Asiok doesn't Waste not

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copper231 says... #1

Forgot this part in the destription. I also want to try anf lood my oppents hand so that they have to discard to help pop Waste Not . So any help is always valued!!!!

October 2, 2014 1:25 p.m.

copper231 says... #2

AndFlood

October 2, 2014 1:26 p.m.

Vandegriffe says... #3

I really like the idea of this deck and it seems like it would work. Personally I would substitute the Despise with Thoughtseize also i would definitely put in 4x Mind Sculpt to keep a faster paced mill going. Also I've been playing a standard deck with Worst Fears and although the idea seems like it would be killer, in all honesty it doesn't do much to help you. Another thing you might want to consider is a Fate Unraveler since you have 2x Dictate of Kruphix and some Master of the Feast so you can have the alternative of killing them with life instead of milling them. Add another Dissolve and take out 3x Cancel maybe put in Stubborn Denial or some Negate Other than that I really like this deck.

October 2, 2014 8:33 p.m.

copper231 says... #4

I was thinking about using Despise over the Thoughtseize just cause I would be able to get my hands on some Despise the Thoughtseize . I do see what you are saying about the blue control spells to make the mill a little speedier and making the control more lethal and keeping those big fatties off the field. What about Phenax, God of Deception , Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx , and Empty the Pits ? I have Nykthos and empty in a mono black I run and it's really well and lethal with a spear, whip, and heliod on the field makes it even more crazy. And Phenax would be a good blocker and miller.

October 2, 2014 9:42 p.m.

Vandegriffe says... #5

I would definitely put in the Phenax, God of Deception because you have so many tough creates like Wall of Frost . Empty the Pits is a strong card in a self milling deck, but it might be too expensive to play, even late game, and tap you out, on the other hand you would cause some serious damage by tapping all those 2/2's with Phenax, God of Deception out on the field. I would side board it, Maybe test it a few times depending on the size of the deck and how aggro they are. Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx would be good and you have good devotion with guys such as Master of the Feast and Wall of Frost plus if you put in some Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx you could get some more mana to Empty the Pits . Those 3 cards require some devotion though. so if you do put them in, dont take out those big devtion guys.

October 3, 2014 8:04 a.m.

copper231 says... #6

Ok so I kinda get a little bit of start of a sideboard. I deffinitly need help with that cause I dont play with sideboard cause the concept is very wierd to me. Also i am now 9 cards over withadding 4 Mind Sculpt , 2 Fate Unraveler , 1 Cancel , 1 Dissolve , 2 Stubborn Denial (added 2 cause i didnt know if i should run one or 2), 2 Despise , 2 Thoughtseize , and 3 Phenax, God of Deception . What should be taken out/ reduced?

October 3, 2014 12:37 p.m.

Vandegriffe says... #7

SO for starters you should have a 15 card side board, and basically it s there to use if you play someone that need specific cards to deal with. (ex. sub out Murder for Doom Blade if playing a black deck) Its hard to explain, but that's the gist of it. When I build a deck, I sideboard all the excess cards. (Not a good strategy) but if you notice that they are playing huge creatures toss in 3x AEtherspouts so ou keep them from hitting you to hard. put in 4x Sign in Blood into the side board because you have Fate Unraveler . -2 Coral Barrier -1 Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver because you don't need 4.

October 3, 2014 4:58 p.m.

copper231 says... #8

Ok i see what you are sayin g about the side board. Also I am running only 2 Coral Barrier so should i just take that out completely or only run one or put in a different wall or stick with just 2 Wall of Frost ?

October 6, 2014 12:03 p.m.

copper231 says... #9

For some reason the comments from before the update didnt comeover with it so yea. Basically read the update to see what changed.

October 6, 2014 12:52 p.m.

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