Blinking Contest

Commander / EDH KCisSICKnasty

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Killkow says... #1

Yeah, Angel of Serenity's better if you're abusing the stack. Since my deck does that less, Luminate works better for me.

Haha, your playgroup sounds tedious. I hate games like that; It's like playing legacy xD

As for making a cut for Lavinia, Heliod's Pilgrim comes to mind. That's a personal preference since I don't love auras. Too fragile for my liking. Her real saving grace is fetching Reality Acid lol.

Otherwise, I'm not a fan of Ojutai's Command (Just doesn't seem potent enough for me), or most of your auras.I assume Spellskite is in your deck because your meta requires it in order to live? Otherwise it's subpar.

September 13, 2015 12:13 p.m.

Killkow says... #2

Another question: Why run Sage of Epityr over Augury Owl? He's cheaper, but Scry 3 is miles better than Rearrange 4. If you go inifinite without a proper outlet, but you have augury owl, you basically get to stack your deck.

And maybe Render Silent over Silence? It's color intensive, but so much better in my experience.

How do you feel about Remand in EDH? I always think it's really awkward, because if I'm countering it, I don't want to have to deal with it again. For a similar effect, I use Arcane Denial if I have to. Them getting two random cards is usually better than them getting something you don't want them to have back in this format in my opinion. Plus, you still get your draw, albeit a little slower.

September 13, 2015 12:22 p.m.

Mandalorian says... #3

Flicker the original

September 13, 2015 2:55 p.m.

Mandalorian says... #4

Restoration Angel wouldn't be to bad either

September 13, 2015 2:56 p.m.

almalong says... #5

have you consindered the Parallax Wave Combo? with either Opalescence or the new Starfield of Nyx getting infinite bounce triggers at instant speed whenever you so choose, toss in a Parallax Tide and things get really dumb, but that's more if you feel you want to go really mean

September 13, 2015 3:50 p.m.

KCisSICKnasty says... #6

@Killkow: Heliod's Pilgrim is great, but I can see what you're saying. I'll mill it over. As for Spellskite, you just cant really go wrong with it. It's a fantastic card. My auras are literally only there to give Brago unblockable with a little bit of card advantage. Suits me just fine. Ojutai's Command actually replaced Render Silent. Silence stays. I love that card. (: Helps out so much. Augury Owl is a maybe. I'll think it through. Remand suits me just fine. Doesn't really bug me that it goes back to their hand.

@Mandalorian: Not looking for extra sources of blink. Brago does just fine. (:

@almalong: I'm confused about your combo. However, it sounds like I'd need to make some serious changes to fit it in and I'm not entirely interested.

Thank you guys for the suggestions!

September 13, 2015 5:46 p.m.

KCisSICKnasty says... #7

Also, Killkow, the thing that makes Sage of Epityr good is that you get to look at all 4 and THEN choose, rather than one at a time with Scry. However, Scry is dank so, you may just see that change. :P

September 13, 2015 5:59 p.m.

almalong says... #8

well really it's just Opalescence and Parallax Wave opal turning the wave into a creature making it a legal target for it's own ability allowing it to exile 4 creatures with fun etb effects, then itself triggering the second half of Parallax Wave bringing the 4 creatures and Parallax Wave back if you don't want to fit it in that's fine, I just find the combo fun myself, Parallax Tide just exiles all your opponent's land by removing all of it's fade counters while it's 2nd ability is on the stack, and then removing it with Parallax Wave that combo is more cheeky then effective, but an option none the less

September 13, 2015 11:04 p.m.

Mandalorian says... #9

It says exile target creature. How can it target land? And won't they just come back when it leaves the battlefield?

September 13, 2015 11:15 p.m.

Killkow says... #10

SorinDankov, Augury Owl is scry 3. Scry 3 has you look at the top 3 cards of your library, then put any of them on top or bottom of your library in any order. This is much different than 3 instances of scry 1 ;)

September 14, 2015 12:05 a.m.

Flagellum says... #11

It should be mentioned that Parallax Tide can exile your own (tapped) lands and bring them back untapped with a Brago trigger. Not just exile your opponents lands, though you certainly could. It is only sacrificed on your upkeep if you can't remove any more counters, not whenever it has 0 counters. You can however, combo a Brago trigger and Sundial of the Infinite and stack your triggers in a way to permanently exile the lands exiled with Tide (same applies to Strionic Resonator). THAT of course, is very mean :p

September 14, 2015 12:49 a.m.

NarejED says... #12

It's been my experience that Brago plays best with a very low land count and a big ol' pile of mana rocks. Basalt Monolith, Grim Monolith, and Gilded Lotus are all musts, along with the regular EDH staples Chromatic Lantern and Coalition Relic. You might also consider Ring of Three Wishes and Skyship Weatherlight. Their costs are steep, but if you're running a correct mana base, they're easy enough to use, and exponentially speed up the winning process (one blink and 8 mana will have both Strionic Resonator and any win-on the spot effect in hand if you're running the Skyship.) You might also consider adding more stax elements. Since Brago untaps mostof your field every turn, making things like Stasis, Embargo, and Winter Orb entirely one-sided. Here's a sample list.


I Don't Mean to Brago, But... Playtest

Commander / EDH NarejED

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Recommended cuts:

Brainstorm. Awful in EDH except in combo decks that are shuffling their library nearly every turn. In this deck, it's all but worthless. Early game it has the same effect as a mulligan. Late game, it's dead.

Counterspell. There are better counters available, and the double blue stings.

Ojutai's Command. ...I... No. Just no.

Power Sink See above.

Battle Mastery Really only good if you're running Uril, the Mistalker as a commander. Not enough fatties to target.

Cloudform Decent for building an army of 2/2s while milling yourself, but it's incredibly slow and doesn't really contribute to the deck.

Oblivion Ring It's cute, but it doesn't have any lasting effect. Better to run a card that actually nets long-term advantage like Rishadan Footpad, or even Nevermaker. Typically it ends up being a purely response card. If you're running Brago well, it should be redundant, as your opponents will be securely locked down.

Detention Sphere see above.

Fiend Hunter See above.

September 14, 2015 4:11 a.m.

KCisSICKnasty says... #13

@NarejED: I'm fine without all those mana rocks. Want some actual things to do too. I'm also fine without more stax or tutors. They're a bit redundant and can always backfire. I'll consider cutting Brainstorm, but Counterspell has no reason to get the cut. Ojutai's Command is literally only here because I have the promo and until I get something like Stifle. Power Sink is fine also. Battle Mastery is for Brago. Want at least one source of Double Strike. Cloudform gives me free permanents, not an army of 2/2s. Contributes a win-con to the deck. (see description) Oblivion Ring, Detention Sphere, and Fiend Hunter can be abused and perma-exile. (see description)

@Killkow: You're right. I was responding to you while also being on the phone at the time. Didn't say what I meant correctly.

@almalong: That is indeed an interesting combo, but yeah, it would take some serious cutting to add those. O.o lol Think I'll pass on it. But thank you!

I appreciate all the time you guys are taking to suggest things to me! (: Please +1 if you like!

September 14, 2015 7:51 a.m.

Flagellum says... #14

If you're wanting lil weeny permanents try running Elspeth Tirel, Elspeth, Knight-Errant, or Elspeth, Sun's Champion. With the ability to use pw's twice a turn they can get out of hand. Geist-Honored Monk or Knight-Captain of Eos can be alternatives as well as targets for Venser. But if you're wanting to use Cloudform for tokens, you should consider Opposition, Stasis, and Winter Orb to get more use of them (also gives you something to do!). The reason why mana rocks are op with Brago is because you get to use them twice a turn which is what NarejED was getting at. Control decks are very redundant, that is why they piss everybody off lol.

September 14, 2015 1 p.m.

Flagellum says... #15

Sorry, meant to say that the tokens do wonders with Opposition. Stasis and Winter Orb do wonders with mana rocks (always having a way to pay the cost of Stasis and the ability to cast all other things with the other rocks).

September 14, 2015 2:02 p.m.

KCisSICKnasty says... #16

Cloudform doesn't make tokens though. It gives you free shit. lol Blink the face down and it turns face up. I'm not trying to run the Elspeths because I don't really want that much token generation. Field wipes are a religion in my playgroup and this deck gets by through mind games and politics. Flooding the field makes me a target.

As for mana rocks, I just don't need any more. What I have suits me just fine. (: I'm also not too keen on other stax type cards. Don't really want to run that many. Blow up the right thing and I'm hindering myself. lol

September 14, 2015 3:42 p.m.

KCisSICKnasty says... #17

The reason I keep using the word "redundant" is because it's something that I already have in the deck and don't want/need more of. Brago is a bastard and does enough messed up shit with what I have. Adding more broken shit would mean taking out what I have that's consistent.

Because of that, I don't want to run more mana rocks, stax, or sources of blink. I could fill those spots with things that I can actually use. Mana rocks aren't jack if I don't have things to play (my CMC is pretty decent and low anyway) and stax can be bad if I don't have Brago out which is why I run more forgiving ones. More blink sources would make my commander pointless. Would just run Roon and add green to my mix at that point.

The key is perfect balance. I'm a bastard, but I'll help out the guy to my left. Then, I'll stab him in the back when it's down to just us. :P If you target me, I'm just going to target you. So don't target me. xD

September 14, 2015 4:02 p.m.

You know what's funny with Brago? The two on-color Primordials. Luminate Primordial nets you a free exile when it ETBs (and with your insane combos the lifegain won't matter too much in the end) and Diluvian Primordial can let you snag an instant or sorcery out of someone's grave (and exile it whether it resolves or not, so they can't use their own graveyard recursion shenanigans).

September 23, 2015 9:14 a.m.

KCisSICKnasty says... #19

Luminate, I'm not entirely impressed by. Diluvian sounds fun though. I'll think about it. Thanks for the +1!

September 23, 2015 9:19 a.m.

ZombieCat says... #20

What are your thoughts on Aligned Hedron Network? Isn't there a way to permenently exile all creatures (With power 5 or greater) with this and Strionic Resonator? Still trying to figure this out with Brago..

September 23, 2015 4:12 p.m.

KCisSICKnasty says... #21

That card wouldn't work that way. It has 1 ability: enters and exiles until it leaves. It would need to have 2 abilities like Oblivion Ring: an ETB and LTB. That way, you can abuse the stack. I have it broken down in my description. (:

September 23, 2015 4:53 p.m.

KCisSICKnasty says... #22

Believe me though, if it DID work that way, I'd make space FOR SURE! x)

September 23, 2015 5:10 p.m.

ZombieCat says... #23

Lol nice. Thanks!

September 23, 2015 9:52 p.m.

KCisSICKnasty says... #24

Sure thing! (:

September 23, 2015 9:54 p.m.

seebz says... #25

Rasputin Dreamweaver can let you make a lot of mana without the feelsbad.jpg that comes with making infinite mana...plus he's Ra-Ra-Rasputin! also hes dropped from 50$ to 25 or so so he's a lot more affordable

September 24, 2015 6:42 p.m.

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