Please ignore the last comment, all the cards marked foil are actual foil cards now...
November 2, 2013 11:56 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #3
No one would play you if you play this deck in casual. Most of my casual matches run to turn 15 easily, or so. If it's worse than a vintage deck why would anyone play you in casual?
Also, I won. Using my deck 300 and Alone. I shall portray the game for you. You could have been unlucky on the draw as you usually win by turn 1-3.
Hands:
Mine:
- Birds of Paradise
- Breeding Pool
- Congregation at Dawn
- Knotvine Paladin
- Noble Hierarch
- Ranger's Guile
- Sublime Archangel
Yours:
- Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
- Memory Jar
- Soldevi Digger
- Time Vault
- Urza's Mine x2
I go first: Breeding Pool and Noble Hierarch .
- Your turn: Drew a Soldevi Digger , played an Urza's Mine .
- My 2nd: Drew Temple Garden , played it, Knotvine Paladin and Birds of Paradise .
- Your 2nd: Drew Platinum Angel , played an Urza's Tower and Time Vault .
- My 3rd: Drew Congregation at Dawn , plays a Sublime Archangel , swings for 8.
- Your 3rd: Drew Colossus of Akros , played an Urza's Mine .
- My 4th: Drew Distortion Strike , played it and Ranger's Guile onto Knotvine Paladin . Swings for 12, Game.
- Your 4th had I not drawn anything that could have buffed Knotvine Paladin : You drew Darksteel Forge . Played a Soldevi Digger .
From playtesting in this match, I think you should remove the following Emrakul, the Aeons Torn , Platinum Angel , Colossus of Akros , Darksteel Forge and Contagion Engine for Banefire , and one artifact tutor of the following: Fabricate , Tinker or Trinket Mage . It is easy to get infinite mana by turn 1 thanks to Tolarian Academy and Candelabra of Tawnos , so a turn one win with Banefire should be really fun. The tutors help get out the combos you need to win when your hand isn't that good.
November 2, 2013 9:06 p.m.
@Femme_Fatale:
You have completely missed the point as to why this deck was constructed in this way.The format itself is entirely illegal in every format for that very point hence the name Forfeited Existence - that no one in their right mind would ever challenge a deck built like this for under $500.00 USD from only the collector's edition over priced versions of the most expensive cards in history.
Trying to play a deck like this everywhere will get you dropped kicked right out any hobby shop door just about anywhere there are "house rules" or rules for that matter of any kind except for 60 card deck, 15 card side board, unlimited maybe board, and no more than four cards of any name translated into English.
The very essence of why this forfeited construct was brought into being was to solicit only absolutely the bravest of any of the Magic: The Gathering game CCG players.
Seriously - anyone foolish enough to challenge this deck one on one in a duel and in person - plus actually winning against it even if it draws lousy on the best 2 out of 3 games - will find themselves on the winning end of a substantial reward:
--> Any one (or possibly more depending on what I feel is their level of effort to try to defeat this) cards, actual physical cards, from my box for them to take home just for providing me a worthy challenge! <--
My name is Matthew.
I live in the Hillsboro, Oregon area of the United States.
Here is my contact information if you wish to schedule a casual match schedule permitted on my part:
[email protected].
Thank you, and Happy Gaming!
November 3, 2013 3:30 a.m.
Because this deck is actually illegal in literally every format except casual... I think I'll just play 60x Chancellor of the Dross. When do I get my prize?
April 23, 2015 5:17 p.m.
A prize is given only upone PROOF of this deck's defeat!
You may print this deck to physical form, or playtest it to prove it has been defeated.
You must show the sequence of how this deck was defeated, and how I most accurately played my deck to defeat yours.
Then and only then I will consider your prize...
April 23, 2015 5:27 p.m.
SoggyGecko says... #8
What turn does this go off? If it ain't turn one, then it's not good enough.
April 23, 2015 5:31 p.m.
What all is the prize, anyway? I need to know before I spend any amount of money acquiring and/or printing the cards for both decks that whatever prize you deign me worthy of is... well... worth it.
April 23, 2015 5:32 p.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #10
Um, with 60 Chancellor of the Dross, I win automatically, before you can even do anything. You don't need proof for that.
April 23, 2015 5:32 p.m.
TehMagicPrimordial says... #11
You don't get it dude. erabel will win every game before you even get to play a card. 3 life X 7 cards = 21 = You dead son. So what's the prize?
April 23, 2015 5:33 p.m.
I'm going to also jump on the 60 Chancellor of the Dross bandwagon.
April 23, 2015 5:34 p.m.
You forget their is a mandatory limit of four cards of the same name and translation in your sixty card deck(s).
Try again sir(s).
April 23, 2015 5:38 p.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #14
This deck here is not legal in any format anyways, so I think we have the right to break the rules too :)
April 23, 2015 5:39 p.m.
This is my constructed play single rule that you will comply, you do not have a choice.
Casual has always abided in every instance, so I tell you: Try again!Their is a mandatory limit of four cards of the same name and translation in your sixty card deck(s).
Try again sir(s).
April 23, 2015 5:42 p.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #16
A) What's the prize?
B) Might want to be precise in what you're asking then.
C) Unless this has a consistent T1 win, the entire vintage format could beat this deck.
April 23, 2015 5:44 p.m.
Or, at the very least, the entire Vintage format that runs, y'know, counterspells... so, the entire Vintage format.
April 23, 2015 5:45 p.m.
Get lost, or try again.
I won't say it again, because obviously you can READ since you are continuing to respond...
April 23, 2015 5:47 p.m.
Also, yeah, what's the prize? I don't want to pay money to print/proxy these cards only to receive "bragging rights" or some online certificate of "You won!" or even any amount of cards from this deck (since most of them aren't legal in most formats and you said most of them were gold border anyway, making them double illegal). Like, it has to be worth the time.
April 23, 2015 5:47 p.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #20
It says to email you. I'm not going to email you, I would like public proof of the prize before I attempt anything.
Second off, unless you're using proxies or fakes, there's no way that you could have assembled this for $500. Sorry :)
April 23, 2015 5:49 p.m.
Also also, your maybeboard premise is faulty, partially because un-cards, and partially because in any format with a sideboard (which this challenge is, because, well, this deck has a sideboard), Research/Development can only take cards from your sideboard, not from the non-existent "maybeboard" or from your collection. "Outside the game" is defined as "one's sideboard" if your deck has one.
April 23, 2015 5:50 p.m.
TehMagicPrimordial says... #22
As a T1 judge, my ruling is that mklump's deck illegal in the format he specified to play in. Thus, whomever can show me a legal decklist first will win the match.
April 23, 2015 5:52 p.m.
I'm playing Oops, All Spells! featuring Force of Will. You go on the play.
Your opening hand Mishra's Workshop, Black Lotus, Voltaic Key, Fabricate, Mox Sapphire, Ancestral Recall, and Time Vault.
My opening hand: Force of Will, Force of Will, Summoner's Pact, Lotus Petal, Dark Ritual, Dark Ritual, and one other card.
You play Mishra's Workshop, you play Voltaic Key, you cast Time Vault. I counter pitching Force of Will to Force of Will. You play Mox Sapphire and cast Ancestral Recall but do not find Time Vault. You play Black Lotus, sacrifice it to play Fabricate searching for Time Vault.
I play Lotus Petal, sacrifice to generate one B, use it to Dark Ritual (three B), use one to cast Dark Ritual (five B), Summoner's Pact for Balustrade Spy, target myself, flip my library, get 4x narcomeoba, sacrifice them to flashback Dread Return, get Angel of Glory's Rise returning all human creatures in my graveyard to the battlefield, the two important ones being Azami, Lady of Scrolls and Labratory Maniac. I tap Labratory Maniac to draw a card and win the game.
Sound good?
April 23, 2015 5:54 p.m.
Gold Border for Casual is valid absolutely will get you under $500.00 USD when collector's and international collector's were released several years ago when this was attempted.
Again as I'm saying a second time: Get lost, or try again.
Obviously you can READ since you are continuing to respond...
mklump says... #1
Foil cards are marked as the main deck for use as a main deck card flag in the play test engine for separate distinct identification only. -Matthew James
October 5, 2013 9:01 a.m.