Bitterblossom is modern? When did this happen??

Modern Lifa

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xzzane says... #1

Jetlag. It does things to you. That, and I just didn't check properly. But let's go with the convenient excuse of jetlag :p Well if you already have 4 of raise, spectral, and lingerg, you're good on the token end of things. I would add 1 Inquisition of Kozilek, 1 Honor of the Pure, and 1 Auriok Champion. Obviously, this is the same list that my personal token deck mainboards, but any other advice wouldn't be what I considered to be best haha.

April 12, 2015 8:55 p.m.

Lifa says... #2

xzzane Lol thanks a ton! I'll do some more research but thanks a ton for your help.

April 12, 2015 8:57 p.m.

xzzane says... #3

You're welcome! If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

April 12, 2015 9:03 p.m.

With the sheer amount of spells you run, it might be worth swapping some amount of Dismember to Murderous Cut. This also runs the slight side advantage of weakening enemy goyfs.

April 15, 2015 7:32 a.m.

JakeKita says... #5

Dismember is much more versitile because of being able to cast it T1 vs cut on T3-4. Maybe tho drop to 2 dismember and go up one anuik (sorry on mobile lol)

April 15, 2015 7:36 a.m.

Lifa says... #6

To me, I feel like I need more removal than life gain in this deck. Generally if it gets to layer game I'll have a vault of the archangel that I can activate every turn to gain life if need be.

April 15, 2015 12:23 p.m.

Kre says... #7

Mentor of the Meek is always a good card to have with token decks, it allows you to draw cards to get the most out of your turn, but you have the option not to draw, which makes it even better. I would take out Inquisition of Kozilek since you already have Thoughtseize to control their hand, and i would add more kill spells.

April 22, 2015 9:34 a.m.

This happened years ago, in case you're wondering.

April 25, 2015 8:33 p.m.

Lifa says... #9

Oh i know. But I've only been playing a year sooooooo eh. To me it was news

April 25, 2015 8:38 p.m.

MikeTG says... #10

Hahaha, i bet you bought the modern event deck, right? It's a good choice, the most valued b/w token deck is from a guy that change two cards of that list. My only recommendation is trying Sorin, Lord of Innistrad, it's almost the same, but his emblem is very powerful for tokens.

April 25, 2015 11:28 p.m.

xzzane says... #11

MikeTG could you elaborate on what you mean by the most valued is one that only changed two cards? And Elspeth is better for a non blossom list, solemn visitor is better for a blossom list.

April 26, 2015 12:26 a.m.

MikeTG says... #12

Swarm and Conquer V 2.0 260 score, not bad. You see, with a few changes, you can have that deck, the modern event deck, after all

April 26, 2015 3:30 a.m.

Lifa says... #13

Yes i know about that deck but I'm doing my own spin on b/w tokens.

April 26, 2015 10:09 a.m.

xzzane says... #14

Yeah...I made Swarm and Conquer V 2.0. There are a hell of a lot more than just 2 changes from the modern event deck. And I've been playing tokens long before the modern event deck. And lifa wants to do a blossom oriented token deck anyways, so swarmy isn't that much use to look off of.

April 26, 2015 10:34 a.m.

drakendark says... #15

splash red for some fun with Impact Tremors

I see that being fun with Bitterblossom

could also use Hammer of Purphoros with red or Emblem of the Warmind. I've always thought Ashling's Prerogative had its situational use as well.

April 27, 2015 2:48 p.m.

JakeKita says... #16

@drakendarkSplashing colors can sometimes take away focus. You have to remember some cards are much higher in the pecking order of being played.

Think of it turn by turn. Impact Tremors needs to be played early- nuf said. All the spells you are listing have to come in right at the beginning. The issue with this is the same that sometimes Bitterblossom causes: Your defense, offense, FOCUS, is a bunch of 1/1 tokens. Your sustainability is those tokens. You NEED to play them. You need black to help sustain that. White is the real pushing force of the deck. This deck's focus is Bitterblossom. That being said, he needs to have a black source AND white source T1. If he is now stuck with Impact Tremors, Bitterblossom, Raise the Alarm, and an anthem in his hand, one of those enchantments will not be played. Assuming he would play Bitterblossom first, he also needs more support so etiher Raise the Alarm or an anthem will come into play. After that, he still has that Impact Tremors in his hand. The card has lost it's FULL value not being out right away.

Let's pretend he did play Impact Tremors T2. Well, he now does not have any creatures till T3 and their value has dropped DRAMATICALLY as well. The thing with tokens decks is they can chunk block really well but, if they don't get an engine going early, they will fall behind to a 4/5 Tarmagoyf or some Splinter Twin nonsense.

April 27, 2015 3:04 p.m.

Quicksilver says... #17

Brimaz, King of Oreskos? He constantly provides small cats to synergise with Auriok Champion

April 30, 2015 6:51 a.m.

Lifa says... #18

To high cost for to little reward. What happens is I'll bring him out, and then by the time I get the chance to attack with him, he'll eat a removal spell. And I'd much rather play Spectral Procession turn 3 if able.

April 30, 2015 8:03 a.m.

electromancer says... #19

Neat Bitterblossom deck! I could be out of my depth here but it seems a little strange that you're playing 2 of 2 Sorins at the same cmc. Wouldn't it be better to pick 4 of the better Sorin to improve consistency or even switch one out for Elspeth (option for both in play)?

May 7, 2015 3:37 p.m.

Lifa says... #20

electromancer Both of them prove to be very helpful. If i'm behind then Lord of Innistrad can help me come back and if i'm ahead with him then i can get an emblem to make my guys stronger. The Solemn Visitor helps especially when i'm a head but can also be good if i'm behind by making a 2/2 flyer.

May 7, 2015 3:44 p.m.

xzzane says... #21

Electromancer actually makes a very good point. You would be better off taking out lord of innistrad for knight errant. Or seeing as this is a blossom list you could have 3 solemn visitor and use the leftover slot towards something like a utility land or Secure the Wastes.

May 7, 2015 3:47 p.m.

Lifa says... #22

xzzaneI'm still doing a lot of testing and this is by no means a final list so i'll test it out

May 7, 2015 3:55 p.m.

Nice take on tokens. Personally, I hate tokens decks as they are the bane of my existence. But, this seems well put together.

The 1-of Chalice of the Void seems like a wasted slot though. I would recommend dropping the 2x Duress and bumping the chalice to 3x or dropping Chalice of the Void completely and bringing in another Duress.

Sideboards are always a meta call, but my point is this: Running 1x your odds of drawing them are just soooooo small that it always feels like a wasted slot to me. 2x or not at all, unless you're running a tutor or your archetype has a high percentage of games that lead to top deck wars (see: 8-Rack, Blitzkreig). By turn 6 your odds go up by approximately 13% of drawing 1 of 2 [about 33% chance] compared to drawing 1 of 1 [a 20% chance] within a 60 card deck. This is especially important for a card that you want out as early as possible (Chalice of the Void). Your odds are significantly less for drawing 1 of 1 (13%), than 1 of 2 (25%) by turn 2 when you likely want to play it. And with odds that slim, counting on a "mulligan until I see it" is like staying at the casino when you're already ahead.

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May 11, 2015 8:02 a.m.

Lifa says... #24

The main reason for the singleton of Chalice is because Cherrios and Bloom Titan are a small percentage of the decks in my meta, so I'd never be actually playing it but more just laying it down when I get it. Duress won't help when they're playing 20+ artifacts a turn and drawing cards off them. And against bloom Titan it stops one of their win cons by stopping summonsers pact.

May 11, 2015 8:20 a.m.

If you say Duress won't help, then why is it 2x in the sideboard? Why not do multiples of Chalice? I guess I don't understand.

May 12, 2015 8:14 a.m.

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