Done.. this deck is done.. at this point the only thing I would do us add either pain or shock land just to mana fix yourself (unless there is some other dual land I'm forgetting that is currently in standard).. I prefer shock because 2 life and that card is in business rather than a life every time you need a colored mana from that card.. then maybe after a little bit feeling out the scene just figuring out how your local scene reacts each time you bring it.
August 20, 2014 5:29 p.m.
Deathwish47 says... #3
Sir5L This is a budget deck, trying to keep it under $80. I was thinking of adding the blue enchant that lets you draw a card it you attack with two creatures.
August 20, 2014 8:23 p.m.
Fair enough.. If not draw card see if you can't work some more scry in there. Aqueous Form could be a good fit. Also Stymied Hopes could sideboard for Dissipate against decks that don't return from the grave.. Scouring Sands could side board against token decks.. I have always preferred scry to draw because it is pretty much deck stacking just a few cards at a time. Drawing cards won't always be helpful if You have some god awful land chuck sitting on the top if your deck when you need a game finisher
August 20, 2014 8:54 p.m.
Deathwish47 says... #5
Aqueous Form I feel is a waste of space because most of the hard hitters in the deck either can't be blocked by tokens or have trample.
Scouring Sands is already in my sideboard before you suggested it.
Stymied Hopes will only work in the first 3 turns, after that it would just be countered with an extra mana. For decks that don't come back from the grave, I have Negate sideboarded, because it is cheaper.
August 21, 2014 12:50 a.m.
Sorry didnt see Scouring Sands there in your sideboard..Last try then I bow out with Oracle's Insight might be what you are looking for but it comes later than I would like a card that useful to come also 2 more creatures as a possibility Aeronaut Tinkerer and Scrapyard Mongrel . :)
August 21, 2014 1:16 a.m.
Deathwish47 says... #8
Chewy35 Thanks!
Sir5L I think that Oracle's Insight is a bit too expensive for what it does, and it prevents whatever it is attached to from convoking because chances are I will tap that creature to draw an extra card. I have Bident of Thassa to allow me to draw cards whenever trample or flying hits the other player.
As for your other two suggestions, I like Scrapyard Mongrel more. 4 mana for a 5/3 trample is more appealing than a 3 mana 2/3 flying. The 5/3 trample is just as appealing as Juggernaut .
August 21, 2014 2:02 a.m.
I know I said I was done but Rogue’s Gloves could be what you are looking for
August 21, 2014 1:40 p.m.
Deathwish47 says... #11
I decided to put Izzet Charm in for Dissipate . The options with charm are a much needed addition, such as either counter spell, damage a creature, or draw 2 and throw 2.
August 22, 2014 11:26 a.m.
This same deck has been posted like 4 times by other people.
August 23, 2014 1:30 p.m.
Deathwish47 I'm not trying to come off as rude or as if I'm trash talking, but really. This deck, with the exception of maybe one or two cards has been in the top 8 decks on T/O at LEAST four times already. I honestly don't see much of a point in reposting a deck when it's already been seen time and time again. It kind of nullifies the purpose of the Top Listings. Top Listing is supposed to be a way to recognize new and/or revamped strategies that have potential. It seems like for the past month (or however long all of M15 has been spoiled), there have been nearly nothing but this deck and some incredibly gimmicky decks in the top 8. Anyways, I would cut maybe 1 or 2 Shrapnel Blast for a few more creatures, most preferably with haste. The deck might be a bit more focused if you try and take it into the creature aggro direction, but thats just me. I have lots of experience playing red aggro, and most of my aggro decks (the successful ones, anyways...) are creature heavy with a solid burn package. Just something to consider.
August 24, 2014 1:27 a.m.
Deathwish47 says... #15
Davik100 Regardless of what you were trying to "come off as," it was still unnecessary and did nothing to help contribute to the deck. As for your second comment; the deck is aimed to rush 6/6's out on turn 4, or 5/5's at turn 2. Its a mix between a burn and a rush deck. When play testing this vs other decks, mine tends to win on turn 7-8. Sometimes even 5.
I am thinking of removing Thassa, God of the Sea for two reasons: I never get enough devotion out to use her as a blocker/attacker. 2nd: the game usual ends before I have use for her.
August 24, 2014 2:14 p.m.
I honestly think this deck looks good as is.. other than play test tweaks for the locale
August 24, 2014 9:11 p.m.
How about Cloudfin Raptor ? It can be used for convoke and gets bigger over time, plus it can be a chump blocker or sacrificed for Desecration Demon .
August 26, 2014 12:03 a.m.
I played against a deck like this last night. It's mean and works well. It destroyed my monoblue.
August 28, 2014 11:20 a.m.
MightyPhyscheKoN says... #19
I would recommend taking out the temple of epiphany because it slow you down a turn. When khans come out there may be a blue red fetch land. they have already announced several other fetch lands. until the release you really don't want a turn wasted just to scry 1.
August 31, 2014 12:19 p.m.
MightyPhyscheKoN says... #20
i use mana confluence but this is budget so just stick with basic lands.
August 31, 2014 12:20 p.m.
jaredpaolo25 says... #21
currently using this deck... i have removed Dissipate and put the 3 Dissolve in SB... i put 4 Izzet Charm ... removed 1 Bident of Thassa and 1 Hammer of Purphoros and added 1 Island and 1 Mountain as i always get mana screwed...
also i am thinking of replacing Thassa, God of the Sea with Keranos, God of Storms because none of them gets to be online... might as well go with the one with better ability...
try to replace Scouring Sands with Anger of the Gods because whenever i am facing off with a rabble red deck, the amount of creatures my opponent has is killing me... i am also considering to replace Polymorphist's Jest with Springleaf Drum because that's too much mana for control and we are trying to rush the opponent's deck here...:)
September 1, 2014 6:07 a.m.
Deathwish47 says... #22
[jaredpaolo25] [Thassa, God of the Sea] has saved my life more than once. Storms cost too much for very little. The perma scry from Thassa saved me when I mollogined down to 4 cards.
September 2, 2014 9:32 a.m.
jaredpaolo25 says... #23
alrighty.. i put back the bident and hammer and removed the Soul of New Phyrexia ...the soul isn't helping in the combo... hmmm and also, a judge told me to consider putting Hot Soup on an ensouled Darksteel Citadel and a Prophetic Prism if i get mana screwed... i haven't tried it yet...
September 2, 2014 1:18 p.m.
jaredpaolo25 says... #24
and also Trading Post sorry for double posting.
September 2, 2014 1:28 p.m.
Deathwish47 says... #25
Ok, lets say you have Darksteel ensouled... what happens when it gets exiled? There are too many counters to even worry about hot souping it. I will however say it may be a good item to side board.
nicokour says... #1
Nice deck !! If you want you check out mine too : http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/izzet-ur-artifacts/
August 17, 2014 6:45 a.m.