enpc: Sigarda is better for anti sac protection only but she/tajuru can run in Uril and the pool against exile/boardwipe is the same in green/white(indestructible/phase out), Ojutai has draw/blue/no green and need vigilance to keep hexproof, but against Uril and in "voltron" pespective Sigarda and he are so slow to finish one player, Rafiq have blue but is more board dependent against wipes, Uril have acess to red(combat phases/deflects/situational counters etc) and auras are worst than equips but he have an good pool to auras who grants +5+X/effects to him with one mana and with a few auras and kediss/ignition/etc can finish a game without give 21 combat dmg in each of 3 players for example.

Huanor: Sigarda can definitely be run in Uril but having the effect as your commander is much stronger. In addition, Sigarda natureally has evasion, meaning that even without drawing into buff effects she has a much higher chance of getting in damage earlier, which is crucial for Voltron.

Similarly, Ojutai has natural evasion, as well as access to plenty of unblockable effects. Additionally, Ojutai decks are generally much more instant/sorcery heavy and so can leverage cards like Runechanter's Pike to do a lot of damage very quickly. And yes, Ojutai needs vigilance to provide true hexproof, however has a full suite of counterspells to lean on, as opposed to the 3 decent ones that Uril does (2 of which are only good against blue and all three of which are bad against warths).

Rafiq, while not having protection built in is by far the fastest to lay down damage. Additionally, he also has counterspell backup to keep himself alive.

Uril may have access to extra combat step effects, but both Ojutai and Rafiq have access to extra turn spells, which are far better.

In all honesty while I love these piles, I do think two commanders here are overrated. Yiddish, which while being a great storm commander simply casting it and connecting is hard enough now and we have good enough storm to go off in those colors without it at all, making it much worse than it used to be. Cards like Jeska's Will and Peer into the Abyss have been released and shown its just easier to run a pile like Kenrith, Codie, or Thrasios/Smasher for storm and I don't think Yidris is a relevant threat in the highest of competitive tables like it used to be.

Similarly, despite my love for Sidisi Food Chain/Hermit Druid piles, it sadly isn't a commander that has the legs that lists like Gitrog, Krark/Sakashima and other more focused decks I just don't see it where it used to be.

Also Sythis seems to be a tier lower than I'd expect, and I haven't seen more than one obeka list and it just seemed like a strange turns style deck based around trying to get a Final Fortune on an Isochron Scepter/Elite Arcanist is this the same list mentioned here? It ran the other sorcery turn spells of the same style and had snapcaster and friends to try and go infinite turns but felt too gimmicky for me.

Dang autocorrect, I meant Yidris, not Yiddish. I used to be able to speak Yiddish too but haven't found that useful in cedh recently.

As for Anowon, this could be a good list which would place him into Fringe Competitive tier https://www.moxfield.com/decks/v3sYdIvH40K4iWuHQUyaEw

Hi, i like the tier list. How do you look to add Pir, Imaginative Rascal and Toothy, Imaginary Friend in Competitive section (up to one tier)? Commander can easy win without any combo using toothy flicking. Toothy text ("when leave the battlefield") create it real problem for another opponents (hullbreacher was banned). Also deck use many utility lands with special effects and synergies instead of another decks (mystic sanctuary, Homeward Path, High market, Urza's Saga) I imagine pir and toothy have all for add to competitive zone. what do you think about it?

I wonder if it's possible to make a Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy brostorm deck similar to Selvala, Heart of the Wilds or is it too much work around? I had a fat creature deck with Kinnan but it was pretty slow.

ErgoLux: I could support that deck as a good example of fringe competitive. It feels like a a bit of an Edric Lite™ deck, however given that Edric is in the competitive category, I think that fringe competitive is a good call. It's interesting to see the lack of extra turn spells by comparison, but the fact the the deck has access to black allows for a different line.

Good thing with Anowon is that he is able to lock some of the important pieces of competitive game. He can mill-out valuables and then exile a graveyard or lock it down with some other cards.

Hey, I noticed that zedruu dropped to mid tier and phelddagrif is jumped up to high power. I have always found zedruu fare more effective at winning and phelddagrif being more group hug. What made you switch there positions?

I'm surprised to see Kaalia of the Vast in "Tier 2: Highly Competitive" alongside commanders like Sisay, Weatherlight Captain and The Gitrog Monster. How does Kaalia compete with something like Gitrog + Dakmor Salvage combo?

Sephyrias apparently her ability to have demons that tutor via ETB and being able to use stax. I don't know...I saw the decklists and I am disgusted by the lack of dragons and angels as well as finding like.... TWO demons.

I prefer flooding the board with big creatures and smashing face. Thank god for Tiamat and I don't care she's "fringe competitive" she's nipping at Scion's heels for kickass 5 colored dragon.

I am now mulling over building around Selvala, Heart of the Wilds.

She can also cheat in Razaketh, the Foulblooded. There are a few mardu combos there. In addition, she can cheat in Bogardan Hellkite and then set up Worldgorger Dragon loops. Not saying that Tier 2 is or isn't suitable for her, but those are defnitely some outs that she has.

see...you have more dragons than the lists I read, enpc.

Commander_JAR: I mean, this was just me doing some googling and then going, "yeah, those lines should work" :P so not specifically my list (since I don't actually have a Kaalia list).

Sephyrias

Kaalia is a really strong cEDH commander. She cheats in Razaketh, Villis and other incredibly strong Demons that allow you to tutor up or draw into game winning combos very easily. A single attack trigger of Kaalia is enough to pretty much end a game.

These are two ways to build her:

• moxfield. com/decks/3Nb5DWbEDUWcZOA4bzbr_Q

• moxfield. com/decks/EWyavJ8X1EKyOmsxZm9dvg

How is Jodah, Archmage Eternal High Power if you can literally tutor Omniscience and go nuts with whatever combo you have in mind?

Commander_JAR: I mean, you have to tutor Omniscience, than still have to cast it for 5 mana (and WUBRG at that) and have it resolve. Once you've gotten that far, you need another way that you can draw your deck (remembering that Omniscience doesn't help with abilities, X spells or alternate costs). So chances are you're generaing infinite mana at some point to help the process along (maybe via a Palinchron which turns a free spell into actual mana) but at that point you could have just played any infinite mana combo. And Jodah does nothing to actually help you draw your deck.

He's cute for battlecruiser builds since everything costs 5 mana, but once you move into the realms of combo then he does next to nothing to either assemble or gain benefit from the combo. At that point he just gives you access to WUBRG, which a bunch of other commanders do too.

Commander_JAR

He doesn't provide card advantage, nor ramp. He's not part of a combo or anything. What he does is that he gives 5c identity and lets you cheat out big spells. Spells, you wouldn't play otherwise and that for example really hurt if you are playing AdNaus (which you should, if you are in Black.)

In order to do anything substantial with Jodah, you need to 1. Ramp into him, ramp into WUBRG (5 pips is a lot) and then still tutor for the right spell (let's say Omniscience), have it resolve, than draw into more stuff to assemble a game winning combo.

You could also just go for any other 5c commander, that actually does something useful and win with a straight forward combo like Oracl-Consult or Breach-Freeze.

Therefore, Jodah is only in HP.

@Imposter: Zedruu the Greathearted is a very fun group hug commander, who can also generate card advantage, BUT you need a lot of protection for Zedru and you have to play bad cards in your deck to get the best out of Zedru. You need so many resources to get him to work and without him, your deck is filled with a lot of horrible cards. So If you want to get the most value out of him, you have to play them, and then you also have to use Zedrus ability to give away these bad permanents. If you play this deck against advanced players, they will always remove Zedru when your bad permanent is on the stack. In this scenario you'll find yourself stuck in a very bad position. Some of these permanents you try to play in Zedru straight up loose you the game if you don't get rid of them. Phelddagrif is also often played as a group hug deck, he's a political tool (gift blockers to somebody who's in trouble), he can protect himself and he's an infinite mana outlet in the commandzone and he's part of an infinite combo with Suture Priest.

@Sephyrias: Mardu is currently in a pretty strong state of the meta, because of meta defining cards like Dockside Extortionist, Underworld Breach, Silence, Ad Nauseam/Necropotence/Peer into the Abyss, all the black tutors and all the asymmetrical stax pieces like Drannith Magistrate/Dauthi Voidwalker/Esper Sentinel/Grand Abolisher etc. The main reason of Kaalia's power is the fact that she can consistently cheat one of the following demons on the field in the first few rounds of the game: Razaketh, the Foulblooded or Vilis, Broker of Blood (Rune-Scarred Demon, Burning-Rune Demon, Doom Whisperer) Anyone who has ever played against a completely tuned Kaalia deck knows that the game is usually over as soon as one of the demons is on the battlefield and you have no answer for it. You can read exactly how this works (like Eisenherz wrote) in the respective Kaalia cEDH primers, but the deck has several combo lines to finish the game.

@Commander_JAR: I think you don't really understand the difference between high powered EDH and cEDH. Have you ever even bothered to read the Kaalia (cEDH) primer, why they only play 3-5 demons? Because they need the other deckslots for protection, interaction, carddraw, ramp and for tutors to find Razaketh. Flooding the board with Dragons Angels and attacking is maybe fun for you but a completely different strategy and by far not as effective as comboing with the demons... Please do us all a favour and educate yourself on the subject of competitive EDH before you post your opinion about ranking commanders. Take atleast a look at a few cEDH matches, deck techs and in general the currently strongest decklists (https://cedh-decklist-database.com) in the format and WHY they are as strong as they are.

Please read the description of the Tier List here, because we explain the difference between a strong and a competitive commander. I can highly recommend the youtube channel and the podcast of Playing with Power MTG, there you'll find many interesting videos on the subject of Competetive EDH (https://youtu.be/FwJyb8vk--4).

This is a great list and I appreciate the work that has gone into it. I'd like to add this to the List of Lists of you don't mind.

@Gattison: Sure, glad you like it :)

You misspelled Competitive in the lower description box of the tier lists (and then spelt it correctly for fringe competitive). Anyways thanks for the hard work, keep it up!

I am not sure how Mizzix is in "Fringe competitive", since she is able to win quite fast and is in good colors. She only need two counters which you can get with a card with proliferate and she is of to the races...

Mizzix has a bit of trouble in the current cEDH meta full of turbo AdNauseum decks and Stax decks (with Rule of Law-effects). Mizzix is a really strong commander, but he needs quite some setup to go off. When your Mizzix is getting countered, you'll fall back because your x-spells and your additional combo/storm lines don't really work without him and if you want to win with Underworld Breach-lines, there are just better commanders out there for doing that. Mizzix is at the moment a bit of an off meta deck (at least in cEDH), which doesn't mean that it's bad. Show us your list, maybe have overseen something.