this... is perfection... thank you

i will use this if i ever get enough moneys

@wHyuna Thank you!!! It is nothing near perfect, but I hope you have loads of fun with it :).

There are budget replacements and stuff you can play around with if you like. Still, it's my favorite way to play and abuse her, but I've seen a wizard-ball pop up recently somewhere and it looks really interesting too ...

(Also look at your meta for specific stax you might need)

I loved your list, I'd like to know if it's for 1vs1 or is it focused on multiplayer?with my friends we play traditional 1vs1, so I can use DEREVI without problemsBased on the multiplayer banlist

@velesese : This version is highly tuned for multiplayer, if feel like a 1v1 list would also focus on a bit removal like Path to Exile and Swords to Plowshares and some cheap counterspells like Arcane Denial and Spell Pierce (or other ones like this) so you can get em off under sphere effects... if you're allowed to play her 1v1 you are going to have a lot of fun while your opponents won't :)

(also, Cursecatcher , Patron Wizard , Spiketail Hatchling and Judge's Familiar will become that much more powerfull in 1v1 setups... )

Aether Vial might also get you ahead easier in 1v1.

Hi,

Een +1 heb ik al gedaan :)

Allereerst complimenten voor het deck!

Is dit een leuk deck en een goed deck om te spelen in een competitive omgeving? Ik ben net een Derevi deck aan het bouwen en wil Niet een one-trick-pony deck, maar echt waar je over moet nadenken maar wel consistent is.

Kun je hier iets over vertellen?

Dank alvast :)

yo, thanks for the upvote :-)

• First of all, it depends what you consider "fun"... If other players aren't allowed to do anything, for example when they Can't combo, use artifacts or look for pieces and plays and you can handle playing under a lot of pressure as you will be the #1 target 95% of the time then I'd suggest "Stax"derevi as it is a very rewarding commander if you keep your plays tight and don't make blatant errors... It easily deals with any meta/tier deck as stax often has a lot of cards to it's dissposal and you can opt to side in for more gravehate for example if your meta requires it. (or any other hate)

(Note- this is a "multiplayer free for all" or "2HeadedGiant" based deck and has shown enough power for multiple rank 1 placements in different meta, even with the rng in F4A)

• Stax Derevi really shines when your opponents are on a somewhat more competitive playstyle/deck as it punishes really hard and fast. Lower rated commanders and jank often oppose no challenge whatsoever.

• When for example you explode early with a turn one trinisphere you are setting up for an early victory as this deck is made to be able to run under any hate and eventually bleed out your opponents slowly but steadily... or a turn 2 Derevi + orb or sphere effect (orbs only go live and have an impact turn 3 anyway but having one early does set up easy wins...)

• There are other ways to play her though for example "Food-chain" (Combo), "Wizardball" (tap-exploit), "Paradox" (combo) and so many other ways you can exploit her uncounterable factor, flash, etb, and dmg triggers...

(Side-note if you complain about begin focused or can't win under pressure you can't and should not play Stax no matter how fun it seems...)

+1 for the WoW reference

Hi Kiyomeii

What do you think about putting Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger and Natural Order? For me it isn't a bad choice, a Second or third turn Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger it's a huge advantage!

Hey Nova6 ,

Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger and Natural Order are options you can use if you don't run : Loyal Retainers with anything ranging from Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur too Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite...

But the main reason I opt for Loyal Retainers is purely to be able to get back any legendary stax piece or hatebear. For example, if they got rid of your Hokori, Dust Drinker somehow...

Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger sure does explode fast but my deck is not built that way and greedy plays like that could be responded to with the likes of swords and paths... Not that it is wrong to play him not at all!! If it works in your meta and people can't play around it then I would abuse it as long as you could. although I feel like Natural Order is a bit costly as a non-creature spell yet you can definitely get it off under sphere effects with all the ramp this deck runs.

You could also use Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger with Loyal Retainers of course but I feel like a Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur is way more impactfull early on if used that way (Elesh is in her for other reasons as well so she is irreplaceable for me)

By all means, no deck is completed a 100% and if you feel like Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger does the trick for you then go for it!!!

I will take note of this because it is interesting for 2headed giant partners that can run this badboy!

Food Chain with Darevi

@JXB; It's a viable build path which I addressed a few comments back as well but it is not what I wanted to go for. I Don't have the best knowledge/Experience of a Food Chain Derevi Deck but I suppose you can find other guides of it quite easily on here.

completely casual questions. What makes you think Derevi is a girl? Where did you find out?

" Soaring above the battlefield, Derevi, Empyrial Tactician, uses cunning strategies to outsmart her enemies. She orchestrates the movements of her great army as they fight invaders who would lay waste to her peaceful lands. Derevi's keen eyes absorb a multitude of factors as she rapidly alters her plan to meet the changing conditions on the ground. Among her devoted followers, Derevi is called the greatest commander the Shards have ever seen. Her brilliant strategy routed the Grixis hordes at the Battle of Split Peak. Her clever diplomacy diverted the Esper Council in their plot against her. Derevi is disciplined but fair, and she evokes loyalty in her soldiers. Always the eye in the sky, this commander outmaneuvers her enemies time and time again. "

Can be found in the lore on wizzards.com below...

(also it's on the back of the box when you buy it :')...)

https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/uncharted-realms/ten-commanders-2013-10-29

My biggest question is why have Containment Priest in a Derevi deck? I mean, that is a bit of a non-bo when people rightfully target your commander because then you cannot use her activated ability to bring her back to the battlefield.

@TheMaelstrom so seeing as you'll only really cast her once on turn two(Either or ) , and on occasions even with her ability if you get an insane start or needed to get other stax down turn 2 as this will preserve her "one-time" normal casting cost for as long as you use her ability... After that, you'll never cast her a second time as her ability will always be cheaper so if you ever would end up in this situation which has never happened to me over all the years I played her and used this priest to stop certain combos as it sets them back a lot, but it is really easy to achieve anyway...

Containment Priest is tech against Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker combos or Splinter Twin most of the time, as you'll only really flash her in if you want to stop that combo or stop some reanimation effect like hulks dread return on it's winning turn and not just play her for shits and giggles out of nowhere when you have no clue how to use this card... it also stops kaalia but we don't have such a noodle deck in our meta anyway so it has definitely a super good card in the deck because of its versatility.

Great primer. +1 for the built and the lack of counter magic! I'm not a stax player [anymore] but if I ever become one, I think I'll be more prepared for the meta.

What about adding Concordant Crossroads? I know, it seems like a weird move in a Stax deck, but you're already forcing a lot of opposing creatures to enter play tapped anyways, and stuff like Linvala keeps them from using their abilities at all. Meanwhile, cards like Yisan, Selvala, and Sisay benefit A LOT from Haste, and it also gives you the opportunity to trigger Derevi's untap ability with creatures on the turn they enter the battlefield. And at G, it has a super-low mana cost that allows you to play it on the turn you're able to end the game with your Haste-infused combo.

Hi KongMing ,

So about Concordant Crossroads, it is definitely a solid option for this deck and very mana efficient at the cost of only one indeed... The card allows for some insane explosive turns and that is very tempting for this deck as you can push out more hate pieces faster and earlier with a lot of cool haste tricks and untaps or like you mentioned instant toolboxes that go live. Basically, if you want to run this you should!!!

But the reason I've put the Crossroads in my "sideboard" is a Meta call. We have a few too many decks in our meta whom benefit very hard from this card and can win faster when I put it down. I also run this card in Selvala and it can backfire on you more often in a Stax setting than when I play Combo Selvala for example (In my meta that is)...

If you are looking to cut a card for this my list has some Meta calls that might not apply to your meta so it shouldn't be too hard to leave a hate piece out for this :).

I'm getting surprisingly good results with Null Chamber. I like how it's less color intensive than Nevermore with twice the effect. If no one wants to cooperate, it's unlikely for this to directly backfire as Derevi is "immune" to the effect, and you have so much versatility it can be difficult to name a specific spell that you haven't cast yet while also being relevant.

@Dankey Seems like an "okay" addition if your meta uses their commander a lot as they will probably target another commander too and help you out... But apart from a few commanders in CEDH, most of them aren't used except for their colors or when winning and you can't get all 3 players with this... except, For example, a Teferi would be a bad target as the deck opposes no challenge whatsoever by being a non-creature commander in the first place (With too much artifact focus that helps us have an easy game)... This means you can force politics to also target a second creature commander if they want to even work with you that is...

(I still find this too scenario too specific anyway). But if it works wonders for you keep abusing it!!!

Secondly, At the cost of 4 mana + being a Non-Creature Spell, this can backfire if they know your deck a bit... they can name Winter orb or predict what you are trying to set up for example... Derevi's lockdown generally never is the same but it is a bit too risky for my meta...

I was actually thinking of naming their win condition, or an answer that can get around Gaddock Teeg, or anything we can't deal with first and their commander is more of a safe pick.

Feels too specific in many cases still as many decks run multiple win cons. even if you know the deck it doesn't mean they run it optimally every time (or sided in something else).

That's understandable. I suppose it really is a meta call.

When being focused down by your entire table, do you think Propaganda is worth playing so you don't get punched in the face every single turn by fast and inexpensive creatures by literally everyone?

Or are you more worried about players drawing into cheap answers, whereas playing a single Swan Song or Disrupt may be in order? Or if it's not too color intensive Mana Drain or Mystic Confluence? I feel I can spare a flex spot or two, and I understand cantrips are more desirable when playing counterspells in multiplayer.

@Dankey ; Propaganda is a pillow fort spell at its core. All it does is discourage players from attacking you specifically. Derevi is one of the most creature-heavy decks in the format apart from Blood Pod, So being attacked shouldn't scare you as you can take most of the damage and block if you really have to. It also doesn't actually prevent combat in any way really... I find it unplayable in most Metas. if aggro is really troubling you I'd look at Willbreaker and Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist as answers (they have worked wonderfully for me at more casual aggro tables and the longer the game went on you eventually get Elesh out).

The one mana counterspells like Spell Pierce and the like or Swan Song indeed, can get the job done really easy if you're afraid of them drawing answers in a certain scenario... Back when she was played in 1v1 a lot of these were played like Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile as well and they can still be worth it from time to time, it's just a Meta call really.

You could also look at Beast Within and Song of the Dryads If more removal were needed perhaps.

Also, I've kept an archived list and not long ago put all Derevi decks I found interesting and worthwhile for CEDH in it that i've had in my favorite folders.

Maybe you can get some inspiration from other versions!

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