A Permanent Solution To Our Problems

Commander / EDH JasonD

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Lhurgyof says... #1

Land Tax ? Flavorful, and fun!

January 25, 2013 2:06 p.m.

JasonD says... #2

Hey, thanks for the comment. I like Land Tax as a card, and it can be quite good, but I'm not sure it fits the theme of actually impeding my opponents. I think it would fit more into a Grand Arbiter Augustin IV deck or something. Plus, it's a bit on the pricy side for a single card (and yes, I know I have Jace TMS in there, he was a lucky booster pack ;) )

Thanks for the suggestion tho, I hadn't actually thought of running it. It's good to keep it in mind. :)

January 25, 2013 2:13 p.m.

XLunAbate says... #3

Some suggestions:

Consecrated Sphinx because she's great card draw and Isperia would feel lonely otherwise (Only sphinx in the deck).

Dissipation Field one of the better propagandas if your playgroup doesn't have ETB effects.

Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite would be great in your SB along with Dovescape , but she's great on her own..

Sol Ring : Not much to say here.

card:Minamo, School at Water's Edge is a great along with Arena of the Ancients and only takes a land slot.

Rite of Replication : One of the best cards on EDH.

Austere Command : Is one of the better Wraths for multiplayer, as it's really flexible, it could take the spot of Day of Judgment or Phyrexian Rebirth

Overwhelming Intellect , Spelljack , Spell Burst , Forbid : the best counters on EDH, I think you should find room for some of them.

January 25, 2013 2:33 p.m.

JasonD says... #4

Hey thanks for the comment :)

I would love a Consecrated Sphinx , a card:Minamo, School at Water's Edge and an Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite . I don't have them tho, and I will pick some up when I get the chance / money / find them cheap ;) The same goes for Austere Command , and I think I have one in my cube. Going to dig for that one, cause you're totally right.

Sol Ring and Rite of Replication were in, but went out to go into other decks. I think I added card:Journeyer's Kite for Sol Ring , it'll go back when my other deck gets taken apart.

Dissipation Field however I don't quite like. It was in there at some point, but it doesn't actually prevent people from attacking me, and no playgroup is completely void of ETB effects. So I actually took it out and added Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker - which I'm also considering taking out everytime I flick past it.

Concerning the counterspells, I just took out Spell Crumple and Hinder because I like this deck being tap-out, permanent aoe control. I don't want to hinder just one spell or opponent, the environment should be vile for everyone but me ;) If I see the need to work some counterspells in again, I'll add those two, and perhaps Forbid , but for now I'll only be keeping mana open to activate Mystifying Maze and such.

Thanks for the suggestions, always appreciated and very helpful :)

January 25, 2013 3:01 p.m.

Dreadwhite509 says... #5

Very cool :) Azorious..... White and blue. Check out the symbol for it. Looks like the all seeing eye lol. :)

January 27, 2013 6:45 a.m.

ASCLEPIUS says... #6

I like it too :) I want to pick up on Commander as well, but idk where to get all those epic cards :/

February 7, 2013 5:14 p.m.

Lhurgyof says... #7

The internet and card stores are good places to start. Plus, this year's commander product should be theme decks like the first commander thing, and not a From the Vault type thing like they did last year.

February 7, 2013 5:33 p.m.

Bobgalarneau says... #8

Pithing Needle over Phyrexian Revoker , always.Any artifact is thougher to kill than an artifact creature. But, if your theme is realy control, you might want both and that Cursed Totem in your deck.

Aura of Silence , goes well with Propaganda and Ghostly Prison .

Your deck is nice and effective for something, it does slow the game and keep everyone from attacking your, keeping things fair. Problem is, you don't have any win condition. Rite of Replication would be an awsome card to wait for while slowing the game. You should try to aim for 2 or 3 other bombs to play while your are controling the action.

February 8, 2013 8:27 p.m.

Bobgalarneau says... #9

card:Azor's Elocutors...... Meh........ If you ever achieve to win a game with it, your play group is realy, realy bad or you chained 5 turns with 5 "time walk" cards...

February 8, 2013 8:38 p.m.

JasonD says... #10

With the wall I put up, card:Azor's Elocutors actually is a win-condition, or very near one - even without timewalks, if the wall is big enough. Combined with the equipments I run and Spiritual Asylum it gets more effective, and it's a very fun way to win. My stompy win-con is Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre . And if all else fails, there's no shame in attacking with a Sun Titan or Blazing Archon .

I do agree tho that I should put in another bomb or two to find a win-con faster and close out games, but with a control theme this heavy I can only really attack with the one creep - which makes me thing my other win-con should be either the size of an Ulamog or perhaps I should just put Gideon Jura back in to kick some 6-dmg ass per turn. Also, I added Platinum Emperion , so he could function as another beatstick, as can my 'new' commander Isperia.

And I've decided I agree with you on revoker vs needle; the mana clause in Needle doesn't matter nearly as much as you'd think unless someone can combo off. So either it names Basalt Monolith, or it's just the same card as Revoker, making it a stronger card in general. Needle will stay in.

Thanks for the comment on the board :) Very much appreciated

February 9, 2013 12:43 p.m.

Bobgalarneau says... #11

In most games, the Pithing Needle and the Phyrexian Revoker will be used on a planeswalker or on something realy more threatening than a "mana ability". So yeah consider they are the same.

I did not want to be rude about the card:Azor's Elocutors, it's just that from my experience, in my playgroup, there is just so many board wipes, and tutors to get board wipes, that there is no way any creatures can stay out for 5 turns. But if you find that it wins games, keep it. I would encourage you to get those "time walks" so you can use them to combo out of nowhere.

For another win con, Lorthos, the Tidemaker would fit in your theme of control. Inkwell Leviathan could be another beatstick. I also like Stormtide Leviathan if you want to go in the flying/inslandwalk way.

February 9, 2013 3:32 p.m.

Bobgalarneau says... #12

Quicksilver Fountain might fith your general theme of lock down. But if you do so, get yourself a Hallowed Fountain so you can still produce white mana

February 9, 2013 3:46 p.m.

JasonD says... #13

Wouldn't Quicksilver Fountain turn the Hallowed Fountain into 'just an island' as well, making it not-a-plains? (and thus removing its ability to make white mana)

I have Lorthos, the Tidemaker but he's hard to swing with and actually pay the cost while keeping effects open, and without evasion, he doesn't seem to do much as a win-con. Stormtide Leviathan got cut a while back; I put Blazing Archon in it's spot becase I felt he's the better Moat and I'm heavier on white than blue. But then again, his evasion isn't as good as Leviathan's. Inkwell is a beatstick, but nothing more than a beatstick, so if I put in another Leviathan, it'll be Stormtide ;)

In my meta, mass-removal isn't played as often as you'd think of an EDH game. (Which still surprises me every game, and which is why I picked up a control deck) Also, tutors are used more for combo or general utility than tutoring for removal spells. Most removal is targeted or stuck on a creature. Elocutors have a good chance of surviving 5 turns I think. If the meta shifts or they turn out to be less good than I anticipated, I'll switch back to Stormtide Leviathan and start winning by beating people's faces again :) (But in general, I don't like attacking with creatures. It's so... common... ;) )

February 11, 2013 1:04 p.m.

JasonD says... #14

Oh and thanks so much for the comments about the board. I know I'm stubborn sometimes but these replies really do crack my noggin' and I really appreciate them!

About the timewalks, I'll see if I can drop a beatstick for a Bacon and a Temporal, but I think they're in my other (combo) deck Mizzet Infinite where they do a little bit more, most of the time. (such as take infinite turns ;) )

February 11, 2013 1:09 p.m.

Bobgalarneau says... #15

Lol, np man.

As for quicksilver. It say a non-island land. So hallowed fountain is an island. Not affected.

Believe me on this call, a friend played it in a 4 player free for all. Only him could play and it slowed us down for nearly all of the game. Until anyone could remove it in fact.

February 11, 2013 8:24 p.m.

try grand arbitor in the deck, or even as the general.

February 26, 2013 7:06 p.m.

JasonD says... #17

Actually, the general changed a lot over time. First it was Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer , then Ith, High Arcanist . I noticed that I needed more draw tho, and Isperia, Supreme Judge acts as both a wall and a 'drawspell'. Grand Arbiter is a different deck to me, featuring cards more like AEther Barrier , Sunken Field etc. Things that up costs, as a full-on theme.

Also, at this point I'm not sure what Grand Arbiter would do, that other cards don't already do. (Rule of Law , Standstill ) What would be your reason for adding him?

February 26, 2013 7:22 p.m.

JasonD says... #18

In fact, that would be something like this deck: Until You Pay Your Debts.

February 26, 2013 7:54 p.m.

alexsmith21 says... #19

Blind Obedience would be awesome in here

February 26, 2013 8:27 p.m.

He offsets tempo against you, as well as makes all of your colored spells cost less. If you are shooting for a control deck, he's probably one of the best cards you could put in.

February 27, 2013 12:13 a.m.

possibly a Grand Architect ? Buffs your blue/artifact creatures, and gives them added utility.

March 7, 2013 9:19 p.m.

JasonD says... #22

@AzrielBarakiel, I don't know what I would use the mana for. There's not many artifacts that I want to cast with high manacosts, and the +1/+1 doesn't matter much when my beatstick is Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre. Also, what would you cut for it?

And yes danickel1988, good catch. I had the song in my head that day and thought it was very fitting.

March 8, 2013 6:21 p.m.

JasonD says... #24

I'm running Rule of Law in the sideboard against generals like Maelstrom Wanderer and such, the curse being only targeted on 1 player makes it sort of awkward.

I think you're right about Kozilek tho, he would be better than Ulamog. Unfortunately, I don't own one in paper. So the question becomes Ulamog vs Stormtide Leviathan and that's an easy win for the Eldrazi...

April 4, 2013 7:47 p.m.

FinalExile says... #25

What about Gideon Jura? He works well with Isperia, and is a decent beater and removal all in one.

April 8, 2013 9:58 p.m.

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