Rocknj06 Great minds think alike, i suppose :p An really i don't need help agains control anymore. Those Rootborn Defenses help, what i really need is to just outrace control.

Turn 3 in standard is always awesome! Nice build and VERY cost friendly for standard. I always have enjoyed mono-white ,but this is the first standard mono-white turn three I have seen. In addition this has made me more fond of enchantments. I initially was wondering why you were not main borading Archetype of Courage , then I saw all of the first strikers. Really though, great job. I think mono white could become a powerhouse this standard block. It was in Innistrad though too. +1 for sure.

Mac97 Wow, thanks for such a nice comment! This has been my first really competitive build and i've put a lot into it, so i'm glad you like it so much!

You are very welcome. Thank you for posting this deck and causing some ideas. I saw the link to this on the alternate art forum I believe. If that's not it you probably know which one. Looks like you put a lot of time into the description I like that about it as well. Although what are those pictures from?

Mac97 A TV show called doctor who that i have a slight obsession with, as is the description. I took one of my favorite quotes from the show and changed it up quite a bit but with the same core for my description. If i'm being quite honest, it's impressive really.

I have heard a lot about that show but have never watched it. Might look into that though

Hey there Dalektable checked back in to your amazing deck and picked up on all the changes:

I've removed blue from my build to go for mono white - so it is sort of mid way between what you have now and what you had before; it's also way more consistent than when it had blue in it.

A card which I'm not sure you'll like - but has tested rather effectively in my deck Chosen by Heliod ; it's worked in so far as getting a creature out of burn range quickly but the one card draw is really nice - haven't top-decked once in 50+ games because of it. (and we're aiming to win fast)

Anyway that's a slight diversion:

I can't argue with you on Fiendslayer Paladin given the red and black running around all over the place it's so good mainboard - but slows the deck down compared to Fabled Hero . We spoke about this before - I still run the paladin in SB for now.

Heliod, God of the Sun the vigilance is great in my opinion especially against other aggro decks - but maybe he is a SB slot; I still run him main, because he's pretty nice turn 4/5.

The one I would take you up on Phalanx Leader I still think he's the star in the deck - just my opinion of course, but I'd strongly recommend testing him MB now you have Gods Willing in there - you only had brave before whereas I've been running 3 of each.

Everytime I've seen him - I've won (not one single loss) - low cost creatures, tokens.... and cheap stuff to target him with, if you protect him for a few turns, your opponents is usually staring at 4 5/5's (with various pump effects from enchants) or something close to that around Turn 5.

I also like some of the stuff which has been spoiled so far - going to be tough to find space for them.

Hello Wainwright welcome back, i can always count on you to get an opinion. Okay, so let's begin.

To start I'd like to say i am very skeptical about the changes i have made, just over the course of running this deck i have decided to change a few things that in the long run i think will help.

Chosen by Heliod This card has been suggested countless times, and i'm not saying i don't like it. It's a good card, the card draw alone is good. I think i just have a soft spot in my heart for Ordeal of Heliod , i just can't quite let go of the fact i am able to gain twenty life in a turn out of nowhere.

Fiendslayer Paladin In my experience has just been too good. More games than not i find myself siding him in, and when he hits the board in these matches he is a serious problem for them. And on the slowing down aspect, i still run Fabled Hero as a 3-of so i think it will work fine.

Heliod, God of the Sun I like him a lot. I really do, i want nothing more than to make him great. But more times than not when i draw him it is incredibly underwhelming. Yes, in certain games he has won me the games. But for now i am going to try him as a sideboard card and see how it works.

Phalanx Leader Okay, i have one big problem with this card...topdecking. Without support he just isnt good, later game if i am having to top deck almost any other card here can support itself. I've lost plenty of games when he saw a place in the game, although that could be bad luck. He is either a star as you said or incredibly underwhelming. And that chance is super tempting to run him, just for that chance to do something amazing. But just as often he is just "eh". With this deck what i want is consistency all the time. Every other card i know what to expect when i draw into them/when they hit the board. Unless i have a hand tailored to him, Phalanx Leader is a gamble. I might try testing him out later, but for now i'm going to run this slightly changed build for awhile and see how it fairs.

As far as some of the spoils, i am practically bursting from excitement. I want a couple Brimaz, King of Oreskos for this deck as soon as they lose the ridiculous pricetag they hold now. Also i went to your profile to check out your deck since you said it's been changed, though it looks like the same list?

[Nyxborn Shieldmate] - W 1/2 Bestow - +1/+2Low cost enchantment drop

[Hero of Iroas] - 1W 2/2Reduce the cost of Auras by 1.Heroic - +1/+1

Hey there Dalektable - sorry about the deck not appearing on my page, the deck you saw is the old version - the mono white it's still private for now until I've done a bit of real life play - then will make it public, I'll drop a link down on your page when it's there.

Yeah I'm still running creatures closer to your original build , Fabled Hero with Fiendslayer to side in - but not both MB, that's because I still have Heliod MB. If I'm being honest I think the Paladin is the stronger card.

I'll get my deck public soon so you can see - but I'm running lot's of three of's,3x Gods Willing 3x Brave the Elements 3x Ordeal of Heliod and 3x Chosen by Heliod , I'd never remove the ordeal's for chosen, but a balance of the two is nice Life and Draw - that's what I'm aiming for.

I'm gonna keep the Phalanx for now - as I ran more lower cmc target spells than you did prior to your change, I've never been disappointed to see him - he's the one after 3 turns makes all my creatures a threat, nothing else in the deck does that. When everythings pumped there's no way an opponent can take them all out before it's too late. When they're smaller - they have that time.

I think some more enchant creatures will help the build out by pump from Ethereal Armor . But until that happens, counters from that fella has been too good to pass up.

Why not Blind Obedience Instead of Imposing Sovereign ? An extra enchantment to bost Ethereal Armor

Nyxborn Shieldmate - Low cost enchantment drop

Hero of Iroas - Reduce the cost of Auras by 1.

*fixing previous comment

JVMAV Okay, so to your suggestions..

I like Imposing Sovereign more than Blind Obedience because he has the possibility of being another beater. (Yes, there is possibility to deal some damage with Blind Obedience but that's if i don't tap out for the turn, which i want to every turn with this deck to be on the curve)

Nyxborn Shieldmate is just okay. It's a 1/2 with bestow and that's it really. There isn't anything i would want to replace is with, it doesnt give me anything besides a very slight boost besides the synergy with Ethereal Armor

Hero of Iroas at the very best would make a Gift of Orzhova a two drop instead of a three. He's not bad, the heroic is nice and the 1 mana less wouldn't be terrible, but currently my two drop slot is being occupied by Precinct Captain which is just an all around better card and Imposing Sovereign . I wouldn't really want to replace either of those for the hero right now.

I'll consider the Hero of Iroas if i find in testing that one mana would make that big of a difference.

Good point. I'm working on something similar in: Might of Iroas

I really like the possibilities presented by the new spoilers, but I decided to splash some Red to open other good auras, enchantments and instants, your opinion will be welcome!

Hey Dalektable I've been following this deck for a long time, and I really like how it's evolved. I would plus one it again if I could. I just have one question: would Spirit of the Labyrinth be a good fit? It could work in the sideboard as a must kill threat.

Jrjersey01 I'm seriously considering it. I think i'm eventually going to run it in the sideboard versus control over Archetype of Courage . It's basically a big middle finger to the face to Esper and Azorius control and i absolutely love it.

Isn't the archetype for Aggro matches? Because the first strike seems better in Aggro matches. Also, how are you boarding for Aggro? What do you take out for MBD? I'm just curious because I'm thinking about getting this deck.

Jrjersey01 Yes it's for aggro match ups but honestly i don't need it.

Sideboarding vs aggro i board in Celestial Flare although honestly the lifegain in this is fast enough to keep out of reach of most aggro decks

Vs MBD I would side in Celestial Flare as well as Banisher Priest sometimes. These are for heavy hitters like Desecration Demon and the like.

Control i would side in Pithing Needle , Celestial Flare (if Blood Baron of Vizkopa is present), Rootborn Defenses .

A lot of times i just play it by ear though. I make mental notes while playing, what isn't working well in this specific match up. The sideboard is fairly versatile and can help deal with a fair number of decks. Mainly though fine tune the sideboard for your meta. Mine helps me deal with what i have issues with.

Just spoiled:Eidolon of Countless Battles. Yes.

You might want to consider a second Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx . With the new Legendary rule you can tap one, gain X mana, play the second one and choose to destroy the first one, tap the new one and gain X mana again. Anyways, +1. Awesome description!

edit to previous:

Eidolon of Countless Battles

...You commented on my version of this deck a couple of months ago. I haven't updated that page, but mine's a bit more similar to yours now, in that it runs Ajani, Caller of the Pride and Gift of Orzhova now. ...I've got to say that it makes me happy to see Fiendslayer Paladin mainboard here now--He's certainly that cool. ...The question, though, is with this new-guy-on-the-block, Eidolon of Countless Battles , whether he'll end up being the one to get the axe for that.

...Honestly, I really just don't see a good item to take out, though this guy soooo deserves a 2 or 3-of slot.

Thanks!

Aldazar That's just my problem! He's beautiful and absolutely perfect for this deck but i have no idea what i could remove for him. He looks amazing and i know he would work well here but there simply isnt anything i want to remove for him internal conflict

You could consider cutting 1x Soldier of the Pantheon and 1x Precinct Captain for 2x Eidolon of Countless Battles . My reasoning for those cuts is that there will be far less multicolored cards in the Theros block than there were in the RtR block and as we get deeper into Theros we will probably be seeing less and less multicolored cards in decks. As for Precinct Captain , you have quite a few really good/cheap creatures as it is and I don't think that 1 less Captain would hurt.

My suggestion for 1 less Plains and 1 more Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx still stands as well :P

Ok Dalektable, I've gone and done it. I've given up on phenax. So now I will try out auras/ white weenie. I would love any help for the deck, brcause this I your area of expertise.

CastleSiege But the problem with that though is that i'll be running 15 3 drops, which i do not want. I want to keep the curve about where it is now, dropping some one or two drops for even more three drops would be an issue. Not to mention i win 75% of my games with one and two drops