if you went like half soul sisters design with bitterbloom would be pretty interesting.

I would up the Auriok Champion to 2 or 3 because it completely negates the negative side of Bitterblossom and is very hard to get rid of.

The problem with Bitterblossom is this: T1, you play a Godless Shrine and you hopefully cast a hand disruption.

T2 you have 2 mana up and in your hand you have Raise the Alarm, Intangible Virtue and Bitterblossom. Which do you play first? Well, Raise the Alarm gives you some blockers and little threats, Intangible Virtue gives you a boost to them and Bitterblossom just STARTS a never ending chain of one creature per turn. If you play BB, you become a turn behind because BB doesn't take effect till the next turn. If you play Intangible Virtue then it doesn't take effect till next turn but, all your tokens get a boost. If you play Raise the Alarm then you have some creatures out in play that can be boosted.

T3 if you played Bitterblossom you are most likely a turned behind because you have nothing out. If you played Raise the Alarm it opens up for either Intangible Virtue or more tokens coming out and vice versa if you played Intangible Virtue.

T4 (if you didn't play BB), you drew more token generation so you would play that because they have an effect right away and by the time you can actually play Bitterblossom, you either already won the game or it will not even have an effect on the boardstate.

That's just my 2 cents about it. It's an interesting card but, it is really awkward on the curve with B/W tokens.

Your game group must not be like mine JakeKita winning on turn four with creatures doesn't happen here. Creature destruction happens constanly turn 2 on. Bile Blight, Pyroclasm, Infest and Anger of the Gods are the ones i see constantly. (I really hate Bile Blight)

I would side in Duress or Tidehollow Sculler to at least get as much hand disruption as possible then D:

I agree i think Duress would do him a lot of good there. What is your meta like Lifa?

derickmoore25 I actually have no idea. I'm a big standard player and just starting to get into modern and i love to play tokens so i figured this would be a fun start.

JakeKita Thanks! I haven't done a ton of playtesting yet because i don't own most of these cards this is just a deck i thought would be fun to play and start with and get the cards when i can. What do you think of keeping 2 in mainboard and putting 2 to side against control?

If you run Bitterblossom, you want all 4 or none. I would go with 4 Thoughtseize and 3 Inquisition of Kozilek and then keep Duress in the side against decks that derickmoore25 has to play against. If you really do go the Bitterblossom path then I would drop to 2 Dismember and up to one Auriok Champion and then drop the 2 Duress into side to up Bitterblossom to 4. If you don't decide the Bitterblossom then take a look at xzzane's Swarm and Conquer V 2.0 deck. It is really the basis of b/w tokens without Bitterblossom and he can give a much better reasoning behind Bitterblossom than I can ever.

Jake, is that the same explanation I gave to you?

Well, I also forgot to add the most simple one: Helps in matches you are already strong against and weak against matches you are already weak against.

(Regarding the curve of blossom). But if you want help, I can offer my assistance.

Hahahahaha I find it funny that you've almost copied what I told you xD But yeah, that's the basis. I can go further into the pros or the cons should you desire, lifa.

Well lol, I realized the curve part on my own but, I did not know about it being strong vs weak example

Oh yeah, you were one of the ones that actually understood the curve of blossom. The vast majority of people I help I've had to explain that too.

xzzane If you could that would be awesome. To me it seems like it would be a really good card to have in b/w tokens. Then again I'm getting into modern as of about 3 days ago.

Actually though while I think about it: Bitterblossom has a way of working. What if you mainboard Timely Reinforcements?

Ok, so Jake did a pretty good job of explaining the curve. To go just a little further, turn 2 is the most ideal turn to play blossom, and its for this reason you need a full play set for it to show. However if you draw it later on it becomes a potential dead draw and having multiple blossoms out can be deadly. Blossom also helps against creature based decks like abzan, but tokens already does well against those decks. It hinders us in matchups that tokens aren't as good against, like twin or burn for example. What is your meta?

And cifka did that at the pro tour, Jake. Pretty good decision on his part.

Haha it's actually a pretty cool combo granted it is entirely meta dependent

Ok. So say i take out the BB's, what would i replace them with? And say i go that route using the bitterblossom how would i go about that using the Timely Reinforcements?

Well a non BB list runs 4 Raise the Alarm, Spectral Procession, and Lingering Souls as its token suite. So the primary difference is you would swap BB for raise. And you would probably be best off replacing auriok for Timely Reinforcements if you want to add it.

xzzaneOk. Thanks a ton for your help and also for creating your decklist cause thats been a huge help. I think i'll take out the BB cause you were right. What would you replace the BB in my list for?

If you like it, I wouldn't mind an upvote :D Shameless plug right there. But thanks! It's my brainchild, I've spent so much time on it over the years. And take out BB for Raise the Alarm.

xzzaneI already have Raise the Alarm. I had BB, Raise, Lingering, and Spectral as token generators.