hmm... More come into play effects would be nice with Venser, and more burn. And you may find more success with the previous Chandra. :) looks fun, and very annoying though haha

I thought about the other Chandra's but this one just seemed more crippling for multi-player games where I may have several different opponents creatures that I need off the board.

I sorta am leaning into the blue control at the moment (mostly because people burn my planeswalkers) but I could try a few runs with heavier burn to see where it goes.

It is quite fun but yes it can be pretty annoying to play against, people really don't like it when you start doing ultimate abilities.

If you wanted to change it up a hair you could add the Mimic Vat / Sundial of the Infinite combo. you're already got vensers, o-rings and dignitaries in there... Not a suggestion, just a thought. you're already close to it.

Those colors reminded of my old deck I use to play when Ravinica was standard. Maybe Firemane Angel as a possible win condition. I saw where you said you can stall long enough but unable to finish, this may be a way. Gains life and you can still play it from the graveyard. I use to combo that card with card:Zur's Weirding, but I don't think it'll work too much in multiplayer.

+1 for gayness and hatred i would feel playing against it

How about throwing in a few evasive man-lands like Celestial Colonnade , Faerie Conclave , or Inkmoth Nexus ? They would make for a decent alternate kill once you stop your opponents. Since you have 4 Pyroclasm , maybe you could replace 1 High Ground for a card:Red Sun's Zenith or card:Devil's Play to help you end games, especially if you have Chandra out.

The win con problem you're experiencing is that none of these planeswalkers' ultimate abilities are killing strikes. In this setup, Ajani and Venser don't kill, Elspeth basically doesn't kill, and Chandra, Jace, and Gideon all take a lot of work to kill. Gideon needs a clear path to swing through, and there aren't many offensive weapons in this deck. Jace could mill someone out, but he's the only thing in here that mills people, which means it's all on him. Ajani Goldmane could be a good fit, since he gains you life and his ultimate has the potential kill quickly. Also, I'll bet he's not too expensive monetarily right now. Chandra Nalaar is good for killing people too, and people sleep on her until you hit them with her ultimate- They don't forget that experience. If you go for four colors, any version of Garruk would fit just fine, but the really cool 'walker to use would be Sarkhan Vol . Not many people can deal with five dragons easily.

If you want to abuse Venser, there are a number of great options. However, the oft-overlooked option is to use Venser's first ability with Mnemonic Wall : Negate and Condemn threats, then Venser the wall and get your spells back. Chandra's second ability and Volt Charge were made for each other.

Noxious Revival could be good if people keep killing your stuff. Overall, it seems like you will never be killed, but you might draw out. Don't do that. Kill more. :P

Thanks for all the advice guys! I really liked the idea of the Firemane Angel but I think any creature with an ability like that will do the job I have a Magma Phoenix that I'm going to try and see if a little beater can win me the game.

I probably would have some man lands in here if I had them, also this deck runs on fumes anyway (although I like it like that) so I might leave the mana base how it is. The low land count is another reason I haven't tried some Fireball or card:Red Sun's Zenith type win.

Abusing Mnemonic Wall with venser was something I had considered but I didn't think I had enough inst/sorc to make it worth it. maybe I'll try a run with much heavier blue white control and another venser and see how that plays out.

I'll do some play testing at home and see how it comes out and post the results up here. thanks again guys for helping me annoy the shit out of people!

oh forgot to say an Ajani Goldmane will get some play time in here as well.