slovakattack says... #2
cian114: Thanks, I think it could do pretty well. I love knights although I still need to properly playtest it. As for Ancient Den , I would have it 100%... if it wasn't banned in modern. All colored artifact lands are, due to Affinity.
July 3, 2014 10:20 p.m.
slovakattack says... #4
cian114: No problem. Rest assured, were it legal, I'd be all over that like white on rice :P
If you have any more suggestions/concerns, don't hesitate to lay em' on me.
July 3, 2014 10:30 p.m.
I really love this build!!! The only card i would suggest you is Knight of the White Orchid
July 4, 2014 10:16 a.m.
slovakattack says... #6
MTGCat: Thanks man. Knight of the White Orchid is an excellent knight, but the reason he hasn't been included is that, well... there's just not room for the poor fella. His slot is really taken up by Puresteel Paladin , and every other card is either crucial or sem-crucial to the deck's synergy. If you can suggest a card to take out in favor of some Knight of the White Orchid , I'd gladly consider it.
July 4, 2014 11:27 a.m.
Sorry, a bit late to respond but:
The deck is very creative and also very good! :D
July 4, 2014 3:48 p.m.
slovakattack says... #8
Scorprix: Oh, thanks! I'm decently happy with the way it is right now, but I'm thinking of taking out the Elspeth, Knight-Errant s in place of some more Steelshaper's Gift , and nixing 1 of each sword in place of 3 Paradise Mantle (for free draw, and a lil' ramp.) I'll need to test the changes, however. What do you think of the idea?
July 4, 2014 3:53 p.m.
CurdBrosBrewingCo says... #9
I definitely think it would be worth testing the deck with an additional Steelshaper's Gift
, Three less swords, Mox Opal
s in place of a couple lands, and Paradise Mantle
s or Accorder's Shield
s. This would help to see if the deck runs more quickly and get to metalcraft more quickly.
With that said, you have avoided the common Puresteel Paladin
mistake of forcing a tone of bad equpiment into the deck and being forced to have a Puresteel Paladin
in hand. This deck can function well without ever drawing a Puresteel Paladin
. Drawing one is just a plus and almost a guaranteed win.
Keep us posted on how testing goes. I think you might be onto something really great with this deck idea.
July 4, 2014 8:50 p.m.
slovakattack says... #10
CurdBrosBrewingCo: Thanks for the assessment. I'll keep you guys posted as the deck develops. (currently testing with Paradise Mantle /Accorder's Shield . Leaning towards the Mantle at the moment.)
July 4, 2014 9:03 p.m.
PlattBonnay says... #11
Instead of Torpor Orb in the sideboard, why not use Hushwing Gryff so that it could be a trick too? Because if an opponent sees that you have an orb on the field, they won't make their move until they have a way to deal with it. They won't always see the gryff coming since it has flash.
July 4, 2014 10:41 p.m.
slovakattack says... #12
PlattBonnay: Good suggestion. I've got 4th of July stuff to do atm, but I'll add it/playtest it when I can.
July 4, 2014 10:46 p.m.
Yeah the gryff seems very strong even as a main board possibility. Now that pod decks will have access to a 3 drop etb destroy target artifact/enchantment, that flash capability becomes extremely useful.
July 5, 2014 12:19 a.m.
Maybe you could subistitute 1x Brave the Elements and 1x Student of Warfare for two orchids, this could balance the curve of the deck...but i really don't know man, this deck seems really solid, it's a personal idea :) good job, if you nave time please take a look at my BG devotion deck, i'm looking for suggestions ;)
July 5, 2014 7:59 a.m.
PlattBonnay says... #15
safearus - The 3 drop ETB destroy artifact/enchantment is not a new addition, Harmonic Sliver has been legal for years and has been in pod decks for a while to fill the position. Now they just have another option for that spot.
July 5, 2014 12:27 p.m.
slovakattack says... #16
safearus: Yeah, I'm liking Hushwing Gryff the more I look at it. It's def. going in the sideboard. As for the main, I actually have a 3-slot (where Brave the Elements is) to add it whatever counter cards I please, as Brave the Elements is nice, but not particularly crucial to the deck- especially with overlapping protections from swords, greaves, etc.
The thing Torpor Orb has over the gryff is that it does become shrouded when Indomitable Archangel hits the field, but the flash of Gryff is certainly great, and not something to be taken lightly. It can even be cheesed out on T4 with AEther Vial , making it especially deadly (as I can fake out having 0 mana).
MTGCat: I haven't had a huge problem with mana in this deck, and if I start running into issues, I'd sooner throw in some Mox Opal for the artifact boost. Thanks for taking a look at this deck! I'll check out your deck when I can, but I'm no expert in Golgari.
July 6, 2014 12:04 a.m.
looks good +1 maybe try Worldslayer works amazingly with exempler
July 6, 2014 11:55 a.m.
slovakattack says... #18
shadow63: Worldslayer is nice, but is a bit too dependent on Knight Exemplar for my tastes. Were the deck built around it, with Umbras and other things then it would be an add. for sure.
I'll test a version with it anyway. Who knows, it could be better than I give it credit for.
July 6, 2014 12:03 p.m.
alright if you care to take a look at my knight deck knights of karametra
July 6, 2014 1:40 p.m.
slovakattack says... #20
shadow63: Sure thing- I actually have a W/G knight deck of my own, so I can help you out. Remember, if you like the deck. +1!
July 6, 2014 5:31 p.m.
First off love the deck +1 for sure!
What are your thoughts on Batterskull or even Loxodon Warhammer for the buff and lifelink?
July 6, 2014 10:26 p.m.
slovakattack says... #22
airnspc: First off, thanks for dropping by!
I've thought a lot about Loxodon Warhammer , and I eventually broke down it's components. I'll do my best to take you through my thought process. For the purposes of this thought process, let us pretend that they are both equipped to the deck's main beater: Mirran Crusader .
Let's look at what stats the Warhammer gives: Lifelink, Trample, and +3/+0.
Let's compare these stats to it's competitors for the "bruiser-artifact" slot, starting with it's strongest competitor:
Loxodon Warhammer vs. Sword of Fire and Ice
Loxodon Warhammer pros: Lifelink, Trample, +1 power, statistics are available on attack, not on damage.
Sword of Fire and Ice pros: Protection from U/R, draw, +2 toughness and +2 target-able damage.
One of the things about Modern, now that it's settled is that there are many decks built around a turn 4-5 infinite or semi-infinite combo (notably: Kikki/Twin, which are slowly merging into the same deck as more people are realizing that Kikki himself is a great fallback for a Twin deck, etc).
Because of this, lifelink isn't a hugely helpful stat in Modern- at least, not as helpful as it can be in standard. It's still useful, but not as helpful as you would think. So, we can scritch that off the list of 'must-haves'.
On the subject of trample: Trample is very useful when combined with an indestructible attacker, and so combos very well with knights. However, this is only useful if the attacker is, well... being blocked. When equipped to Mirran Crusader , the overlapping protection statistics make our man unblockable to every color but white (and in the case of versing a white deck such as soul sisters, I can substitute Sword of Light and Shadow instead.)
This means that trample is next to useless, as 80% of the time, Mirran Crusader will get his full strike in, irregardless of blockers.
Now, for the last positive: The damage. +3 certainly seems like a better option than +2, but assuming Mirran Crusader is ghetto-unblockable and gets his strike in, the 2 damage actually becomes 4, due to Sword of Fire and Ice 's ability. Better yet, it's targetable, so an unblocked Mirran Crusader (who procs the sword twice, giving us a total of 4 targetable damage) can not only deal a serious blow to the enemy, but nuke, say... a Deceiver Exarch or Pestermite that is on the field, not to mention the source of Pod's sacrifice, so-on-and-so-forth. It gives us more damage, and more flexible damage on top of it.
And that's not even counting the card draw :P
Now, this comparison assumes things: It assumes that I will get Mirran Crusader out, and be able to equip him with said artifact, but I maintain that the protection from burn and control that the artifact offers makes it superior to the warhammer, as much as I love the card.
This holds true to a lesser degree for Sword of Feast and Famine and Sword of Light and Shadow .
Whew. That was quite the essay, apologies. But yeah, that's my thought process regarding Loxodon Warhammer .
As for Batterskull : I do like the item, but at the moment it's initial cost makes me a bit too nervous to really include it in the deck.
July 7, 2014 2:34 a.m.
PlattBonnay says... #23
So I was thinking about this deck today and I started to wonder...how do you deal with the affinity matchup? Robots is almost always a faster deck than this and can just push through damage with a big cranial plating on an Ornithopter or something when they need to. Do you just hope to draw into your removal early enough in the game? Disenchant might be a good piece of removal to add to your sideboard for this, and it helps with Pod/Twin/Tron/Ascension Storm and sometimes UWR control.
July 7, 2014 5:14 a.m.
slovakattack says... #24
PlattBonnay: As it so happens, my current matchup against affinity/tron... kinda sucks, gonna be honest. I'm considering kicking the 3 Brave the Elements for more removal, such as Banishing Light (or Disenchant .) What do you think?
Brave the Elements has done some nice work for me... but I don't really need the protection as much as I normally would, due to overlapping protection stats/lightning greaves.
July 7, 2014 5:30 a.m.
lotusofblackness says... #25
I have a soldier themed deck if you wanted to check it out.
Champion of the Humans (1st Place @ FNM + TNM!) Playtest
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cian114 says... #1
Also, how about Ancient Den ?
July 3, 2014 10:16 p.m.