slovakattack says... #2
nosoyyucateco Now, this really depends. If I plan on running Trepanation Blade , then I need to keep Invisible Stalker for obvious reasons. If I do that, though, I mind as well nix Mindcrank and go for a more blatantly aggresive approach with Quietus Spike as well, imo.
I'm not a huge fan of Inkfathom Infiltrator .
In terms of Duskmantle Guildmage , If I put him in, then I'll be forced to center the deck around him. If I do that, then I need to completely restructure the deck- It will wind up looking quite different than what it is now.
On the subject of Lazav... We both know what must be done... yet I can't T-T
June 8, 2014 9:09 p.m.
slovakattack says... #3
@nosoyyucateco Quick question: What do you think of Sword of Body and Mind as a replacement for something, probably Mindcrank ? I'd like to go for a more all-out aggressive mill approach here, and was thinking of kicking Mindcrank for Trepanation Blade .
June 12, 2014 3:25 a.m.
NoSoyYucateco says... #4
Yeah, I think that would be cool. Do the sword rather than Trepanation Blade , though.
June 12, 2014 5:24 a.m.
slovakattack says... #5
@nosoyyucateco I think this deck is almost complete! One last thing: What's your opinion on me ditching Jace's Phantasm for Sigiled Starfish ? It's much more utility early, as well as a decent early aggro blocker.
June 12, 2014 10:28 p.m.
NoSoyYucateco says... #6
Yeah, I think that's a very good idea. Between them and the Siren of the Silent Song you should have enough defense to get you to your win conditions.
June 13, 2014 12:28 a.m.
How about Duskmantle Guildmage to turn the mill into damage?
It's worked well in my Dimir mill deck, Mill 2 Kill
June 13, 2014 2:42 a.m.
slovakattack says... #8
@Headers13 Thanks for the tip: I'm trying to stay away from Duskmantle Guildmage , actually, as I'm trying to make a different kinda deack- and if I put him in then I might as well put it Mindcrank , and it just becomes another standard (and for me, boring) mill deck.
Not denying it's effectiveness, I'm just trying to something a little... different. Thank you for the suggestion, though! Is there any other feedback you could give?
June 13, 2014 3:06 a.m.
You could swap Doom Blade for Tome Scour and Sigiled Starfish for Hedron Crab for all out mil?
June 13, 2014 12:43 p.m.
slovakattack says... #10
Headers13, good suggestions! I have a ton of mill bombs in this deck already- between Mind Funeral , Glimpse the Unthinkable , and Sword of Body and Mind (which will be milling for 10 each turn once out and equipped), I think I have a little room for control/deck fixing.
I'll playtest it both ways, though. In the meantime, have you considered Bloodchief Ascension as a backup win con for your Mill2Kill deck?
June 13, 2014 12:54 p.m.
That would be quite tasty, although with the mindcrank combo that I already have it does seem a bit over kill. Not to mention I'm trying to cut back on my magic spending and Bloodchief Ascension looks a bit pricey. :-(
June 13, 2014 3:23 p.m.
slovakattack says... #12
Headers13 Oh man, didn't realize they were so expensive.My bad.
June 13, 2014 4:26 p.m.
slovakattack says... #13
@nosoyyucateco, so did a few hours of playtesting, and I found that the sigiled starfish were a huge help to my deck. That, and the deck is extremely combo-based. When the combo hits, it's absolutely devastating, but my deck doesn't have much in the way of defense...
Also, I need to remove Lazav. Maybe it was just because I was playing against Tribal decks, but Lazav seems to be just taking up space that could be used for another abberation (which I need. I almost never pulled it). I also think some tutors or something of the sort would be handy. Any suggestions?
June 15, 2014 12:08 a.m.
spartan989 says... #14
Some Traumatize will be very nice. You want 4 mind funeral. Add in Mindcrank for duskmantle combo. Why the unblockable stuff when you only have 3 ciphers cards. and glispe is awful, put Breaking / Entering
June 16, 2014 4:41 p.m.
spartan989 says... #15
oh sorry i take back the breaking entering and glipse thingy my bad :P
June 16, 2014 4:41 p.m.
slovakattack says... #16
@spartan989: I'm trying to stay away from Mindcrank , as my playgroup isn't a huge fan of infinite combos. That being said, I think I do need a better form of control, possibly. Got any suggestions?
June 16, 2014 6:11 p.m.
spartan989 says... #17
put in Jace, Memory Adept , its efficient mill and card advantage. you would also definitely want things like Thoughtseize , Duress too., to 'control'.
June 16, 2014 7:30 p.m.
slovakattack says... #18
@spartan989: As it so happens, I own a copy of Jace, the Mind Sculptor . I know he isn't legal in modern, but it should be alright in my playgroup. As fun a combo as unblockables/Hands of Binding is, do you think that cards such as Duress , Far / Away , Inquisition of Kozilek , Smother and Shadow of Doubt provide better control?
June 16, 2014 7:36 p.m.
spartan989 says... #19
INquisition of Kozilek is worse than Duress imo. Curess can get rid of really annoying spells, while Kozilek does cannot. What Kozilek can do is get rid of Atheros, which I honestly doubt thats gonna happen. Thoughtseize is simply the best, but you cannot go wrong with duress. It really helps getting rid of mean instants/sorceries, but most IMPORTANTLY: You get to see target players hand. That is awesome, and you should use the information to your advantage.
As for Jace the Mind Sculptor, he is another wincon. (Lucky :P) . Not sure if your playgroup really likes him, but ok :P hes good, and one Jace Memory Adept wont hurt either. :P (his 0 ability: target player mills 10 :o) just shocking stuff :P
I am not a fan of smother unless someone plays low cost creature stuff decks, same goes to inquisition of kozilek. Doom blade and things like that is simply better.
Shadow of Doubt is nice, but maybe sideboard? In modern here at the local lgs, people dont really search their libraries surprisingly, it is a bunch of pay to win players with phyrexian obliterator playsets O-o. Really depends on who you are facing. But once again, it slows down some combo decks.
I am not a fan of Far / Away , I feel Cyclonic Rift is better, with its awesome overload.
And for hands of binding, I am honestly not so sure exactly why. Slap them on 1/1 unblockables, making your other creatures somewhat unblockable? Nice strategy, not bad I would say, but I do not really think it is that good. After all, you are playing control.... sorry if I make some weird points, but I am not the biggest fan of cipher mechanics.
June 16, 2014 7:54 p.m.
spartan989 says... #20
also, Duskmantle Guildmage is not that good if you cant combo :P Hedron Crab to replace him, and replace Shadow of Doubt (if you plan on siding/using) with Archive Trap
:D
June 16, 2014 8:09 p.m.
You could try Wight of Precinct Six for more beatdown. And, in any meta where fetchlands exist, or Birthing Pod , or anything like that, a mill deck should have Archive Trap for shenanigans. You should also have a full 4 Mind Funeral and probably drop Mind Sculpt for Tome Scour - the more Turn 1 options you have, the more explosive the deck will be, since you also want to kill with creatures. Thought Scour is also a good option, and a cantrip. And, if you think you can afford it, Glimpse the Unthinkable is a mill staple.
This deck looks fun! +1
June 17, 2014 2:21 p.m.
slovakattack says... #22
thuzra: True, I'll def. sideboard some Archive Trap . It's such a great card. I may also drop the Mind Sculpt for Tome Scour , it's a better mana-to-mill ratio. Unfortunately, I'm not made of money, so Glimpse the Unthinkable aint' happening. Maybe when it rotates out of modern, we'll see. As for Thought Scour , I'm planning on adding Curiosity to the deck in some form, so I don't think I'll need any more cantrips.
June 17, 2014 9:14 p.m.
What about Stab Wound to ensure Bloodchief Ascension goes off early. Also could help diminish damage output by your opponent.
June 17, 2014 11:41 p.m.
Replace Mind Sculpt with Breaking also I would add Mindcrank for the Infante combo with Dimir Guildmage .
June 18, 2014 10:25 p.m.
slovakattack says... #25
Vito1014 That would be interesting, but a bit of a hard sell considering it's mana cost.
HydraOoze: Like I said in the description, I'm trying to stay away from infinite combos. We'll see, though.
NoSoyYucateco says... #1
Attached* to your Lazav.
June 8, 2014 7:38 p.m.