Grimgrinner says... #3
Paradise Weird is a decent deck, and It has potential for a T1 or T2 win, which i don't think traditional storm does, but it's far too reliant on specific opening hands. It's too much of a "gambling man" deck for me. I just don't think it's really competitive. Not a bad suggestion though.
June 12, 2014 6:19 p.m.
hipsterdontlie says... #4
Why are you running Grafdigger's Cage ? It shuts off Past in Flames , Pyromancer Ascension and you don't care about graveyard decks or Birthing Pod because you're just faster.
June 13, 2014 11:30 p.m.
hipsterdontlie says... #5
In previous comment, ignore the part that says Pyromancer Ascension .
June 13, 2014 11:30 p.m.
Grimgrinner says... #6
Hehe you're right about grafdigger's. I was thinking to hose Snapcaster Mage really but yeah it ends up just being worse for me. The sideboard was hastily thrown in without much thought. I've been playtesting the maindeck heavily tho.
June 14, 2014 3:32 p.m.
byepolarbear says... #7
So quick question about storm in general: Why is Empty the Warrens in the sideboard? I understand why you wouldn't want them AND Grapeshot main but why is it so consistently in the sideboard of storm decks? What does it kill that Grapeshot doesn't?
Also awesome to see a Modern storm deck that I wouldn't have to sell off my firstborn to afford =-D
June 17, 2014 3:05 p.m.
Grimgrinner says... #8
See above comment about the sideboard being hastily thrown in. I'm mostly focusing on maindeck right now.
June 17, 2014 8:34 p.m.
byepolarbear says... #9
That's fair but in general I've seen most storm decks run Empty the Warrens in the sideboard - somewhere between 2-4 copies inclusive. Was just wondering why it's so commonly used in side but not main =-)
June 17, 2014 10:17 p.m.
Grimgrinner says... #10
I haven't done much playtesting, but I'm guessing the reason is because of sideboarding. Grapeshot can be stopped with things like Runed Halo , Witchbane Orb , Surgical Extraction and many other cards to name a few. So if I had to guess, It would probably be able to win when grapeshot is being hated out.
June 18, 2014 1:25 a.m.
Hi,
I think Peer Through Depths is better for you than Sleight of Hand because you have vast amount of instants or sorceryes, and you can fetch for your Grapeshot and it goes well with Goblin Electromancer
Also you could add some Simian Spirit Guide for mana accelaration and combo fixing.
June 18, 2014 1:13 p.m.
Grimgrinner says... #12
Peer through depths is worth considering. I've never seen Simian Spirit Guide used in storm before. I suppose It's worth trying, but it doesn't count as a spell cast, it doesn't cantrip, It's effect doesn't double with Pyromancer Ascension , and I think it would really only help once in a while.
June 19, 2014 3:21 p.m.
Grimgrinner says... #13
I've been playtesting the 1 Mana Confluence i have sitting around, and it's working well. The only reason I'm using it over City of Brass is because I already had one, but my LGS has city of brass on sale for $3 atm. I might toss one of those in too.
June 19, 2014 3:24 p.m.
Simian Spirit Guide is fast mana and mana ramp as well and since you run Past in Flames you can play it to help to run the combo without enough lands. You could also lower the land amount with Simian Spirit Guide .
For further tuning, you could consider to exchange Peek instead of Thought Scour , because drawing effect is the same but you can prepare for any kind of distruption.
June 19, 2014 9:39 p.m.
Grimgrinner says... #16
Guttersnipe could indeed produce a quick kill in this deck, but 3 mana, a weak body, dies to all removal (so does goblin elctromancer, i know) and is overall just very slow. I could see it working in the Young Pyromancer storm variant though.
June 20, 2014 7:07 p.m.
byepolarbear the card Empty the Warrens is used against decks that have cards like Leyline of Sanctity so Storm can still win.
June 23, 2014 7:57 p.m.
The_Squirrel says... #19
Shivan Reef is a direct upgrade for you over City of Brass or Mana Confluence .
July 3, 2014 9:19 p.m.
Grimgrinner says... #20
Yeah but starcity was charging $12 for it last week. That's ridiculous. New 15 printings dropped the price a lot though. Might go for it now.
July 3, 2014 10:40 p.m.
freyhackbarth says... #21
I have two suggestions. -1 goblin electromancer for +1 pyromancer ascension. if you get the quest counters on pyromancer ascension then you pretty much win. now you have pretty much unlimited mana and two cards per spell to get another cantrip. pyromancer ascension is easily the most important card in this deck other than grapeshot. secondly, this is a minor thing but Quicken is definitely better than thought scour, because you can cast a lethal grapeshot at any time.
July 4, 2014 2:39 p.m.
Grimgrinner says... #22
Thought Scour interacts fantastically with Past in Flames . When past is up, if i'm setting up grapeshot, it essentially reads U- Draw 3. Way too good of an interaction to ignore.
Quicken Is just bad. It doesn't help advance my game plan at all.
July 4, 2014 2:46 p.m.
jjdiddy65 byepolarbear Honestly, Leyline of Sanctity isn't really a card you care about as Storm. It doesn't interact with your ability to start going off so you just flip your deck and find Echoing Truth and then Grapeshot them.
Where Empty the Warrens really holds its weight is that most of the sideboard hate against Storm is some way of shutting the graveyard down. Instead of needing to combo off completely, dumping a few rituals and cantrips into a Empty the Warrens puts a whole bunch of goblins in play without the need to use your graveyard. Most decks can't deal with 10-20 1/1 goblins and you kill them in 2-3 turns.
July 4, 2014 3 p.m.
freyhackbarth says... #24
you'll have enough cards in your graveyard (all you need is 9) for past in flames to get you a lethal grapeshot, plus thought scour often gets you lands and cards you don't care about. with 18 sorcery spells, I really do think quicken is the superior card.
July 4, 2014 3:27 p.m.
I've been looking at Grapeshot for my Guttersnipe deck. Based on the rulings that I've read though, copied spells aren't cast, they're created on the stack. So do they still work with storm spells? Sorry if this is the competitive noob in me coming out. +1
HANDofLYRA says... #1
Blistercoil Weird + Paradise Mantle all you need
June 12, 2014 5:58 p.m.