Atraxa, the Anhedonist Overseer and The Syn

Commander / EDH* Neithael

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Prismatic Geoscope + Tezzeret the Seeker + The Chain Veil gets you infinite planeswalker usage, just saying.

November 15, 2016 9:55 a.m.

Neithael says... #2

That's why I am testing Prismatic Geoscope in the moment. I'll see if Armageddon and Ravages of War don't put too much pressure on that particular combo.

Thanks for your comment

November 15, 2016 11 a.m.

Makes sense, but you have Elspeth, Knight-Errant's emblem that can make it a sure-win. Making my own Atraxa atm, gonna get some inspiration from you. Overall have a +1!

November 15, 2016 11:22 a.m.

Neithael says... #4

Thanks for the +1

You're obviously right, but if I got that emblem and an Armageddon effect resolves, I already have won the game

Anyway, thanks for your comments ;)

November 15, 2016 11:36 a.m.

Abattoir says... #5

Curious on the use of Propaganda and Ghostly Prison, if they are in the deck to protect you, as they do nothing to protect your planeswalkers.

November 16, 2016 3:50 a.m.

Neithael says... #6

Well this deck draw a lot of hate as soon as other players figure out what the kind of deck it is.

Propaganda and Ghostly Prison serve me in many way:

  • When on the battlefield and after an Armageddon effect, they deter attack from me.
  • They permit me to live through the early stage of the game, when I am the more vulnerable.
  • They can protect my planeswalkers, when +1 Safety Sphere :p
  • And finally, they can protect my planeswalkers when my opponents think they protect planeswalkers (nobody is perfect; but of course, when asked, i told them they can't protect my planeswalkers)
November 16, 2016 11:36 a.m.

With your deck being creatureless, Invoke Prejudice would be something worth considering.

December 4, 2016 1:56 p.m.

Neithael says... #8

Invoke Prejudice is a great card. I'm worried about the quadruple blue cost. Will be tested!!Thank you for your comment!!

December 4, 2016 4:09 p.m.

sandman1887 says... #9

So I guess this must be a dumb question, but I am still not seeing how the Basalt Monolith + Rings of Brightearth combo works. How can you go negative in your mana pool? have I been missing out on an aspect of how mana pools work for a long time now?

Great deck, I will be using it as a reference as I build my own.

December 22, 2016 2:46 p.m.

To get the combo started you need 2 mana from an outside source.

  1. Tap Basalt Monolith for 3 mana.

  2. Use that 3 mana to untap Basalt Monolith.

  3. Using the 2 mana from an outside source, copy the untap ability with Rings of Brighthearth.

  4. Let the copy resolve, untapping the Basalt Monolith.

  5. With the original untap on the stack, tap Basalt Monolith for 3 more mana. Then let the untap ability resolve.

  6. You're now back at step 1 but with 6 mana floating. Activating the untap ability and paying for Rings of Brighthearth costs a total of 5 mana so you net 1 mana every time. Repeat for "infinite" colorless mana.

December 23, 2016 12:59 a.m.

Neithael says... #11

As Raging_Squiggle indicated: you have to get 2 manas from another source (thus the minus 2 representing a loss of mana in the combo engine).

Thanks you two for your comments

December 23, 2016 1:13 a.m.

sandman1887 says... #12

Got it. That makes a lot more sense. I figured it was the case, it just wasn't clear in the description.

I was wondering about thoughts on either of Ajani Unyielding and Ajani, Valiant Protector as well as Oath of Ajani. Worth putting in? What do they replace if so?

December 23, 2016 1:45 a.m.

Neithael says... #13

Well, I've thought about getting Ajani Unyielding in the 99. Then I've counted the number of non-land permanents: 43.

That mean his +2 will mostly get me only 1 card. That would be sweet if Ajani Unyielding costed 4 manas (he would be aligned to Dovin Baan, Narset Transcendent, Kaya, Ghost Assassin, Jace, Architect of Thought, Jace, the Mind Sculptor, Marchesa's Decree as a card advantage engine. But at six manas, he is less interesting...

his -2 is great but not so useful in a deck with Humility (which I try to get on the battlefield asap).

His ultimate would be great to consider if his starting loyalty was 5 (so instant 10 loyalty counters on other walkers).

Ajani, Valiant Protector, even if the art is really great, is too creature centered to be really considered here (as my 99 is creatureless).

Oath of Ajani's first ability is useless in my deck (since my 99 is creatureless). Which only let the second ability to really consider. And at two manas, I greatly prefer run another mana rock (like Selesnya Signet for example) which is a pseudo 1 mana reduction for my walkers AND for my other non-planeswalker spells.

Thank you for your comment :)

December 23, 2016 3:42 a.m.

Spoosky says... #14

Hi, maybe you can use Inexorable Tide

December 31, 2016 9:04 p.m.

Neithael says... #15

Hi, I think Inexorable Tide is somewhat too slow and do too little on its own to make the cut.

Sure, I play Rings of Brighthearth and Doubling Season, but the former works with 31 cards in the decks (hi reliability) and the latter, immediately followed by a planeswalker is a win on its own (most of the time).

Inexorable Tide, on the other hand wants another card on the field AND in the hand and even then will have a very little impact on the game (in this decklist for instance, on other decklist it can be very very useful).

Thank you for your comment :)

January 2, 2017 9:21 a.m.

Rampollo says... #16

My favorite Atraxa build I've seen. Wish I had the money to do one like this.

January 12, 2017 12:29 a.m.

Neithael says... #17

Thank you for your kind comment :)

Well actually, besides the inventions and the explorations, I haven't spend that much money in this deck: having begun playing magic since 1995 helps a lot to amass great cards. ;)

January 12, 2017 1:54 a.m.

Neithael says... #18

ThoAlmighty: I totally forgot to say to you one thing about the topic of why my deck being creatureless is card advantage, even in a multiplayer game.

Imagine a traditionnal EDH game: 4 players.

One of them have a Swords to Plowshares in hand. If they use it on a creature of another opponent, both of them have a card disadvantage of -1 while I (and the other opponent) haven't lost a single card in the process.

I (and the other opponent) have made card advantage right off thin air.

The same is true with Wrath of God effects.

And, as I have no creature, I always be on the side that gain that kind of card advantage.

So this is the card advantage of being creatureless in a nutshell.

January 17, 2017 7:43 a.m.

entheogeneral says... #19

Questions: why are you running Marchesa's Decree, Codex Shredder, and so many mana rocks? I think your deck would be better with more enchantments to replace those, especially because Sphere of Safety would work better. It's your deck, do what you want, I would just make some different decisions...

March 28, 2017 12:37 p.m.

Neithael says... #20

I run Marchesa's Decree as a better (in my opinion) Phyrexian Arena and before you flew off saying how fool I am, let me explain:

yes, Marchesa's Decree cost one more but:

  • It pays for itself right off the bat (having my Phyrexian Arena Naturalized too often in my taste is making me feel angry)

  • It isn't black mana hungry (well, this deck is a four color deck afterall)

  • It somewhat protects my planeswalkers from token massive army

  • It doesn't cost me life over time

The story for Codex Shredder is different:

this little artifact can totally hose an end of turn Vampiric Tutor and the like.

Bonus point: when i got "infinite" colorless mana (with the Rings of Brighthearth and Basalt Monolith combo), i can retrieve my entire graveyard in my hand.

The mana rocks are here to help me ramp so I can lockdown the game much faster.

Sphere of Safety isn't that central to the deck: I prefer greatly Moat + Humility lockdown

March 29, 2017 6:24 a.m.

entheogeneral says... #21

Okay, I understand the Codex Shredder bit, but the first one just doesn't do it for me. Although the 'or a planeswalker you control' part seems almost worth it. To each his own, I'm running things you definitely wouldn't run.

March 29, 2017 11:23 a.m.

Neithael says... #22

Well the problem I have with Sphere of Safety is that alone it is a bit overpricey for its effect. It needs other enchantments to work well. But I am not in the mood to add worthless enchantments to make it work.

By the way, what are these things you run that I wouldn't? Just a bit curious.

Anyway, thanks for your comments :)

March 30, 2017 3:35 a.m.

Winterblast says... #23

I'm also currently playing an Atraxa Stax, but it's a bit different, you can have a look here:


Atraxa's super(un)friendly Stax

Commander / EDH Winterblast

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When plaiyng Stax I don't really like to have so many removals but rather proactive control elements, which prevent other people from playing in the first place. I'm surprised you don't play Tangle Wire, which is great with both Doubling Season and the commander (I know you want to stay at 0 creatures, but there's a . Also Smokestack fits in nicely, you could absolutely cut some one-time removal for more constant disruption.

Also, cost increasing stuff, such as Sphere of Resistance, Thorn of Amethyst, and in black most important Nether Void often helps that other players can't even get their game going at all, but you would need more speed as well then. I even play all these artifact stax pieces as an alternative win con with Mechanized Production. Infinite mana is nice, but I'd rather trade it for a constant fast start with every available and mana artifact

I don't really see how Marchesa's Decree does much besides making you the Monarch ONCE, then painting a target on your head...losing one life for attacking you won't keep anyone from doing that and chances you become the monarch again are low with no creatures. This feels like giving extra cards to your opponents for a very low price. I'd rather have other slowdown stuff for creature based decks, such as Overburden, Tainted AEther, maybe AEther Barrier or pieces for possible locks, for example Land Equilibrium (which leaves everyone at 0 lands after Armageddon, if you won't play a land again - easily possible with more mana artifacts). I've even won games with a turn 1 or turn 2 Land Equilibrium, it's a pretty sick card.

March 30, 2017 5:09 a.m.

Winterblast says... #24

...there's a half sentence missing in the first pragraph, I wanted to Point out that there's a possible lock with Tangle Wire and Gilder Bairn, but if you want to stay at 0 creatures, also not including utility creatures, you probably won't consider it. I play Humility myself but some creatures are too good to cut them all imo. There's never a 100% Chance that Humility comes into play and stays in play anyway.

March 30, 2017 5:15 a.m.

Neithael says... #25

Interesting take on stax atraxa.

And your suggestion are really great.

As for the Marchesa's Decree discussion, there also some things you haven't notice (i guess):

  • First of all: introducing monarch in a multiplayer commander game allows me to dether attacks (except the first to giving up monarchy) from me (because attacking someone and getting one card is juicy)

  • Second: i have two ways to recover the monarch statut: either by blinking Marchesa's Decree, courtesy of Venser, the Sojourner or by sacrifiyng Throne of the High City

March 30, 2017 5:41 a.m.

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