Surgical Extraction takes shadowborn out of your hand as well as Extirpate.
February 10, 2015 1:29 p.m.
lemmingllama says... #3
@JPODS0717 Surgical Extraction says "any number", so you can simply fail to find the ones in your hand, but still grab the ones from your library.
February 10, 2015 1:52 p.m.
TARDISMasterMC says... #4
This is my favorite deck. ever. I think i might try this out, but with more land and polymorph+1
February 10, 2015 3:47 p.m.
lemmingllama says... #6
@TARDISMasterMC Glad you like the concept. The only issue with adding more cards is that you will have to cut some Shadowborn Apostles, that could bring the deck size after Surgical Extraction to over 20 cards, negating Shelldock Isle. Still, if you throw me a link after putting it up on tappedout, I'd be happy to look at it.
@leospartan2000 You are correct. I'll fix that right away.
February 10, 2015 10:11 p.m.
Great idea! Good use of Shadowborn Apostle.
Love it!+1
February 10, 2015 10:11 p.m.
lemmingllama says... #8
@griz024 Glad you like the deck. Thanks for the +1
February 10, 2015 10:25 p.m.
Featured. awesome job +1 thank you for your mindful building.
February 11, 2015 9:33 a.m.
lemmingllama says... #10
@hateindigital Thank you very much! Glad that you like the deck
February 11, 2015 10:09 a.m.
AcexSpades says... #11
Seems like you'd probably also benefit from Thoughtseize and Inquisition of Kozilek to backdoor discard an apostle on the first one, then hit them on the subsequent ones.
February 11, 2015 11:49 a.m.
Khaosknight says... #12
Cool idea, I love decks that are a little bit different or new. +1
February 11, 2015 1:15 p.m.
Hades_Shadow says... #13
Seems pretty good, it would be rough to not have a Surgical Extraction, but with the secondary option it makes up for it! +1
February 11, 2015 2:05 p.m.
lemmingllama says... #14
@AcexSpades If I didn't run the transformative sideboard, then Inquisition of Kozilek would be one of the first things I would be adding. However, it would also decrease the consistency of the deck for the main deck. Thanks for the comment though!
@Khaosknight Glad you like the deck. Thanks for the +1.
@Hades_Shadow It is kinda rough, but we have Serum Powder and casting six Shadowborn Apostles to make up for it. So it can work nicely. Thanks for the +1
February 11, 2015 7:38 p.m.
I'm new to MTG, so excuse my ignorance. How do you discard Shadowborn Apostle on turn one as your post suggested?
February 12, 2015 4 p.m.
you don't play a land, which causes you to have 8 cards in hand, so you have to discard down to 7.
February 12, 2015 4:11 p.m.
lemmingllama says... #17
@Byronyk Minelia5's post is correct. You choose to go second or lose the die roll, thus allowing you to draw first. You draw and then end your turn, discarding down to 7. You can then use Surgical Extraction whenever necessary.
February 12, 2015 5:52 p.m.
Awesome idea, but am I missing something? What is the blue mana for? Why not swamps?
February 13, 2015 7:46 a.m.
lemmingllama says... #19
@hannibal6 Our way to cast Emrakul, the Aeons Torn is Shelldock Isle. It requires a blue to activate, so that is why we are using dual lands.
February 13, 2015 7:56 a.m.
Remember when a card tells you to search for cards with a specific quality you don't have to find any or all of them, including in a hidden zone, so even with Extirpate you can fail to find apostles in your hand. Source:
701.15b If a player is searching a hidden zone for cards with a stated quality, such as a card with a certain card type or color, that player isnt required to find some or all of those cards even if theyre present in that zone.
February 13, 2015 7:46 p.m.
lemmingllama says... #21
kettchup Hmmm, I just checked the rules and it would appear that you are correct. Well then, that makes Extirpate much better than I originally thought. Thank you for mentioning that.
February 13, 2015 8:37 p.m.
The only time you have to get exactly as many cards as it says is when they don't have descriptors defining what kinds of cards you're finding. If you cast Diabolic Revelation for X=3, for instance, you have to get exactly 3 cards.
February 13, 2015 8:54 p.m.
lemmingllama says... #23
@kettchup Yes, I understand. I was originally mistaken since Extirpate had the word "all", I assumed it would be cheating to fail to find copies. Anyways, thank you for clearing that up.
February 13, 2015 9:21 p.m.
Awesome Deck! I will defnetly try this out as soon as i get enough Apostels ;)
+1 for sure!
February 14, 2015 1:48 p.m.
lemmingllama says... #25
@RemzZz It's hard to find that many, just slowly get them and soon enough it'll be fine. Thanks for the +1!
lemmingllama says... #1
@zaga Sounds like you got a really bad hand. Too bad. Anyways, thanks for the +1
February 9, 2015 1:27 p.m.