Really cool! I would recommend Condescend since it allows you to both cycle through your deck and control the board.
October 21, 2015 5:45 a.m.
TheLivingCME says... #4
Delfador Condescend would be fantastic since it's a 2-in-1, but it could be a little too mana intensive. It surely needs testing anyway, thanks for the suggestion!
October 21, 2015 6:43 a.m.
Sorry but http://tappedout.net/mtg-questions/does-indestructible-prevent-sacrificing-effects/
October 31, 2015 10:53 a.m.
TheLivingCME says... #6
exaTAYK Yes, of course the Colossus is vulnerable to sacrifice effects and, even more, exile spells. That's why you should never combo out without having a counterspell ready.
Academy Ruins can sometimes help, since it can get again the Relic to combo a second time (the Colossus gets in the library again unless it was exiled), even if that is a desperate plan.
October 31, 2015 11:11 a.m.
Pheardemons says... #8
I've never seen a deck like this. Really like it. Question for you though have you considered any other type of artifact creature? I know Blightsteel Colossus is incredible and is an instant win if it attacks and isn't blocked, but the way modern is there are A LOT of removal spells. Maybe look into Inkwell Leviathan since it has shroud? Continuous attacking and islandwalk for those pesky control decks. One thing I've noticed about the deck is what do you do if you draw Blightsteel Colossus? I guess since you have See Beyond you can shuffle it back but has the deck truly been consistent enough to always be able to shuffle it if you draw it?
November 17, 2015 3:43 a.m.
TheLivingCME says... #9
Glad you like it! I've actually never drawn the Colossus, since I have a lot of deck manipulation to avoid that! :)
Yeah, the Leviathan is a good call! I'll try one copy in the sideboard, thanks!
November 17, 2015 9:49 a.m.
Pheardemons says... #10
Question for you. Have you ever run into the problem of an opponent exiling, or getting rid of Blightsteel Colossus? If so (or not) what is your alternate win condition? I only see the cards to help get Blightsteel Colossus out which is great to focus on your combo, but maybe a back up just in case?
November 18, 2015 1:23 p.m.
TheLivingCME says... #11
There's no plan B in the deck, just cards that protect the Colossus once he gets on the field.
Essentially, the only weaknesses it haves are sacrifice (i.e. Liliana of the Veil and few other things) and exile (i.e. Path to Exile): the first can be answered easily by saccing a Trinket Mage or flashing in a Mizzium Meddler, the second with Dispel or Mizzium Meddler again.
Besides, I run a lot of counters and Academy Ruins to recur Darksteel Relic and combo again in case the Colossus somewhat dies (I was even considering Buried Ruin).
Post side, I can bring in Echoing Truth for those pesky sideboard cards like Ghostly Prison and Grafdigger's Cage, and Displacement Wave helps too.
November 18, 2015 2:28 p.m.
For monocolor never go with basic lands, go for snow covered lands, so you can use the Snow-Covered Island+Scrying Sheets combo.
January 29, 2016 1:30 p.m.
TheLivingCME says... #13
Ixidron I don't think this deck really needs that, since it must trade cards early and then combo off to win. But thanks for the insight anyway!
January 29, 2016 5:27 p.m.
Pheardemons says... #14
Have you considered Void Snare? I know it's sorcery speed, but it can put back any card that can give you trouble, while adding in some extra Vapor Snags against aggressive decks.
Trinket Mage could help become a more consistent Darksteel Relic, also a chump blocker if needed. Instead of Blightsteel Colossus have you considered Inkwell Leviathan? Shroud is something that is seriously annoying in a removal heavy format. Also, you could sideboard (or possibly mainboard) Spreading Seas if you play against tokens with flyers or any other deck with flyers. Blightsteel Colossus just about wins if you can attack with him one time, but Path to Exile and Terminate could be serous problems, where Inkwell Leviathan is more of a threat.
January 29, 2016 6:08 p.m.
Pheardemons says... #15
Misread the sideboard and didn't see Inkwell Leviathan. Forget what I said about it. Would still recommend adding in Trinket Mage's to make sure you can get Darksteel Relic more consistently.
January 29, 2016 6:19 p.m.
TheLivingCME says... #16
Pheardemons Hey bro! I considered Void Snare while putting this together, but I found out that Boomerang is better in almost any case, and on top of that it can "Time Walk" an opponent by bouncing a land.
Spreading Seas is an interesting idea. What would you take off for it?
Well, Trinket Mage and Fabricate are almost the same, I chose the second just because I don't like Torpor Orb, but I think it's really personal preference. :) Oh, and then there's Tolaria West for additional tutoring.
Oh, about the fatty of choice: keep in mind that Blightsteel Colossus has indestructible, so it really can only get exiled. Inkwell Leviathan is really useful against slower decks (since it needs to attack 3 times), even better if they pack blue.
January 29, 2016 6:47 p.m.
Pheardemons says... #17
I was actually recommending Trinket Mage IN ADDITION too Fabricate. If you were to put in two Trinket Mages you have 6 cards of finding the artifact you need, plus the one Darksteel Relic, and your draw spells would seriously improve the consistency of the deck (if that is something that is needed). That was the reason for suggesting it. I would actually say replace it and do 4 Trinket Mages and 2 Fabricate because Trinket Mage is a body that can chump block or be an alternate (granted slow) win con, but like you said it is all about preference. I actually do not believe Torpor Orb is that big of a thing in sideboards anymore as the card has gone down from 7 or 8 dollars to 3, meaning that it is being played less and less. Granted for the few decks that do play it they are taking away cards from their deck and theme (most likely slowing themselves down) against one card of your deck that you have multiple outlets for anyway. I personally don't think it is that big of a deal, but if your deck is working fine without it more power to you.
I did know that Blightsteel Colossus had indestructible, and albeit in competitive modern magic (I'm assuming that is what this deck is for) there aren't but so many problems you have to face with it aside from Path to Exile, Vapor Snag, sacrifice outlets like Smallpox, Geth's Verdict, or Liliana of the Veil, or aggressive decks that stack creatures to block then Dismember him. While some of these are a little far fetched they are still viable, wheres almost none of those cards can stop Inkwell Leviathan (sacrifice outlets just stop any creature but with Trinket Mages it makes it harder :D), but that particular choice is down to preference as well. You still have it in the sideboard against certain decks that can take care of Blightsteel Colossus and you could just put in both against decks that have heavy sacrifice outlets.
Spreading Seas was really only a suggestion if Inkwell Leviathan was mainboard, because against the few decks that play flyers, looking at tokens with Lingering Souls and Bitterblossom, Restoration Angel has been seriously popping up, Celestial Colonnade is a fan favorite, ect, it can give you the edge to attack while also disrupting a lot of mana bases (cough cough tron). Also it replaces itself to allow you to draw a card. Since Inkwell Leviathan is sideboard you'll probably only bring it in against decks that don't have those cards to stop it, or just add it with Blightsteel Colossus since both have trample, therefore you may not need to create a slot for it. However, if you wanted to, I'd probably suggest any kind of combination of control spells that are in your sideboard: one Displacement Wave, Dispel, Negate, or Vapor Snag. Your deck is control enough so you probably won't miss or loose consistency by taking out 2 or 3 of those (if Spreading Seas is a consideration).
January 30, 2016 3:07 a.m.
TheLivingCME says... #18
Well bro, the thing is, Torpor Orb is a thing in my meta because of my other deck (the Black Devotion), so a lot of people started to bring it after I steamrolled them. :P And besides, since they would have to side out all the "destroy" removal, I think they would be able to put it in their 60.
Additionally, I prefer to use a sorcery, if I ever get my hands on a Snappy, or things like that.
As for running more copies of tutors, I don't think I really need more: 5 tutors + 15 draw/dig spells should be enough. I'd risk to make the deck less consistent.
I see your reasoning with Inkwell Leviathan, and I totally agree with every point. I think the nastier thing this deck can face is Liliana (because let's face it, every other thing is an instant, and we love instants :D), in fact I'm trying to find something to use against planeswalkers (Tron gives problems too).
Spreading Seas is intriguing me more and more. I'll try to take out Displacement Wave, and Declaration of Naught or Negate for it, maybe. :)
January 30, 2016 4:31 a.m.
Pheardemons says... #19
If Torpor Orb is in your meta by all means, like you said: preference.
Inkwell Leviathan in my opinion is more universally versatile against most decks. That is why I keep suggesting it. Don't mind me if you've made up your mind on which one you want to keep.
You could mainboard two Spreading Seas just because if Tron is a serious problem. Then two in the sideboard for more redundancy and it'll help with Inkwell Leviathan if you decide to sideboard it in. Extra card draw doesn't usually hurt, not to mention hurting mana bases is always good.
For planeswalkers blue can really only return it to your opponent's hand, meaning that they'll probably get the ability at least once. You already have Boomerang, but also Void Snare, Disperse, Repeal, Clockspinning, Cyclonic Rift, or Echoing Truth. The more universal of those would be Echoing Truth since it could seriously help you against token decks. Those would be my suggestions if planeswalkers give you that much of a problem.
January 30, 2016 5:03 a.m.
TheLivingCME says... #20
Well, the thing about Inkwell Leviathan is that it's slower than its infect counterpart. That's why I prefer to maindeck Blightsteel Colossus, even if the Leviathan has better abilities.
I don't know if Spreading Seas is a MD card, since there are also Ghost Quarter and Boomerang, but it's surely worth a try!
Eh, blue has a hard time hating planeswalkers ... I could use Echoing Truth though! Interesting idea!
January 30, 2016 5:35 a.m.
Pheardemons says... #21
Yea no problem. Like the deck idea though. Do you have it bought and play it at FNM?
January 30, 2016 6:09 a.m.
TheLivingCME says... #22
Pheardemons Unfortunately no, this is just something I tried online, and for now I'm investing in an upgrade on my Black Devotion deck (I'll tell you when I update it! :)).
But when I'm done, I'll surely buy this, it's a really enjoyable deck.
markooosrbija says... #1
oh i love the deck soo much. +1 :D
August 30, 2015 6:33 p.m.