn 6 wins.

I believe I should've went 4-1. Most people will sideboard deicide so has to athreos out for something different.

Cleared comments. I will try this deck after I play the white weenie enchantment version next.

Nice deck. Play tested it a little against my UW control. A few suggestions:

1) Up your land count by 1-2 to be more consistent in hitting your 4th and 5th land drops.

2) Rework your spot discard. You have Thoughtseize , Duress , Brain Maggot , and Lifebane Zombie . To me, that is too much. I would side the Duress for the control matchup, side the Lifebane Zombie for the proper matchup, and drop to 2-3 Brain Maggot . However, I would probably add 2-3 Sin Collector in there.

3) Add in more card advantage. While I love Sin Collector he just doesn't do the job here. 1-2 of him is fine, but you need something more reliable like Underworld Connections , Erebos, God of the Dead , and/or Read the Bones .

4) You need spot removal. You are in the best removal colours and yet you don't have a single one main board. You need ways to deal with all those big monsters running around. Doom Blade , Ultimate Price , Devour Flesh , Banishing Light , Hero's Downfall to name the main ones. Personally, I like a combo of the aforementioned as it gives you an out against everything.

Anyway, +1 from me. Good luck with brewing.

Thx for the feedback.

This update makes me hella weak against control and hopefully better against the hyper aggro decks.