I saw your post on IzzetFanatic's tron deck. I play a more standard G/R Tron, but if you want to take a look at it it may give you a few ideas. Can you specify what you need help with?

@car: Jack-Frost knows what he is doing. Listen to him.

ok. thanks guys. I mostly need help with numbers. is 1 all is dust good? would more be good? should i have 1 relic? do i need spellskite in main? is ghost quarter good in sb? does life of loam work in sb? should i main ghost quarter? would another forest be better. is surgical good? if so how many should i play? thanks.

Almost every single question you are asking depends on each individual person. You have to play and test out your deck to see what really works for you. Furthermore, it depends on your meta. What do other people play around you?

Depending on what decks you typically play against you may want to main Ghost Quarter, sideboard it, or not even run it at all. Life from the Loam depends entirely on what you do with Ghost Quarter as that is the only land that it would really sync with (although typically I don't like running cards that only work if there is a second card in play, so I have life from the loam in my maybe board and I really have to play more in my meta to decide on its fate).

Again, Relic of Progenitus is dependant on your meta, but I would recommend running a second, since it can always be used and that will increase the consistancy of pulling it.

I would always run two Spellskite in your mainboard as this is a tron deck and while it gets very powerful it also hangs in a delicate balance and you always want to protect that balance if possible. If you only have one of a particular tron land and that is destroyed, it can devastate your deck. The same goes for most things. Definitely mainboard two if you can.

As for Surgical Extraction, it is a good card but since G/R Tron is typically very offensive since we are trying to overwhelm our opponents and win as quickly as possible (even if your tron is control based) I tend to think that it is a touch too slow. Instead why not run Dismember? It'll help take out any creatures that have indestructible and can be used for only 1 mana if you really need to. Otherwise you can always use a chromatic to give you the mana you need.

Again, while I can give some suggestions these type of questions really depend on each persons individual situation.

many thanks. i think it has grown into more of a grindy tron. many thanks. i added dismember and a second spellskite. what should i take out

That's a tough question, since it is really dependent on your meta. You do have three sideboard slots so you can shift some things there, and you could also drop one Pyroclasm since I typically find 4 to be too many as it is less useful late game when bigger creatures are out on our opponents side and won't die from it, and our creatures are so big and deadly that the two damage won't matter. If you really need you can add a Firespout to your sideboard to compensate for when you really need the burn damage.

Since you seem to want to run All Is Dust, why not add a second one of those to you deck and shift your Oblivion Stones to the sideboard?

The last two cards are really up to you. It depends on your deck design. You favor a heavier planeswalker effect, but remember that you have seven cards that cost 7 and 8. You can only have one of each out at a time and if you draw two of the same you have a card sitting and burning a hole in your hand. They don't help ramp at all, so I might suggest dropping one of each or shifting two to the sideboard. Then again, you might want to drop other cards. It's up to you.

Speaking of the sideboard, why are you running Boil? Also, having an extra two Ghost Quarter and three Life from the Loam in your sideboard is a bit overkill. I rarely ever, if ever, encounter a situation where I needed that many Ghost Quarter. You have land tutors and you have Life from the Loam which will guarantee you have it when you need it. I would drop one or both Ghost Quarter from your sideboard and possibly one Life from the Loam, although that is all up to you.

Truthfully, you can probably shift the three Dismember to your sideboard since you shouldn't need that all the time.

yeah, meant to put them there. also, life from the loam is mostly for their ghost quarters. since many decks in my meta have sb land destruction, they get them back from the grave. also, i run boil cause control is big in my meta.

If they work with their graveyards a lot then you will be happy to be running Relic of Progenitus.

Let me know if you have any other questions or want any other opinions. I did the best that I could on short notice, but there is only so much I can do on my end. The rest is just playing your deck and figuring out what works.

ok. many thanks.

Crucible of Worlds?

i would. i have considered it many times too. The price is already pushing it. i make under minimum wage at 10 dollars a week. when i buy this deck i may start to upgrade it with better lands, and crucible. thanks though.

@car: You don't need Crucible even if you do get enough money to upgrade to it. From my experience with my mono U tron deck If you hate people... Play this deck. you don't need it. Often times it is a useless 3 drop. If you run it in your SB you need more then one for it to be effective. However I would recommend running Life from the Loam as a 2-3 of in your SB. Not only can you cheat back your destroyed Tron lands, you can also destroy your opponents Tron lands if need be with recurring Ghost Quarter. They are ridiculously OP. Also some decks are leaning towards 2 Newlamog and dropping all Emrakuls. This is just personal opinion but it does give you more interactions with exiling there permanents when you cast it. Lots of people say that a 1 for 2 is not very good compared to Ulamog's 1 for 5-10 annihilator. However you are milling them tons each turn which means that they are on a 1-2 turn clock often.

many thanks. tron is no problem at all in my meta XD

IzzetFanatic it's not just the fact that you are only exiling two compared to annihilator 6, but it's partly because you are forced to target permanents and both hexproof and shroud are very common in modern. I've been looking over the two and i'm going to be playtesting my deck with both two newlamog's and with one and one emrakul. I like the idea of milling to such an extreme extent, and since it is cheaper I can either get it out a turn earlier (although emrakul's giving an extra turn more than makes up for it) but I could also drop multiple in quick succession. I'll have to play and see

ok. i did try 2 at the beginning, and i found that with ugin and karn, they usually have no creatures at all. if they do then i turn them in to the stoners or dust them off. newlamog usually just destroyed lands and milled. also, it can be countered and exiled. if you think 2 newlamogs is better please let me know. thanks

Platinum Emperion?

not a bad idea. i will playtest. what should i take out. and is 2 newlamogs a good idea

I personally think you should take out a Wurmcoil Engine or a pyroclasm. and no, because 20 cards is at maximum 1/3 of a deck!

exactly. so if i mill 20 each turn...

@MAXIMUS89: ya they will be at around 45 cards when you hit them if not less. Then that three turns. OP

You just have to hope they have no kill or exile spells since newlamog doesn't have emrakul's protection. Otherwise, if you can land that hit you'll be in great shape.

ok. good to know. i think i will keep it since i can search

are u gonna add Emperion?

car I would suggest Platinum Angel over Platinum Emperion.

(IzzetFanatic I hope you don't mind but i'm quoting what you said on your deck about it.)

"The Emperion does not protect against ways of dying other then loss of life (Infect is often seen in modern). The Angel also does cost less which would seem like a matter of little consequence however often times I am casting cards like Wurmcoil and The Angel without Tron. So being able to cast it a turn earlier makes it more valuable in this kind of deck. The role of The Angel in this deck is almost never a wincon but rather a reactive piece of protection against decks that are about to win and I don't have a way to prevent that. So the fact that the Empirion is a better WinCon is of little consequence to me. Emperion DOES have a better p/t which makes it harder to kill with things like bolts. However, if they are going to double Bolt my Angel I'm fine with that most of the time because they are two for oneing my creature and that is 6 dmg that I have prevented to me."

But if you use it to prevent you from losing from infect, then you lose when you destroy it, because you'd need to in order to win. This is why I suggest Melira, Sylvok Outcast along with emperion. I forgot to mention that earlier.