All Nightmare Long (SBT Primer)

Commander / EDH* Lilbrudder

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SuicidalFate0 says... #1

Makes sense thank you I was misreading the card. I am building the deck now outside of Usea, Cant run it till 2 weeks from now but I will post the results. Our FNM does 2HG

December 30, 2017 11:15 a.m.

DJYavimaya says... #2

I've come across Flash of Insight in passing when looking at cards that could potentially fit in Sidisi a few times but never thought it would be enough value, but I never saw the light of using it to essentially tutor for PoN, which seems pretty awesome!!

January 1, 2018 11:45 p.m.

Wurmlover says... #3

why is Mana Vault part of the sideboard?

June 17, 2018 9:20 p.m.

Wurmlover says... #4

also why is Skullclamp/Bloodghast no longer in the deck?

June 17, 2018 9:41 p.m.

BaconatorN says... #5

I run a similar build to this but opted out of the Food Chain strat. A card that has worked wonders for me in instances where combo pieces are still left in my hand after druid has gone off is Sadistic Hypnotist allowing me to pitch them, off Ooze. This functions the same as Phantasmagorian but gives you the additional utility of discarding your opponent's hand in the long game against decks like Blood Pod.

Another Card I have in testing is Krosan Restorer. Her ability, while powerful, might seem too slow in the majority of games but her use comes primarily off Ooze in instances where the additional 1-2 mana might be necessary.

Just wanted to know your thoughts on these additions/changes to the deck?

June 30, 2018 5:59 p.m.

KittyFaye says... #6

I was wondering if there would be a space to put in a Demonic Consultation as a 4th wincon? And what card could it potentially replace?

September 9, 2018 4:43 a.m.

Pacmane says... #7

Without any basic lands in your deck using Hermit Druid 's ability will effectively mill yourself to death lol

January 18, 2019 7:48 p.m.

Lilbrudder says... #8

A milled narcomoeba and a unearthed fatestitcher off a hermit druid activation ensures I have enough creatures to flashback dread return. This reanimates necrotic ooze, which wins the game at instant speed.

January 18, 2019 9:17 p.m.

Lilbrudder says... #9

Sorry everyone. I don't play sbt anymore and didnt see these questions till now.

Wurmlover bloodghast is too inconsistent as a combo piece sadly. And clamp is only good with bloodghast.

BaconatorN food chain is the only reason to even use Sidisi. Without it you should be on something like Mimeoplasm. Hypnotist requiring us to sac a creature could be awkward. Restorer is an interesting card that I could maybe see working, but the 3 mana is a huge setback.

KittyFaye I would probably cut flaah of insight. Being able to use pact of Negation off a HD activation is cool but it's not essential and flash of insight is bad.

January 18, 2019 9:28 p.m.

inGtSToRm says... #10

What kind of cuts/additions would you make to the deck nowadays? You mentioned Flash of Insight being bad. What would replace it and are there any newer cards that would make their way into the list?

February 19, 2019 11:16 a.m.

Hey inGtSToRm, I pilot a similar list. I cut flash of insight from my list in order to add in some good interaction in the form of Assassin's Trophy .

April 26, 2019 1:31 p.m.

Reisense says... #12

Lilbrudder sorry to ask and i know u r not playing this deck anymore, but there are a lot who loves the deck a lot. isnt there any place where the deck is being discussed? maybe a discord channel for the sbt all nightmare long?

what do u think about sylvan safekeeper? and any additions from MH1 expansion?

June 17, 2019 9:23 a.m.

Lilbrudder says... #13

Hey inGtSToRm: I have been MIA for a bit and out of the cEDH so I apologize. As for replacements I dont think an all in combo deck with tons of combo only pieces does very well anymore. I'd probably cut stuff like flash of insight and other situational enablers for higher quality cards like assassins trophy. Reisense there is an SBT discord channel. If you message me there I can invite you. I'll need to take a look at these old lists and update them as many are woefully put of date. I'm glad some of yall still play SBT

June 19, 2019 4:30 p.m.

S70n3d says... #14

I’ve got this deck like 80% built.. subbed out a fair bit from my build to make it better towards this.. a little more budget tho. Don’t have all the fetches

August 20, 2019 1:10 a.m.

Anjuna says... #15

From the new Theros Beyond Death set there is a new card: Thassa's Oracle. It is a UU 1/3 creature that lets you look at the top X cards of your library (X is your devotion to U) when it enters the BF. and if X is larger than your library you win. This would probably be a better LabMan. Might be interesting to try if any of you hadn't heard about it

January 7, 2020 4:30 p.m.

Ddantes says... #16

I really dont get why to play fatesticher??

January 11, 2020 6:17 p.m.

Anjuna says... #17

For the HD combo you need 3 creatures to flashback Dread Return. The creatures are Hermit Druid, Narcomoeba (enters battlefield when it is put into the graveyard from the library) and Fatestitcher which you can reanimate for U (and which you can use to untap a land, so its essentially free).

Before Bloodghast was used but to use Bloodghast you need a free landdrop, which is not always available. Hopefully this answers your question, if not the actual builders of the deck could answer your question.

January 12, 2020 9:24 a.m.

Ddantes says... #18

So i sacrifice HD and the other 2 to bring back which creature?

January 13, 2020 11:10 a.m.

Anjuna says... #19

You bring back Necrotic Ooze (it has all activated abilities of all creatures in your graveyard). Using the abilities of Wall of roots (create 1 mana), Blighted Bat (use 1 mana to give NO haste), Devoted druid (place a -1/-1 counter to untap NO) and Channeler Initiate (tap and remove a -1/-1 counter to make 1 mana) you can make infinite mana. With infinite mana you can place infinite +1/+1 counters on NO using Walking Ballista, then ping the table by removing +1/+1 counters using WB.

Instead of WB you could use other (jankier) winconditions if you'd put them in the deck. These include:

  • Thassa's Oracle (instead of NO)
  • Havengul Lich + Laboratory Maniac + Muldrifter (instead of WB: use HL to reanimate LabMan and Muldrifter
  • Syr Konrad, The Grim (instead Of WB: mill the table, you don't deal damage though)
  • and others, you have infinite mana and activated abilities

The combos are explained in detail above, so you should be able to find your answers there

January 13, 2020 4:34 p.m.

Ddantes says... #20

Thanks mate. I did my own junk version of this deck and I'm using the Memnarca to steal everything

January 13, 2020 6:15 p.m.

Anjuna says... #21

Any idea how the list will look now that Flash has been banned?

Change Flash + Hulk for consultation?

May 26, 2020 4:46 p.m.

Sultai_Sir says... #22

I love this decklist! I've been making a Sidisi primer, The Deck that Death Forgot, and was wondering if you could help me out. It's not your level of competitive, but I'm trying to make it a bit more powerful. I do have one question about your decklist: Why are you running Cephalid Inkshrouder? I know it's for Nooze, but it seems like it's just a dead card in your hand.

June 8, 2020 9:43 a.m.

Anjuna says... #23

Sultai_Sir:

Cephalid Inkshrouder has 2 main purposes:

  1. Discard important combo pieces when it is on the board
  2. Protect Necrotic Ooze and Discard combo pieces when it is in the graveyard

At 3 mana it can also be a blocker in a pinch.

June 29, 2020 1:05 p.m.

Sultai_Sir says... #24

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks!

June 29, 2020 1:45 p.m.

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