Alesha, Who Smiles At Death and (s)Taxes [Primer]
Commander / EDH
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Thanks for you help. That is a shame because the art is sweet imo.
September 8, 2016 7:39 p.m.
Mishraharad says... #3
I still prefer the alter pic that is on the help of this page, instead of that one in the video
September 9, 2016 4:12 a.m.
Punderstorm says... #4
Any plans on what you're putting in from Kaladesh? At the moment I'm looking at the following for mine:
Any of these strike you as good for your deck? Or maybe any others?
September 21, 2016 2:35 a.m.
why do you have in altar of dementia over something like ashnods altar? i feel like there arent a lot of synergies with mill, but maybe im overlooking something
September 21, 2016 11:53 a.m.
zakky234: It's a sac outlet that churns your deck into your gy increasing the number of targets for Alesha to recur. Ashnod's Altar while also good, doesn't (Phyrexian Altar is hands down better).
September 21, 2016 2:51 p.m.
derp completely forgot you could target yourself XD smart thinking
September 22, 2016 7:53 a.m.
Mishraharad says... #8
Honestly, ALL of these cards seems so appealing.
Angel is tutorable with Recruiter of the Guard AND Reveilark gets it back.
Both legendaries are appealing, but Orzhov Tax Man appeals to me more.
Filigree Pet Fox Thingie is cute, and could be useful.
Key is a must in Alesha. Makes her unblockable, or somebody like Master of Cruelties kill a dude!
September 22, 2016 8:28 a.m.
Punderstorm says... #9
My thoughts were the same. I intend to test Filigree Familiar but I don't think it will over perform. I finally have a deck list put together for my version. I'll post it at someach point when I'm feeling less lazy :p
September 22, 2016 3:05 p.m.
LoliGuardian says... #11
Do you have the link of the art used for both the alternate in your video and the one here?
September 25, 2016 11:07 p.m.
+1, nice deck man! If you were going to add Serra Ascendant and Nahiri, the Harbinger, what would you take out for them? Also what are your thoughts on adding demonic and/or vampiric tutor to the deck, to help reach combo pieces easier?
October 20, 2016 2:24 a.m.
Mishraharad says... #13
Namtlaks1 If you've got access to those tutors, go for it!
It's currently out of my budget, plus I'm actually focusing on getting Panharmonicon , Key to the City and a better mana base.
As for SA and Nahiri, depends on your meta. Maybe you don't need Opression or Sadistic Hypnotist because people use a lot of graveyards?
Remove hate as your meta dictates so, or tell me how your meta looks like so I might ponder about it.
October 20, 2016 2:29 a.m.
Thanks for the compliment on my description man!
Your deck looks great! I'm still in the planning process of mine, so I'm looking for every insight before I actually go and buy the cards I need, so I'm keeping yours as a referrence to decide on the final list!
+1 Given, looking great!
October 20, 2016 9:50 a.m.
I actually just moved to a new area recently, and will be experiencing a new meta as of tomorrow. I'm looking forward to it :). And thats a good point, I'll add/remove cards based off of what I see. I'll definitely try to fit at least one of the tutors in, since this deck can really go off with the right pieces in play
October 20, 2016 1:43 p.m.
Rusty_Shackleford says... #16
Since this deck is somewhat reliant on sticking Alesha, attacking to trigger her ability, and generally letting her alive, maybe include some stuff like Whispersilk Cloak, Swords of X and Y, Lightning Greaves, etc? If so, Stoneforge Mystic might not be a bad idea.
Would also just generally recommend fleshing out your mana base a bit to ensure you have the right colors when you need them. City of Brass, Battlefield Forge, Sulfurous Springs, Temple of Malice, Temple of Triumph, Clifftop Retreat, Isolated Chapel, Inspiring Vantage, Concealed Courtyard, Smoldering Crater, Shambling Vent, Needle Spires, etc.
Finally, you might want to add Chromatic Lantern, and I'm baffled by the absence of Sol Ring, which is literally in every Commander deck.
November 5, 2016 1:31 a.m.
Mishraharad says... #17
1) Playing her a lot, I've noticed if we don't have Alesha out, we still aren't in a bad place - lot of games where Alesha was absent, just taxing people went a long way; Kambal, Consul of Allocation ,Thalia, Guardian of Thraben and Mogis, God of Slaughter do pull a lot of work.
But if I were to cut something for, let's say Greaves, what would you cut?
2) Ungh, my mana base is the bane of my existence and some trades have been set up to fix my mana base, can't wait to improve it!
3) Lantern is something I'm interested in, and a new reprint in C16 might make me get one. Sol Ring I got out since I got bored by it. Yes, it does go in almost every EDH deck (decks like Animar do exist that aren't 100% shoe in for it but ...) and I decided I'd rather put something I dig more than Sol Ring. This last point was more style over efficiency.
November 5, 2016 2:26 a.m.
Rusty_Shackleford says... #18
Fair enough as to that first point; my suggestions were based more on general principles than personal experience with this particular commander, buy your creature suite did suggest a certain degree of fragility which is why I made the recommendations that I did. I'd absolutely recommend the changes to your mana base though; a bad mana base is akin to having a bad offensive line in football; no matter how powerful your business cards (position players) are, your deck will be inefficient without a solid mana base.
November 5, 2016 4:38 a.m.
TheRedGoat says... #19
I'm not sure if this is really a competitive build or just really well made casual deck. Good on you sir for being able to toe the line.
Also I do have a suggestion of 1 swamp and, with god as my witness no other card I can see cutting, Key to the City being replaced by Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and a good ol'fashioned Filth. Or does that feel like overkill?
November 10, 2016 1:23 a.m.
Mishraharad says... #20
If I ever do manage to get Urborg, it and Filth are coming in.
As for the Key, dunno if I can cut it. I played a tons with it, and damn does it over perform!
November 10, 2016 5:51 a.m.
rustbeltwolf says... #21
Hello fellow Alesha homie. Found this deck linked from reddit and I really dig it. Granted, I'm quite cheap and cannot justify the expense of some of these cards but I put together a budget list . Would you mind giving it a look and letting me know what you think? Thanks in advance!
December 1, 2016 7:01 p.m.
rustbeltwolf says... #22
For some reason link didn't post: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/513806#online
December 1, 2016 7:01 p.m.
Mishraharad says... #23
rustbeltwolf Biggest hit on the budget of my deck would be that promo Thalia, remove that and deck is already under 200$ (still ain't budget, but it lessens the burden)
Also, I'd like to know more about your meta, since that would give me more insight on what to actually combat/hate.
First thing I'll note about your deck, I'd remove most of ETB tapped lands from it, and if you can't get better lands, methinks that basics might do a better job, since this type of deck needs to get out of the gates ASAP, and ETB tapped lands just drag you down. Remember, you'll hardly win against green decks and their ilk by playing the fair game. You gotta tax'em fast and hard and slow them down as much as you can. (Part of this talk is my anti-green bias, since Green is the scourge of Commander games imho)
Now to creatures. First, lemme commend you for going with a REALLY creature dense version of the deck, since that is a good way to combat budget- always have disruptive creatures ready! Some creatures, like Ghitu Slinger or Relic Seeker might get the cut, depending on what you have lying around. Ghitu Slinger for Avalanche Riders might be a good trade? Since 2 damage won't be so good coming mid game.
Guy I'll recommend and that fits the budget is Brutal Hordechief . Ever wanted to pay 5 to win the game? This guy does it!
Rest of the creatures are alright on the budget, and I LOOOOVE Minister of Pain (Screw you, Kobolds and Goblins!)
Think you should, if you can find them (and you should since they've been printed a lot) change Planar Outburst for Day of Judgment . Awaken doesn't do THAT much in a Commander game, and you do recover better than most from Wraths.
What does Magebane Armor actually do in your deck, except making a dude safe from Blasphemous Act (also a card you could get for the deck!) and giving some extra stats? I know I use it in my Dralnu deck, but that's not to die for bunch of direct damage effects!
Also, you might change Armilliary Sphere for any of the appropriate Signets?
Enchantment suite I find good enough, I see the purpose in everything there.
Hope my answers weren't too long/boring!
December 2, 2016 2:49 a.m.
Mishraharad says... #24
AsykoSkwrl Am still on the quest of getting a better mana base. After that's done I think that will be it for the deck, I'm really happy with where I am with it!
December 2, 2016 2:50 a.m.
rustbeltwolf says... #25
Mishraharad thanks so much for all the great feedback, you're a gentleman and a scholar. To start, my meta essentially consists of one dude, maybe one other one from time to time (we're both 30 and lawyers so finding time/friends ain't easy). He has a Rosheen deck (huge creatures, tokens, burn), and Stoutarm deck (huge creatres/fling/lifegain), and a Lazav deck that works on reanimation and control. He usually plays Rosheen hence all the board wipes and damage prevention/negation. He's also as cheap as me (cheaper even) so I don't have to worry about crazy expensive bomb cards.
I think you might be right on about just switching to basics. Tap lands are slow as hell, I'm always just paranoid about missing colors in a tri-color EDH deck. Ghitu has actually been pretty good as he can off himself and take out many of my opponent's early threats (which help him later on). However, I agree that he's just useless late game, so I might splurge and grab an avalanche riders. Relic seeker is also meh, you are correct. It draws hate/blocks and almost never becomes renowned so it could probably get the cut for a Hordechief (which I actually own :) Minister of pain and Festercreep are both dope as they can kill themselves or, in the case of Minister, put another creature in the yard. Day of judgment is just too expensive to justify (I've got a mortgage, etc :P) so I went with super budget board wipes at or under .50, with Magus acting as my recurrable wipe.
Magebane is just there for my opponent's endless burn spells, although I've been thinking about just switching it for that equipment that gives legendary creatures +3/+2 and is silly cheap (forgot its name). I'm also in agreement about the armillary sphere and it's little cousin. If I switch out taps for basics and armillary for signets the mana would be much better.
Thank again for all the great feedback.
Mishraharad says... #1
Sadly, a printout Mr. Elkoholic , I'm still waiting to finish my work at the seaside so I can go back home and get a proper alter made!
September 8, 2016 2:47 a.m.