@SynergyBuild I was thinking of adding more untapped lands like Nimbus Maze, Tainted Isle, Tainted Field, and the pain lands. Thoughts? Maybe what lands I shouldn’t be playing?

In place of Time Warp you might like Temporal Mastery, it can consistently be a Time Walk.

@ArtifactObsessed, Temporal Mastery exiles after casting it, so I can’t combo with it.

@SynergyBuild hey! I updated the list what do you think?

I am a little bit unsure of what you changed. Mind asking me a particular question?

@SynergyBuild I added Magister Sphinx, Hostage Taker, Eldrazi Displacer, Glen Elendra Archmage, Venser, Shaper Savant, Phyrexian Delver, Reveillark, Reflector Mage, Basalt Monolith, and Gilded Lotus.

Why Phyrexian Delver when you can get Karmic Guide? I get the echo issue, but generally it dieing isn't too bad. Also no life loss.

@SynergyBuild honestly the echo was kind of an issue, but the life loss was too. I kind of feel a need for more etb life gain, but idk any good ones that aren’t green.

Cloudblazer is the best, but you are already running it. I'd instead suggest Healer of the Pride or Soul Warden type effects so when you flicker anything else it gains life.

@WotanubisReturned there are plenty wincons from Felidar Guardian. I don’t like the infinite ETB trigger combos because they generally aren’t good cards on their own. I like cards like Cloudblazer because it can fill my hand up and it can win me the game with Felidar Guardian. Altar of the Brood on its own just kind of sits there as a dead card.

@WotanubisReturned, I 100% disagree with you. I curve out really well with this list. I’m usually playing ramps and tutors between turns 1-3 and then I’m winning the game turns 5-7 very consistently. And just because Altar of the Brood is sticking to the board throughout the game doesn’t mean it’s actually doing a whole lot of work. Yeah them tutoring for a card and putting it into the gy is an okay thing, but I wouldn’t really consider it groundbreaking. I don’t even need enough mana to cast my WinCons after I get my combos into play because my combos allow me to have infinite mana or infinite turns, so I can just cast it with no problem.

I mean, I run Altar of the Brood, but I would never turn one it unless I can turn 2-3 win because I did. Too many decks abuse the yard, imagine the Karador dredge deck, you mill them 5, and suddenly they got a free Time Warp on you. Yeah, great card.

Really, too many decks abuse the yard, and milling them, unless they use a tutor to top, or they are out of cards in library, doesn't hurt them. If they have any unearth or flashback cards, they can gain value. Normally, milling to graveyard (as opposed to exile) isn't something that is directly bad in EDH.

That is fair, as I play cEDH with currently 4 decks, Captain Sisay Paradox Engine stax-combo, Animar, Soul of Elements Ancestral Statue combo, General Tazri Food Chain combo, and Teferi, Temporal Archmage The Chain Veil stax-combo. All Tier 1-1.5 decks, each that can win turn 1-3. That isn't to say games don't go long. Stax builds in general aim to win turn 5+ often, and two of those are tier 1 decks. To say that competitive EDh games don't go longer than turn 6, or simply rarely is strange for your playgroup/meta, and isn't the norm.

This deck isn't a high-tiered EDH deck though, so claiming that you want to play Altar of the Brood (a combo piece that isn't useful to cast early-game in cEDH) for competition is simply a incorrect assesment of the goal of this deck.

If you are worried that there is a small chance that when you have Felidar Guardian + Aminatou, the Fateshifter you don't have the mana to cast Altar of the Brood, you forget you could easily have flickered a land before casting Felidar Guardian to cast the altar, and then went off.

Simply put, though I personally think Altar is a good card for this deck, I also know that the way that you explained using it is incorrect, and that in many variants of the deck, it is the wrong choice.

Agreed. Speed is not the only way to go. All that really matters is how consistently you can enforce your gameplan against the pod.

As for this deck, I would run Wall of Omens and Baleful Strix over Cloudchaser. They don’t gain you life but having blockers that happen to have ETB abilities early in the game is great against aggro decks. For that reason, i’d also recommend Mnemonic Wall over Salvager of Secrets and Posessed Skaab.

SynergyBuild, any chance you could look at the current iteration of my Aminatou list: Aminatou: Nihilistic Tendencies (Stax)?

@Megalomania, I already have Baleful Strix and actually I really like Wall of Omens, but probably going to go cut Mulldrifter instead of Cloudblazer. As for the Salvager of Secrets ordeal, I plan on cutting Possessed Skaab for the Recruiter of the Guard, so i can tutor for Archaeomancer or Salvager of Secrets.

And I am going to take my mulldrifter out for Cloudblazer. Thank you for pointing that ou. :)