Deathstroke2791 says... #2
Shit... Some of those were suppossed to be Maybeboard cards.
March 30, 2017 2:28 a.m.
Hipparchos says... #3
No worries! ;)
I've ordered a foil Brion Stoutarm yesterday. Can't wait to make this deck.
March 30, 2017 9:38 a.m.
Deathstroke2791 says... #4
It's really fun. And if you can get a good first fling, it's really resilient becuase of the life that you gain from it.
March 30, 2017 11:40 p.m.
griffstick says... #5
Wow good job 100% better then it looked half a yr ago
March 31, 2017 5:57 a.m.
Deathstroke2791 says... #7
Although I will say I'm trying to lower the curve.
April 1, 2017 1:43 a.m.
UpsettingTruth says... #8
Looks good, where's the Boros Charm to combo with Bearer of the Heavens?
April 26, 2017 5:01 p.m.
Snogglesworth says... #9
I mean now that you're playing Boros Charm, maybe you want a Sunforger package as well.
September 2, 2021 2:19 a.m.
Deathstroke2791 says... #10
Snogglesworth, maybe? I guess all my instants are already usable under Sunforger, but I don't think I'd change anything out to specifically adjust for the change. If I were to put Sunforger itself in, what would you take out?
September 2, 2021 11:41 p.m.
Snogglesworth says... #11
I'd cut Monologue Tax. It just isn't that great.
September 2, 2021 11:54 p.m.
Deathstroke2791 says... #12
I have had nothing but good experiences with Monologue Tax. Serves me well.
September 3, 2021 12:31 a.m.
griffstick says... #13
I would also cut the tax I think Thran Dynamo can replace it.
September 3, 2021 3:47 p.m.
Deathstroke2791 says... #14
I can test the cut of Monologue Tax with Sunforger, but I am just not a fan of Thran Dynamo. It being four mana to cast and only tapping for colored, any time it's been in my hand before I've always wanted to cast something else. My group is just a LITTLE too fast for it.
September 14, 2021 11:05 p.m.
Deathstroke2791 says... #15
WotanubisReturned, not a fan of the infinite combos. It's just not my playstyle, but there are some small synergies that might show some use here. I'll let you know if I find anything.
September 19, 2021 2:29 p.m.
BX223Hunter says... #16
Not even one little threaten effect? That’s reusable? And on a creature? Captivating Crew
September 21, 2021 9:39 a.m.
Deathstroke2791 says... #17
BX223Hunter, Captivating Crew used to be in the deck, but it just takes too much mana to get going. If it were a cheaper activation cost I might consider it. But, if it makes you feel any better Captivating Crew was the LAST threaten effect to be removed.
September 21, 2021 9:50 a.m.
Deathstroke2791 says... #19
griffstick, nothing in particular was cut for Captivating Crew. It was my last threaten effect in the deck before the massive update, so there were several swap-outs.
September 21, 2021 7:14 p.m.
Deathstroke2791 says... #20
griffstick, nothing in particular was cut for Captivating Crew. It was my last threaten effect in the deck before the massive update, so there were several swap-outs.
September 21, 2021 7:15 p.m.
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor says... #21
Have you considered Emeria Shepherd? It's great recursion and not a bad fling target itself. Also, Flameshadow Conjuring or Rionya, Fire Dancer could be fun. They let you get an attack in and then you can fling the token before the end of turn/combat.
September 23, 2021 11:57 a.m.
Deathstroke2791 says... #22
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor, Emeria Shepherd is too slow. If I don't have a Plains to play the turn it comes in, I lose SO much tempo. If it were to revive something upon entry, it might have earned a spot, but it used to be in the deck, and I was always underwhelmed when I played it. Flameshadow Conjuring has been in this list before, but I always found that extra mana to be a little lacking. However, since the deck has become more mana efficient, then it might qualify for a spot again. What would you suggest to take out? Now Rionya, Fire Dancer looks like some straight GAS. I am going to find a spot for this and hope that it's worth it. Although I will say, her and Flameshadow Conjuring might be competing for the same spot since they have similar effects.
September 23, 2021 11:58 p.m.
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor says... #23
That concern about Flameshadow Conjuring (the extra mana and high cmc creatures) actually came to my mind after suggesting it. In reality it is 2 extra mana since you need to activate Brion so I could see it being tough to pull off. As far as Rionya goes though, she is a blast. I actually have a whole deck built around her and it is super fun.
As far as cut's go, that is tough. This list is pretty tight as is. In you description you mentioned difficulty getting Felidar Sovereign wins, so maybe that one? Otherwise, Malignus seems like it could have a pretty low floor at times.
September 24, 2021 1:54 a.m.
Deathstroke2791 says... #24
Well, I normally like to have at least one "you win the game" cards in my decks as an out if an opponent is stopping my strategies. So that's why the Felidar Sovereign, but I just found out about Angel of Destiny. OOOOOO BUDDY! That's essentially the same win-con but I don't have to wait a whole spin around the table. So, Angel of Destiny will probably take that slot.
You are kinda right about Malignus though. When it's come in late game, it's a mild bummer to not be able to finish someone off. It doesn't matter whether an opponent's life total is 40 of 4, it's always going to deal half. My one concern about that is that I'd be losing one of my bulky creatures. If I go too heavy on the copying effects, and not heavy enough on the actual hitters themselves, there won't be enough bodies to throw around. I'm not saying you're not right; I am saying if I do make the cut, I need to find some other bulky creatures to include in other spots.
September 24, 2021 3:02 a.m.
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor says... #25
Oh yeah, Angel of Destiny is great in this deck, just make sure you give it haste since it needs to have dealt combat damage in order for the trigger to go off.
That's a fair point about Malignus, and don't forget, it's P/T is half the life total of the opponent with the highest life total. So you can still one-shot another opponent if they have less life than that. I guess then I would look at something like Wayfarer's Bauble or Gift of Immortality. I rarely advocate cutting ramp, but you already have about 12 ramp spells, so cutting one of the weaker options is a possibility. Likewise with Gift, you have a fair number of reanimation options already that are better or cover a wider number of creatures all at once. You could probably get by without Gift.
Just an aside. I am a huge fan of Sejiri Shelter Flip in most white decks. I generally play it as a land, but in a pinch I can use it as a protection spell.
Hipparchos says... #1
Great Primer! +1
But you have 104 cards in your main deck. :)
March 29, 2017 6:20 p.m.