happygilmore511 says... #2
Hey pal, idk if you've noticed, but a bunch of the new cards are already in the system. You can go ahead and add 'em to the list. As of right now though, Grim Flayer is still absent. I went ahead and added Rakshasa Deathdealer instead to proxy.
July 6, 2016 2:31 p.m.
Thanks happygilmore511. I have noticed. I am currently brewing in a copied version of this deck. I am going to be making lots of changes methinks. I am sad that Grim Flayer is mythic and already going for like $15, because I definitely want a playset of him in favor of Obsessive Skinner. I also would like to switch Ob Nixilis Reignited for the new Liliana since she works better with delirium. I also want to add in Gnarlwood Dryad. Here is my potential new decklist for EMN:
4x Autumnal Gloom Flip (SOI)
4x Evolving Wilds (BFZ)
6x Forest (SOI)
4x Gnarlwood Dryad (EMN)
2x Grapple with the Past (EMN)
2x Hissing Quagmire (OGW)
2x Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip (ORI)
4x Llanowar Wastes (ORI)
2x Mindwrack Demon (SOI)
2x Mournwillow (EMN)
2x Murder (EMN)
4x Rakshasa Deathdealer (SOI)
2x Soul Swallower (SOI)
7x Swamp (SOI)
2x The Gitrog Monster (SOI)
3x Traverse the Ulvenwald (SOI)
4x Ultimate Price (DTK)
I put in the flip Liliana as a placeholder for Liliana, the Last Hope, and Rakshasa Deathdealer in for Grim Flayer as you suggested. It will obviously need some playtesting, but I think it could be effective. Let me know what you think
July 6, 2016 3:18 p.m.
It would be fun to try and work in Permeating Mass if for nothing else than that card being hilarious.
July 6, 2016 3:27 p.m.
Cragon18 have you seen Noose Constrictor? It's a new uncommon snake creature card.Now I'm kind of not the greatest with all of Tappedout's features yet so let me just tell you what it is. Or just go to this link if you want instead.
http://www.magicspoiler.com/mtg-spoiler/noose-constrictor/
It's a 2/2, Reach snake for 1 Colourless and green mana that has the ability to discard a card to give Noose Constrictor +1/+1 until end of turn. (Not a tap ability). Now with this card besides for madness costs, could be useful in your deck for the purpose of having delirium. You can discard a land, creature, etc, just like that.
July 6, 2016 5:57 p.m.
happygilmore511 says... #6
I really wanted the Mass too. But the only time I could find it better than Gnarlwood was when it was blocking in the first few turns against humans decks. After turn 3 you've got delirium and gnarlwood is just better.
I like your list. Its pretty similar to the one I've been working with, just some quantity differences. I'm also not running Autumnal Gloom Flip because it's always underperformed for me, but I know you won't cut it.
That snake spoiled really confused me. I couldn't figure out what deck it was for. The discard MIGHT be useful for delirium, but most of the time you'd want sylvan advocate or grim flayer.
July 6, 2016 7:25 p.m.
Delta-117 I did see Noose Constrictor. Very intriguing card. I feel that it is somehow busted in Modern or other formats, but being fairly new to Mtg, I don't know all of these things. I could potentially work in this deck. While I have a lot of 1 and 2 drops already, you could turn 1: Evolving Wilds or Traverse the Ulvenwald, turn 2: Grim Flayer, and turn 3 Noose Constrictor and then discard to acheive delirium and swing for 4 trample with Flayer and reset the top of your deck. Of course that is an ideal scenario and assumes you have the cards in hand that would help achieve delirium. Aside from that, I feel it would be a somewhat wasted card in this deck late game.
Yeah happygilmore511, Gnarlwood is a superior card in this deck for sure. I feel you would need to brew a build just for that card, but that is a topic for another day. I am surprised that Autumnal Gloom Flip underperformed! That is often the best card in my deck. Most people in Standard do not have an answer for hexproof creatures. It has performed especially well against control decks. Most of the time I buff it with Obsessive Skinner to get it out of Languish range and then it is pretty much untouchable (apart from being blocked with a bigger creature or deathtouch of course). I also rarely use it for delirium enabling and just bring it out after delirium and flip it.
July 7, 2016 7:43 a.m.
happygilmore511 says... #8
Maybe I'm too aggressive. Do you leave it back as a blocker most of the time?
How do you usually get delirium, and how soon? I've been getting it in the first 3 turns, but that's only because of Vessel of Nascency. Does your deck get it more incidentally in the mid game?
July 7, 2016 12:31 p.m.
If I have delirium, I normally swing with whatever is on my board and then Autumnal Gloom Flip flips on my endstep and is there as a blocker. After that it depends on the game if I am aggressive or not with it.
I get delirium between turns 4-6 most games. I get it from Evolving Wilds, Corpse Churn, through casting instant/sorcery spells, and Mindwrack Demon. If I had an aim to get delirium as quickly as possible I would probably add Vessel back into the deck. I think with the new cards that have been spoiled, it will be really easy to achieve delirium quickly without using Vessel. I also don't have a ton of delirium cards in this current build, so that was part of my decision of not going all in to get delirium quickly. My EMN build will be trying to get delirium ASAP, because the effects are just too good.
July 7, 2016 2 p.m.
Here's a new card relevant to delirium.
http://www.mythicspoiler.com/emn/cards/cropsigil.html
July 7, 2016 4:17 p.m.
This is currently my favorite build (your current and new deck after EMN) I'll continue to follow to update my Jund delirium. Thank you!
July 10, 2016 1:54 a.m.
Thanks a lot Philo_Lij! This is a really fun deck to play. I am really excited to update for EMN but will probably keep playing this one online. I am considering starting a delirium forum/group for everyone to share decks/ideas and in order to feature the best decks on tappedout(unless there is already one??). I'll share it here once I start it.
Delta-117, I did see Crop Sigil. I am on the fence about it. On one hand it's a good 1 drop that can help achieve delirium, and then for 3 mana return land and a creature. I like that there is a 'may' clause in the upkeep step and there is no further cost investment to put a card in the graveyard unlike Autumnal Gloom Flip which I find terrible for achieving delirium. I'd have to play with it, but initial impression is I would rather use 2 Grapple with the Past same cmc that mills for 6 and returns creatures or lands, unless I needed additional card types in my graveyard of course.
July 10, 2016 11:48 a.m.
Hey all, feel free to check out the new delirium forum I created! All Things Delirium
July 10, 2016 4:59 p.m.
happygilmore511 says... #15
My concern with the sigil is that once you've got delirium, it activates and removes 2 card types, potentially turning off your delirium
July 10, 2016 8:21 p.m.
DSTravis86 says... #16
Got to say, the deck looks lovely and I simply can't wait to see the changes you plan on doing with Eldritch Moon
August 14, 2016 2:46 p.m.
Grim Flayer is the best delirium card out there right now.
August 15, 2016 2:03 p.m.
thecakeisalie42 says... #18
Flayer is indeed amazing. Maybe cut some skinners and frogs?
August 15, 2016 9:22 p.m.
happygilmore511 says... #19
Psa, this is the soi version of the deck. There is an updated emn version on its own page
August 16, 2016 12:30 a.m.
Thanks DSTravis86, mack10k, and thecakeisalie42. What happygilmore511 says is true. This is my SOI build. I kept it up because i still like it a lot. This is my EMN build which I might like even more..
Cragon18 says... #1
Thanks for the feedback MotherMoose. While Groundskeeper does help with Gitrog (and as happygilmore511 pointed out it does not grab Evolving Wilds), I chose not to put it in because I very rarely have trouble with land. I also have plenty of ways to go find land if I am really land screwed via Traverse the Ulvenwald and Grapple with the Past (once I add it to the deck) and Nissa.
Delta-117 I previously had Alchemist's Vial in the deck, but I found that other than driving delirium it wasn't the best card overall and took space away from more powerful cards. If I ever wanted to go all in on Emrakul, I would definitely put it or another artifact in the deck to help make her cheaper. I would probably consider Wild-Field Scarecrow or Hangarback Walker over vial though.
July 6, 2016 2:16 p.m.